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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:28 AM
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DU Help............viral e-mail blaming the Dems for meltdown
I have been working on my repub in-laws and almost had them this past week until my f-i-l mailed out this:

I really want to fight this, they are stupid and/or lazy enough to believe this spin.....Help!



Written by Jerry Teasley of Pine Mountain , GA., a former
> Banker
>
>
> Most of my friends know, I have tried to stop thinking, but
> I can't help it
> in the wake of all the recent economic news.
>
>
> My banking career started in 1970 and ended in 1993, but I
> still keep close
> ties to the industry. During my banking years I did learn
> one or two things
> along the way. The problem with our economy today is from
> a liberal
> thinking congress, senators, and presidents, as well as
> greed and
> dishonesty. When you put these together it spells disaster
> in any area of
> our life.
>
>
> Ask any banker (just walk in and ask one that has been
> there for 15 or 20
> years) and they will tell you these are the FACTS:
>
>
> * Under Jimmy Carter we received the Community Reinvestment
> act. This
> law says banks have to make loans in low income areas and
> it has forced many
> lending institutions to seek to make loans to people in
> areas that lenders
> would not normally go because of the risk and low property
> values. (Sub
> Prime Loans). This was in 1977. In 1980 president Carter
> and a Democratic
> controlled congress passed the Depository Institutions
> Deregulation and
> Monetary Control Act-- The law also removed the power of
> the Federal Reserve
> Board of Governors under the Glass-Steagall Act and
> Regulation to set the interest rates of
> savings accounts. A Sad fact is we are all still feeling
> the effects of his
> policies and decisions 30 years later.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_Q
>
>
> * Then in 1995, Bill Clinton made changes to the
> Community Reinvestment Act, that forced an increase in the
> number of loans
>
> to these people and the aggregate dollar amounts loaned.--
> Larger loans to
> people with less income in areas where the collateral value
> would go down
> instead of up. ( Clinton should have had his mind on the
> long range effects
> of this instead of Monica and a good cigar.) This was in
> response to
> pressure from 'community organizer.' Can you think
> of a former Community
> organizer running for president? Hint - he's a
> Democrat
>
>
> * In 1999 Mr. Clinton signed to repeal the Glass-Steagall
> act which
> had protected taxpayers since the Great Depression.
>
>
> * In 2003 President Bush tried to propose a change in
> regulatory
> control over Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and place both
> companies under the
> control of the Department of the Treasury, but was voted
> down by the liberal
> democrats led by Barney Frank. Remember the name Barney
> Frank, he is one of
> Obama's top two economic advisors the other is Jim
> Johnson who was the head of Freddie Mac and walked away with
> $24,000,000.
>
>
> * Now, Mr. Obama and his liberal cronies are spinning the
> facts so you will believe that all our financial problems
> are because of Bush's failed economic policy. However,
> OBAMA'S two MOST TRUSTED ECONOMIC ADVISERS TO HIS
> CAMPAIGN are the very people that were in control of Freddie
> Mac- Jim Johnson $24,000,000 and Fannie Mae - Franklin
> Raines $90,000,000 in 6 years).
>
> In addition, since 1989 their have been several politicians
> who have received campaign donations and kick backs from
> these two failed institutions. The #1 recipient is Senator
> Chris Dodd-D RI and the runner up is none other than Senator
> Barrack Obama who received the second largest amount of
> donations (over $500,000) which is phenomenal because he has
> only been in the Senate for 3 years.
>
>
> When Enron went belly up, we demanded Senate hearings and
> investigations.
> Why aren't the Democrats demanding the same with these
> companies?
>
> But, oh yeah, I forgot. It is Bush's fault! (Yeah,
> Right, Sure it is).
> Just ask a Banker.
>
>
> I am Jerry Teasley, banker, and I approved this email.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:29 AM
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1. Newsweek article refuting this
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:32 AM
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2. Hey Mojorabbit!
Thanks, your a peach!
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succubus.blues Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:32 AM
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3. bullshit
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:36 AM
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4. Oohh!! That's fuckin awesome!
You rock Devil Girl! Literally!!!! :yourock:
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succubus.blues Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:39 AM
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5. thanks!
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:41 AM
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6. Bush had six years with a Republican Congress to
do what ever the hell he wanted. If this was so vital to the American economy why didn't he
do something about it in all those years. Give me a break. Going all the way back to the Carter
Administration when there were three...count them three Republican Administrations that followed.

