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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:40 PM
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Pope: Meltdown Shows Money Is "Nothing"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/world/main4504241.shtml

(CBS/ AP) Pope Benedict XVI says the global financial crisis shows the futility of money and ambition.

"He who builds only on visible and tangible things like success, career and money builds the house of his life on sand," the pontiff says.

"We are now seeing, in the collapse of major banks, that money vanishes, it is nothing," the pope adds.

Benedict says "the only solid reality is the word of God."

--------Well Benny, if that's the case, why not sell all the gold trimming in the Vatican and distribute the money to the poor?

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:41 PM
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1. ...says the guy who lives in a palace nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:10 PM
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28. The perfect response
Tell him to give away all those stolen riches.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:05 PM
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42. Cha ching...my very first thought.
So, to quote my friend, "Fuck the Pope."
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:09 PM
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48. Beat me to it.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:41 PM
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2. Time for a Vatican auction to help the poor! Oh wait...
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:41 PM
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3. It's like Steven Colbert said...
Of course the pope knows about poverty. He's surrounded by countless priceless paintings depicting it.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:42 PM
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4. Well, if it's nothing, the Catholic Church won't mind selling off all their assets
To give to the poor. Zimbabwe could really use them about now.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:42 PM
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5. exactly - this coming from one of the richest men in the world
As the leader of the catholic church that is. how about opening the gates of St peter's to the homeless of Rome and beyond? Asshole
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:43 PM
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6. So sayeth Pope Prada the 1st.
At least you can see and feel money, what the fuck has the Pope got to show for his life's work?
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:08 PM
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25. Red Prada pumps say it all.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:43 PM
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7. Easy for him to say. He lives a life of luxury.
n/t
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:44 PM
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8. Thanks a lot there Ratty, Death proves that Life is nothing, too.
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 01:45 PM by HereSince1628
Sorry, Ratty is an opportunistic ass, he has been since his Hitler Youth days.

Very scary that this guy leads the political views of tens and tens of millions of people.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:44 PM
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9. for me, it's never been about the money so much as the, you know, food and stuff
sustenance, clothing, shelter that money can buy. I guess in a certain context, all of these things are equally "nothing", but if you're going to look at it like that, the church had better lighten up on those restrictions on suicide.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:44 PM
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10. Well then God can pay my mortgage and support my retired parents..
What is God's account number?
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:45 PM
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11. "the only solid reality is the word of God."
And it can be yours for the low, low introductory price of $99.95 a month! Act now, coffers are standing by!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:45 PM
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12. Strong is the god delusion with you, my young patawan.
Strange you look in your funny hats and out-of-date sleepwear. Idiotic you sound confusing myth with reality.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:48 PM
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13. So, by that logic, the Pope is willing to let people who've lost their homes come live wit him.




Oh, wait. My bad. That's God's house, not the Pope's. :eyes:


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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:48 PM
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14. start preaching that to S(H)ank Paulson & the gang
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:49 PM
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15. The Catholic version of "Let them eat cake."
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:49 PM
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16. Thus spake one with Prada shoes & a "Gorgeous George" boy toy!1
*******QUOTE*******

http://disembedded.wordpress.com/2006/11/18/pope-benedict-issues-formal-vatican-decree-a-smile-is-not-a-sin/

Pope Benedict Issues Formal Vatican Decree: A Smile Is Not a Sin


November 18, 2006 — disembedded

.... Andrew Sullivan published this irreverent, biting criticism of the article (and the Pope) today on his Time Magazine blog, The Daily Dish:

