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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:26 PM
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British priest: tattoo sodomy warnings on homosexuals
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/10/06/uk-priest-tattoo-sodomy-warnings-on-gays-365-gay-news/?icid=100214839x1211352046x1200694900

You really can't make this shit up...

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A Church of England priest is under fire after calling for gays to be forcibly tattooed with a sodomy warning. The Rev. Peter Mullen, who is chaplain to the London Stock Exchange, made that remark and other incendiary homophobic comments on his internet blog.

Mullen said the forced tattoos would be similar to warning placed on packages of cigarettes. “Let us make it obligatory for homosexuals to have their backsides tattooed with the slogan ‘Sodomy can seriously damage your health,’ their chins with ‘Fellatio kills,'" he wrote. In another posting, the 66-year old Mullen calls for gay pride parades--which he called “obscene”--to be outlawed. And in a third, he blasted another Church of England priest, the Rev. Martin Dudley, for blessing the civil partnership of two fellow clerics.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:27 PM
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1. OK, point of order...
The London stock exchange has a chaplain?!?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:53 PM
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15. that man needs a swastika
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:23 PM
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18. And where would you suggest tattooing that?
:evilgrin:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:21 PM
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23. Oh, I don't know ... maybe on his *wrist*.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:29 PM
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2. Yesterday's news. He's already apologized, is in disgrace.
They'll probably kick him out of the church, good thing too.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:32 PM
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12. Only because he went public with his views
One has to wonder just how widespread are these views? I know that there is still widespread homophobia within the confines of organized religion.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:22 PM
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17. Hope so...
The C of E, whatever its failings, does not have too many James Dobson wannabes in it; but he has been a disgusting exception for some time.

His earlier sermons are readily available on the 'Daily Reckoner' site, and include such gems as:


'Our troops put their lives on the line. They need to know that they have the support of their civilian countrymen who lie abed on Crispin’s Day. Sometimes, regrettably, this support seems to be lacking – especially in certain sections of the media and even, I am sorry to say, among the church hierarchy. ...t these people need to get into their heads is that peace is not the mere absence of fighting. Peace is the life of a free people living under just laws. War is a very bad thing, but it is not – as the pacifists believe – the worst thing. Worse is to be defeated and overcome, to have freedom and justice taken away, to be subjugated by barbarism.

Recently, Professor Marcello Pera, President of the Italian Senate asked a question:

“Is there a war on?” I answer, yes. In Afghanistan, Kashmir, Chechnya, Dagestan, Ossetia, the Philippines, Saudi Arabia, the Sudan, Bosnia, Kosovo, the Palestinian Territories, Egypt, Morocco and much of the Islamic and Arab world, large groups of fundamentalists, radicals, extremists – the Taleban, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Muslim Brothers, Islamic Jihad, the Islamic Armed Group and many more – have declared a holy war jihad on the West. This is not my imagination. It is a message they have proclaimed, written, communicated, preached and circulated in black and white. Why should we not take note of it?”

Well, the response to Marcello Pera’s question is that, when the bombardments in this war come heavily enough – in New York, in Madrid or in London – we do take note of it. But only for a while. And then, during the ensuing lull, we retire into our drowsy unconcern again. We love our consumerist lifestyle and our secularised permissiveness. We do not want to be reminded about the enemy at the gate and we do not even notice our decadence within.'

And:

The child is given no traditional moral guidance. In fact it is illegal for state schools to teach that Christianity is true. One is only allowed to teach about religions. And of course the perspective from which one teaches an overview of the various religions is bound to be secular. So we have atheism by government decree. In the matter of morality, the child is not taught anything definite: “Moses thought this and Jesus thought that, while Mahomet thought the other. What do you think, Sharon?” They say to a girl aged eleven. We should ask ourselves why it is now considered wrong to try to teach those things which 1000 years of Christian civilisation regarded as true. But it is barely admitted that there is such a thing as truth. Everybody must “make up their own mind.” Let’s go the whole hog and apply this method to the teaching of maths and science as well. Then see what happens.