This guys a banker? It's the bankers that have walked away with the publics money. How stupid can people get.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:55 AM
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11. Emerald, I'm gonna steal your comment word for word!
This reply to my in-laws is gonna be awesome! Thanks!
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:32 PM
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16. You are very welcome...give them hell!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:46 AM
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7. Businessweek also calling this a lie.
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 11:50 AM by sinkingfeeling
http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinv.html

Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis


Also, ask them who it was that authored the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999.

The chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Texas Republican Phil Gramm, himself collected more than $1.5 million in cash from the three industries during the last five years: $496,610 from the insurance industry, $760,404 from the securities industry and $407,956 from banks.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:53 AM
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9. Thank you so much!
FACTS!!!! God I love DU!
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:07 PM
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13. I was about to recommend the exact same article. 60 Minutes also did
an excellent story on the subprime crisis and the role of derivatives. Link below is the text of the story along with a link to the video:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/05/60minutes/main4502454.shtml
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:47 AM
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8. Forward it to truthfightsback.com...
...at John Kerry's site.

johnkerry.com

truthfightsback.com
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:53 AM
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10. ALL subprime loans (which are what this liar seems to blame) are worth $1.3 trillion
And 75% of those are productive--that is, being paid.

the problem is not the subprime loans. The problem is the deregulation that allowed the entire financial sector to create derivatives from the subprime market and use them as collateral as well as to create other "assets" out of thin air to make corporate value unbelievable and make borrowing far too easy. The net effect to the markets was like a jock on steroids--they became artificially all pumped up. Meanwhile, on the inside, down deep where nobody looks, the engine of capitalism, middle class purchasing, was gone. It was all artifically created credit. No savings, fewer and fewer jobs to generate any cash flow to keep the credit engine running--like the jock's testicles shriveling up and their liver dying.

The markets are not worth nearly what everyone "believed" they were. But it was all okay for awhile because the fed kept lowering interest rates, which was like pumping just a little more juice into the now dying jock. The market true believers thought this pumped up artificial monstrosity was the way things were supposed to be.

Eventually the fed couldn't lower rates anymore without triggering worse inflation (they'd already phonied the definition of inflation beyond all recognition and they ran out of wiggle room). This was a tiny pinprick in the balloon and it has been deflating ever since. Now, it is flying crazily around the room making farting noises.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:59 AM
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12. "Now, it is flying crazily around the room making farting noises. "
HHHHAAAAAA!!


Now that's language my father-in-law can understand!!!


Thank You!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:14 PM
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14. Hope there's a video of the many many times McLiar said how pro-deregulation he was.
I remember seeing a series of clips of him talking about how opposed he was to any regulation.

And let us not forget Johnny's first national prominence as one of the Keating 5. They helped Keating prevent regulations of savings and loans which led to the major S&L bailout that cost our nation billions.

He didn't learn his lesson because he then teamed up with Phil Gramm who never saw a regulation he liked.

Phil Gramm, McLiar's Chief Economic Adviser until the beginning of the economic collapses when he was distanced from the campaign, was the biggest deregulator of them all, and wrote the "Enron loophole" I believe.

Phil Gramm told us we were a Nation of Whiners when we complained about our declining standard of living, while the rich got richer.

He said our sense of an economic recession coming were just psychological problems.
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Woodlands Democrat Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:15 PM
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15. Fox Noise and the GOP
Would also blame the rape victim for getting raped. This so reminds me of the Enron scandal.

How many times has the Bush/McCain admin in the last 12 months state "The economy is strong and sound" or something similar?
How many times did Ken Lay give the same line of B.S. to stock holders and employees of Enron?
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