“The NYT runs a very curious article today about Italian humor about the current Pope. None of the jokes cited seem to me to be very risque or even funny. The entire argument of the piece is undermined by lack of any real evidence that this pope is subject to any more ridicule than has historically been the case. Except of course for that photograph (see above, seated with Msgr. Georg Ganswein). It shows the actual source of the jokes circulating in the Vatican and elsewhere about this Prada-preferring, Gucci-wearing, high-drama German intellectual (Pope). The actual jokes - which the NYT won’t print - are about how good looking so many of the men are who surround Benedict, especially his personal assistant, Msgr. Georg Gänswein, shown holding the large phallic microphone in front of Benedict’s face. The Vatican gossip merchants call Georg “Gay-Org.” He is inseparable from Benedict. And he surely is easy on the eyes. There is no evidence that Benedict has ever broken his vows of chastity; but there is no evidence that he is heterosexual either. Hence the gossip; hence the jokes. When you’re a Pope who declares that even closeted, chaste gay men cannot be priests, it’s pushing your luck to clothe yourself in Prada, bedeck your Pope-mobile with luxurious Natuzzi Italian white leather, and surround yourself with assistants who look like they strayed from the pages of “L’Uomo Vogue.”

Butch it up, sister. Or the jokes will only get louder.”


http://www.bestweekever.tv/2006/12/22/crush-of-the-day-monsignor-georg-ganswein/#more-9199

CRUSH OF THE DAY: Monsignor Georg Gänswein


The NY Daily News brings to our attention rampant speculation in Italy that the new Pope Benedict, née Joseph Ratzinger (which we always read as though George Jetson’s boss were angry with him: “Raaaatzinger!”) is gay. The main reason? Namely, because Pope Benedict wears red Prada shoes. The rumor has been spreading since the day he took God’s office, when gay talk show host Fabio Canino kicked off his show “with a shot of pink smoke wafting from a chimney at the Vatican.” Apparently, the Pope’s boyfriend is his private secretary, Monsignor Georg Gänswein, the “handsome, blond, 50-year-old amateur ­pilot, ­tennis player and former ski instructor.”

Well. We had to know more. So we Google Image searched him and ohmahgawwwwww!!!! MONSIGNOR GEORG GANSWEIN IS DROP DEAD GORGE! No, all JK-ing aside, the guy is 2-DIE-4. As the Italians might say “Illay Fatchay ese muy puntamento ecstatico”, which actually doesn’t mean anything strangely enough. We gotta hand it to the Pope — well played, my good man! MERRY CHRISTMAS! If he wasn’t celebate and/or into guys, we’d have him stuff or holiday stocking every day of the week! And we mean that literally, because we love small toys.

But for serious, more shots of our new Numero Uno Monsignor after the jump… (with thanks to ONTD for calling our attention to this pressing matter.)




http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1554309,00.html

Thou shalt not drool


Georg Gänswein is the poster boy of Catholic conservatism. The Italian press compares him to George Clooney and Hugh Grant; his critics describe him as the 'Black Forest Adonis'. But how did he end up as the new Pope's right-hand man? And is he the right person for the job? By Luke Harding and Barbara McMahon

Tuesday August 23, 2005
The Guardian

.... Those who know him praise his efficiency and analytical ability. "He understands complicated issues within about 10 seconds and can give a clear and immediate answer," one Vatican source said. Gänswein is, though, more than just an impressive theologian. He is, like the man he serves, extremely conservative. "I think he is very dangerous," Daniel Deckers, the author of a biography of Germany's leading liberal cardinal, Karl Lehmann, said. "He's part of a small but very powerful group within the Catholic church. He will use his power to push Ratzinger in a certain direction." ....

With Gänswein as private secretary, there seems little hope that Benedict XVI will offer concessions on issues that alienate many from the Catholic church - the use of condoms, gay relationships or pre-marital sex. "You can forget it," one religious affairs writer said bluntly. ....

Gänswein's critics even accuse him of turning the Pope into a fashion victim. This summer, Ratzinger and his secretary went on holiday to the papal residence at Castel Gandolfo, near Rome, as well as to the Italian Alps at Valle D'Aosta. While both men were hiking in the hills, the Pope appeared in public wearing a Nike hat, designer Serengeti sunglasses and a Cartier watch. "This is Gänswein's style. It's his handwriting," one religious affairs writer said. "This is something I don't understand." ....

It is not surprising, then, that the Pope's private secretary is already beginning to inspire dread in liberal Catholic circles. In Germany, the Catholic church is divided more or less between two figures - the liberal-conservative Cardinal Lehmann, the head of the German archbishop's conference, and the ultra-conservative Cardinal Joachim Meisner, the Archbishop of Cologne. Both men were with the Pope last week. But it is no secret as to which Bishop the Vatican favours. "Gänswein is an opponent of Lehmann," one source in the German Catholic church said. "One of Ratzinger's great weaknesses is that his judgment of people isn't always sufficient. He has a small out-reach." ....