Where the New Testament is mentioned at all, it is to promote Jesus as a proto-Che Guevara – the Church of England even used a picture of Che one year as its advert for Christmas. Or here comes Jesus as the social welfare officer, preacher of human rights, diversity and equal opportunities. What commandments are left? Thou shalt not smoke. Thou shalt not go foxhunting. Thou shalt not be fat. Thou shalt not deny global warming. And the first and great commandment is Wear A Condom. This sort of thing is not child-raising: it is child-abuse.

...You would think that Archbishops, theologians and parsons might prophesy against this shambles and try to stop the rot. Instead the church has merely lost all its confidence in its God-given authority and slavishly followed the secular decline these last forty years...

What chance for our children in a society that has wilfully demoralised and infantilised itself? Ten year ago, Digby Anderson and I produced a volume of essays on the sentimentalisation of society. We got death-threats. I wanted to follow this up with another book on the infantilisation of society. For one reason and another we didn’t get round to it and now I think I have missed the boat. Things are too far gone into institutional infantilisation. The culture we inhabit and promote is both babyish and narcissistic....

It is hard to see where any repudiation of our decayed and infantilised society might come from. If your house falls down, you can replace the materials and rebuild it. But socially, educationally, intellectually, morally and spiritually, we have thrown away all our materials. It is impossible to build an enduring cultural house on the shoddy wreck which is all that’s left.'


He is also carrying out a persistent running battle against the 'prince bigot' Richard Dawkins.


This sort of thing is not usual in England, and he is explicitly rebelling against the leaders of his Church on a lot of this. But I always find such things scary.

I also think it's pretty ironic that a clergyman in the City of London, at a time when it's become very obvious that greedy bankers have brought serious damage to the country, should choose gays as his target!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:29 PM
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3. Methinks he doth protest too much
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:31 PM
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9. A self-loather, perhaps?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:23 PM
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19. Probably not.
Just a right-wing bigot who has created his God in his own image.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:26 PM
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20. Well, there's plenty of those too, yes. Sadly, I know more than my fair share of them.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:30 PM
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4. Sick twisted demented fuck
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:30 PM
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5. Chaplain to the London *Stock Exchange*?!
They could sack him right this minute and cite the economic downturn. He wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Come to think of it, perhaps the FSM is visiting this downturn upon the LSE as punishment for Mullen's sins (bigotry, hatred, etc.)?

Jeepers. I thought William F. Buckley died earlier this year. :eyes:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:30 PM
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6. I'd rather tattoo "HYPOCRITE" on clergy like this
They're always the ones whose private lives will withstand the least scrutiny.

Want to bet he's got his favorite cruising spot? His type usually does.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:30 PM
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7. That will sure make it hard for the Catholic Priests to get folks to
throw money in the collection plate when they are sporting tats like that!


I propose that dumbass religious zealots that propose stupid shit like this be branded with a flying donkey on their forehead emblazoned with the words "Dumbass".
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Night_Nurse Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:32 PM
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11. I was thinking the same thing about the Catholic Priest pedophiles...
"Warning: Hazardous to young boys"
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:36 PM
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13. While I don't disagree with you, this nut is a Church of England priest
n/t
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:31 PM
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8. This is old news, by the way.
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 04:31 PM by seawolf
Dumbass priest. What does he think it is, the 60s? Everyone with three brain cells to rub together is aware of the need for safe sex now, no matter what you're doing.

Although I'm sure he'd like to have sex ed scrapped so people wouldn't understand about safe sex.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:31 PM
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10. Yep - that's what Jesus would do
:crazy:
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:38 PM
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14. Wouldn't pink triangles and ID numbers be easier?
Sounds like he's chaplain to the LSE and the local Nazi party.

I, myself, find gay pride parades rather fun. I kind of wonder how many he's actually seen, if any.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:57 PM
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16. Why is it when some people put on the
collar they think they are God.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:28 PM
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21. As if homosexuals are the only ones that engage in sodomy. n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:29 PM
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22. LOL
Good point.
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