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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:21 PM
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How many here think this "Who IS Barack Obama"? meme is subtlety racist?
McCain is sounding this one again..."I mean do we really KNOW Barack Obama"?!

I mean, please..The guy's written two books and has been campaigning for EIGHTEEN months!...If you don't "know" him now, when will you?

I've never heard this meme about ANY other candidate and, considering the above, it makes me wonder.

I think there's a racial subtext and it goes something like this: "WHO is this Black Man who wants to be president"?.."We (the white majority) don't really KNOW Black people"...and you can believe many of them really do NOT know any Black people, especially these small-town repukes

I believe it's a deliberate strategy -- A way of playing into the "alienation" and/or "distrust" many whites (especially small-towners) feel about African Americans.

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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:24 PM
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1. Subtlety racist? No - overtly racist. nm.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:47 PM
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20. Ditto.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 08:29 PM
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32. Double Ditto
McCain has nothing to stand on of any substance so he is using scare tactics. Racism is about the only thing he can tap into. No subtlety there. It is straight out..."hey did you know that Obama is BLACK?"
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:26 PM
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2. John McCain was imprisoned by people of another race...he gets a pass nt.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:27 PM
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3. I Disagree…
…about the "subtlely" part. There's nothing subtle about it. Neither McAint nor imPalem do "subtle".

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:28 PM
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4. Jon Stewart already answered this question: he is the man who wants to enslave the caucasian race.
:sarcasm:

But seriously it is a strategy designed to appeal to the "codeword racist" (which is pretty much all of 'em these days).

And it will. Sadly...it will.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:44 PM
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18. I wish he would. I could use that kind of structure in my life
I'm so disorganized.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:52 PM
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22. Now that you mention it, you might be right.
Although, I think the stint in the Bushie Slave Labor Camp sometime in the future will also have a similar "positive" effect. :rofl:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:28 PM
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5. It's short for: WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? (that uppity n-----) That's my first impression. nt
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:35 PM
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Ding, ding ding....nail meet hammer...nt
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:29 PM
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6. I absolutely do and I'm not one who generally reads into things like this. n/t
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:29 PM
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7. No.
I think it's them trying to gain some points due to Obama's well-known socialist views. Scare everyone, make em think there's more.... make em think Che Guevera is gonna pop up and demand your guns... all that.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:33 PM
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12. "Well-known socialist views"..?...Did you forget your sarcasm icon? n/t
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:35 PM
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14. He is well known in that sense
Socialism doesn't just mean communism. Obama is viewed as being fairly liberal, so they want to ride that rep and push it far to scare people.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:48 PM
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21. I do know that socialism isn't communism...but anyone even fairly
objective knows that his record -- and the platform he's running on -- is moderate.

I would bet that even here most would not call him "progressive" -- Kucinich, yes, Obama, no.

Of course it's relative. In "Right Wing World" they keep mentioning his "liberal" record, but these jerks think anyone left of George Bush is a "liberal" or maybe even a "socialist".
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:54 PM
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23. I certainly would agree on the kucinich thing
But, that's the rep Obama has... deserved or not.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:29 PM
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8. Yes, it's that and so much more ...
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:29 PM
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9. I think that's the subtext you see
"how well do we really know __________" has been a standard line in campaigns for a looooooooong time.

It's not racist on it's own but sure... some racists will be positive McCain is talking in secret code and that he's really one of them.
... but they're idiots ... they're going to find a racist subtext in everything anyways.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:41 PM
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16. It has?...I honestly have never heard it, and I've been around awhile
Boomer here...born in the fifties.

Many posters here think it's not "subtle" but I see it that way a: because they're not saying anything "racial" and b. I don't think the repukes believe they could be BLATANTLY racist (not the campaign team, anyway) because they'd be called on it.

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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:11 PM
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29. you should pay more attention to your local races
it seems I've heard candidates (generally incumbents) trying to sow doubt about how well opponents are known since I can remember.
:shrug:
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 12:09 AM
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34. okay...I guess I meant I've never heard it in a National Race...n/t
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:44 PM
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17. They're not asking that about Sarah Palin...
"Hockey mom" is all she needs to say. It all reeks with racism.

--IMM
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:11 PM
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28. Exactly. She's far more deserving of the question. nt
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:30 PM
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10. Nothing subtle about it...it IS RACIST!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:32 PM
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11. Appealing to a very ugly, visceral side of human nature
"He doesn't look like one of us...what is he doing here...what does he want from us"

:scared:

Yes. Racist.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:02 PM
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27. who said "he doesn't look like one of us" ?
that *does sound racist to me... but that's a LOT different from "he's not like us".

Look at John McCain.. with his 9 homes and 13 cars... he's NOT like us.
(us being the average American with a household income of ~ $47k/year)
There's nothing racist about that statement.

Obama is more like us... definitely seems to care more about us... but he's NOT like us either.
People with household incomes of $48k don't live in houses like his.
I don't even know anybody that lives in that big of a house.
He's a lawyer and his wife is a lawyer. Regardless of political success they're likely to be in at least the top 5% of average household income for the rest of their lives.
( > $200k/year )
Obama is currently in the top 1.5% of earners(this is 1 similarity Obama and McCain do share)

I'm not referring to race and it's not racist for me to say "he's not like us" about either candidate because race is what comes to somebody else's mind.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:35 PM
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13. Not subtle in the least. Pretty blatant.
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TACstrat Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:40 PM
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15. Southern Strategy
Once again, the Republicans are resorting to their "Southern Strategy".
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:46 PM
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19. It's just a short step to "What is Barack Obama"?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:54 PM
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24. Answer: POTUS.
:)
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:00 PM
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25. I see nothing subtle about this tactic
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:01 PM
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26. nothing subtle about it
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:27 PM
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30. I disagree with the 'subtle' characterization. It is overtly racial
I don't know that I'd go all the way to racist. (The KKK member is racist. The idiot who yells the n word in his car when a person of color cuts him off is not.) But it IS intended to play on people's racial biases.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:56 PM
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31. More the "secret Muslim" deal.....
....but I'm sure they'll take whatever way it hits.

It's also a flip-flop, considering they were just whining two months ago about all the attention he gets.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 08:33 PM
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33. Overtly Racist
If not knowing much about a candidate was a deciding issue WTF is with the GOP VP selection?
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