********UNQUOTE*******
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:55 PM
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17. It sure comes in handy down here, bub
As a wise man once said.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:56 PM
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18. spoken like a guy, whose whole business and life has been
dependent on people giving him money .....
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:06 PM
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24. I agree. Since the Pope says money is nothing, I guess the Vatican doesn't want donations anymore.
n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:00 PM
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19. easy to say that when sitting on a golden throne. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:01 PM
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20. the central lie of capitalism is that, indeed,
money is nothing

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:01 PM
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21. "...and the chicks for free"? nt
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:08 PM
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39. lol
:spray:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:03 PM
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22. Then give away all that money YOU control
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:04 PM
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23. Google "reinhardt" and "legatus". It's interesting.
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 02:06 PM by RandomKoolzip
Oh, and fuck you, Benny. If money is "nothing," then why does my landlord keep asking for it?
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:08 PM
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26. Fuck you, you old fuck. You're sitting on nearly 2000 years of stolen wealth.
And I say this as a Catholic.

Okay, a bit of a lapsed Catholic, I must confess.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:09 PM
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27. Shut up Pope - go smoke a bone will ya
Mind your business you old Nazi grump.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:11 PM
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29. This from a guy who lives in a palace filled with gold and jewels stolen from aboriginals.
I wish that Nazi would STFU. He's a joke.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:12 PM
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30. The pope ain't exactly living a life of poverty, is he?
n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:14 PM
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31. Now then,
what are we having for luncheon today?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:17 PM
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32. Well, I like the sentiment
It's just that it might have more oomph coming from a guy who doesn't wear Prada, you know?
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:17 PM
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33. "the only solid reality is the word of God." I guess he's referring to the bible
so I must be living in an alternate universe of reality and I'm only dreaming this.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:18 PM
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34. Bite me, Benny
Your financial advice is about as competent as your marriage counselling.

For a guy who never had to earn a paycheck or pay a bill, you sure are mouthy.

Shut up.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:19 PM
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35. HAH! This is from one of the greediest, richest, most blood-thirsty institutions in world history!
Give me a fucking break!
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:22 PM
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36. I WANT MY MTV!!
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:26 PM
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37. I'd hold those word true if they came from the Dalai Lama
but not from the Vatican which has more money than God.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 02:41 AM
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50. Whatever Tibetan for "amen" is.
:toast:

Hekate


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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:05 PM
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38. ............
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:08 PM
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40. ROFLMAO!
Incredible.

Really, Papa? Then why not empty your coffers to help the suffering?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:02 PM
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41. ...........
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:06 PM
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43. Orly? Ok then Pope, time to ditch your designer shoes and hey, why not downsize the Pope Palace?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:56 PM
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44. Benny has that German knack for saying the right thing at the absolute wrong time.
But for the record, I agree.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:02 PM
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45. There is truth in what he says, but when one talks the talk without
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 11:03 PM by notmyprez
walking the walk, people are likely to dismiss the words, and their truth along with them.
Edited to add: as shown by another poster's comment that he'd be more likely to believe those words if they came from the Dalai Lama (who does walk the walk).
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:04 PM
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46. Why are we supposed to care what he thinks?
Maybe Ratz will move out of the Vatican. A vow of poverty seems fitting for a guy with his outlook.

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:08 PM
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47. ...and lunch money doubly so.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:09 AM
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49. Well, in that case the Vatican should redistribute all its wealth to we poor folks of the world.
duh! :eyes:


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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 02:42 AM
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51. Easy for him to say. nt
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 02:48 AM
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52. When is the Vatican Bank issuing its quarterly report?
Honestly, the media. Why do they report such nonsense? Bet half of them don't even know there's a Vatican Bank.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 02:55 AM
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53. shows how out of touch that piece of shit is n/t
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 05:25 AM
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54. .................
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