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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:45 PM
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Warning! Adulterated Chinese Foods Contains AMMELINE, Too, Chemical Linked to Eye Toxicity
The research on this appears to be very sketchy. Here is what I have found so far.

When the Chinese added plastics to their protein foods such as milk so that they could skimp on the food and make more money, they did not use pure melamine. They used a mixture of chemicals that was part melamine and part other plastics and chemicals. Melamine causes kidney disease including stones and bladder cancer, so it is what caused these corporate criminals to get caught. However, there are a bunch of other potentially toxic chemicals that can also cause pets and humans medical problems, some of which would not be immediately obvious.

My suspicions were raised, because my husband, who used to drink protein supplements daily and who had recurrent kidney stones at that time also had a strange eye condition. He developed vision change, went to the ophthalmologist, was told he had acute inflammation of both retinas. A few weeks later the inflammation was gone but he had developed micro aneurysms. Since he is diabetic, he had been receiving routine eye exams and had never had MAs before. His sugars had been well controlled. This was years ago, and he has never shown any sign of protein in his urine or diabetic kidney disease which usual develops at the same time that eye problems develop, which made me wonder if the eye problem was not the usual diabetic eye disease

Anyway, this is what I have learned about the junk they have been putting into Chinese milk.

This site has a WHO document:

http://hygimia69.blogspot.com/2008/09/melamine-and-cyanuric-acid-toxicity.html

Which lists the adulterants in pet food:

Analysis of the contaminated ingredient (gluten) responsible for this outbreak revealed the following triazine compounds: melamine 8.4%, cyanuric acid 5.3%, ammelide 2.3%, ammeline 1.7%, ureidomelamine and methylmelamine both <1% (Dobson et al 2008).


Now, I don't know that the factory owners in China added the same stuff to the human food that they added to the pet food, but the type of people who would add plastic to food in order to make to seem healthy are not likely to say to themselves "We need to use only the highest grade, purest melamine to adulterate our baby formula." No, they will use the same cheap industrial waste to cut the milk that they used to cut the pet food. Whatever the plastic factory is selling on the side, that is what they will buy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammeline

Ammeline is the first step in melamine hydrolysis.


The Encyclopedia of Clinical Toxicology

http://books.google.com/books?id=V7D020dl3_oC&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=melamine+retina&source=web&ots=S1E9Fz73y-&sig=893dq73Cm49wVFqheH-ya-KMaC4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result

Describes how ammeline caused blindness in chicks within 2-7 days when it was added to their meal to increase protein content. It has a special affinity for the retina. It caused edema, cellular degeneration and retinal detachment.

In Opthamalogic Toxicology

http://books.google.com/books?id=Xo8ZKwCm-2sC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=ammeline+eye+toxicity&source=web&ots=hq8BO4t8oW&sig=C8-6eHWVzI-sWAJ5RzQU1U4IL6A&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result

Ammeline is described as causing damage to the retinal pigment epithelium ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinal_pigment_epithelium ) which in turn causes degeneration or damage to photoreceptors (light receptors) of the eye.

Unfortunately, getting our government to study toxicity of some of these breakdown products of melamine may be difficult since U.S. industry has good reason to want to reassure the public that there is nothing to see here, move along. Here is a report from the manufacturing industry which denies any potential for human toxicity from ammelide or ammeline from 2001 called Urea-Scr Byproducts Probably No Health Threat .

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYH/is_/ai_79409490

Maybe they are correct. However, when someone puts the stuff in your food, that is a whole different matter and it needs to be studied. Is Ammeline/Ammelide causing damage to the eyes of millions of people in China and around the world which no one suspects yet, because babies can not describe their vision and no one has looked at their eyes? Are these chemicals a particular problem for diabetics or the elderly or for other people who are already at risk for retinal disease?

I think that someone needs to start studying the effect of Chinese milk doping on eyes as well as kidneys.

If anyone at DU knows of any research into the matter please post a link.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:48 PM
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1. Where are the Chinese getting these toxic substances from and why
...do they believe they can get away with adding this shit to the food supply? Who is advising the Chinese to use this stuff in food?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:57 PM
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3. This is just like the U.S. before we had regulation and an FDA. Chalk in milk, stuff like that.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:12 PM
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4. Correct, criminals adulterating food stuffs with cheap additives which are
...hidden from consumers so the profit margins can explode.

In the Chinese population of 1.3 billion people, who is going to question or even miss 100,000 people or even a million persons who die from such practices. But the criminals who knowingly do these sorts of deceptions and acts learn the process from somewhere. They don't just decide, "Hey, I'm going to kill off a million people and make money at it".

This is a money making plan which criminal minds calculate and contrive with the intended purpose of going undetected almost imperceptibly deceiving over years perhaps decades in a scheme that receives endorsements and legitimacy, all the while covered up by the perpetrators who know the harm and danger that is present.

These are intelligent people, professionals, who manipulate the testing processes and get politicians like John McCain to break down the regulatory system even eliminating it for the good of the consumers and get other powerful people and institutions to look the other way.
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Johnny Potpie Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:57 PM
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2. Who is advising China to use this?
If this food ever reaches inner city neighborhoods in America, I would say Bush and his minority hating cabal.:shrug:
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:53 PM
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6. Somebody has to advise them?
And by "them", I mean the scores of manufacturers and providers of milk and other protein-rich products.

All it took was some enterprising lab tech to say, around the wrong person, "Gee, you know, this test doesn't actually test for protein, it just tests for nitrogen in certain configurations. It would give high false results if somebody were to put certain chemicals in the substance being assayed." "Oh, like what?" "Oh, I don't know, melamine would work, for instance." "Is melamine tested for?" "Why would it be, who in their right mind would put it in food?"

Then that dog food manufacturer told a melamine supplier what he wanted it for, and a profitable market developed for odd batches of melamine.

Then it got into dog and cat food. And it was widely reported that melamine gave false positives. So every manufacturer of a food that was tested for its protein content suddenly knew how to cheat, and you can say that "CNN" and the "New York Times"--or the Chinese newspapers--did the rest of the advising.

There are other ways for the knowledge to get out that don't involve adding advising to the mix. A bribed lab tech who was about to be caught, and told a manufacturer how blindside the tests. The son of a manufacturer who was studying industrial chemistry and told his father--or perhaps entered the manufacturing business himself, and used his knowledge for evil.

Personally, they sound a lot more plausible than having * advise a bunch of Chinese manufacturers on how to kill American dogs and cats.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:19 PM
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5. I've heard that some of them contain Asinine as well.
Responsible for medical conditions such as, well...

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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:02 PM
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7. That's free markets working out...
No regulation proves to make real sense over and over. I keep wondering, do the people who reap profits from this never drink milk themselves? Or do they keep a list of all things contaminated thanks to them?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:49 PM
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8. List of suspect foods, from FDA website:
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/agroter8.html#scope

There's a chart providing potentially suspect foods. You might be amazed at how many common items are on here.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:01 PM
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9. I suggest caution with any milk powder/protein powder supplement since
these could come from the world market and the cheapest source would be China since it adulterates its protein. These would include bodybuilding supplements that contain whey protein and cassein protein. Go online and review what people have been posting for years. You will see that bodybuilders have been complaining about kidney stones which they have associated with increased protein in their diets. Many body builders use protein drinks or shakes since they are low fat. If these formulas have relied upon adulterated protein from China (because it is cheap) then these bodybuilders, like Chinese infants on formula, may have been getting a large daily dose of melamine which could be why they have had symptoms of stones.

At this point, I would not take anything that has a "protein supplement" in it, since you can not be sure where the manufacturer purchased the supplement. Not in our global economy. Eat whole foods. A soy bean is a soy bean. It may have been genetically modified but at least it isn't half plastic.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:30 PM
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10. Thanks for the link. Very useful. nt
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