Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Breaking: Berlusconi Says Leaders May Close World's Markets

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:57 AM
Original message
Breaking: Berlusconi Says Leaders May Close World's Markets

By Steve Scherer

Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said political leaders are discussing the idea of closing the world's financial markets while they ``rewrite the rules of international finance.''

``The idea of suspending the markets for the time it takes to rewrite the rules is being discussed,'' Berlusconi said today after a Cabinet meeting in Naples, Italy. A solution to the financial crisis ``can't just be for one country, or even just for Europe, but global.''

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell as much 8.1 percent in early trading and pared most of those losses after Berlusconi's remarks. The Dow was down 0.5 percent to 8540.52 at 10:10 in New York.

Group of Seven finance ministers and central bankers are meeting in Washington today, and will stay in town for the International Monetary Fund and World Bank meetings this weekend. European Union leaders may gather in Paris on Oct. 12, three days before a scheduled summit in Brussels, Berlusconi said today, while Group of Eight leaders may hold a meeting on the crisis ``in coming days,'' he said.

Berlusconi didn't give any details about what kind of rules leaders were looking to change, except to say that leaders are ``talking about a new Bretton Woods.''

The Bretton Woods Agreements were adopted to rebuild the international economic system after World War II in a hotel in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire. The aim of the agreements was to establish a monetary management system, initially by pegging currencies to gold. The IMF was set up later to help manage the international financial system.




http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aP5mpMUORBWM
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. I guess the "free market" is not so magic anymore. nt
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 12:01 PM by bemildred
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
2. hold on to your wallets, kids
A fascist leaking this info? Not good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
3. This does not sound good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. A New Breton Woods should send terror into the hearts of every Amerikan Subject.
It means, writ large, THE PARTY'S OVER.

It means the world is getting off the garbage dollar, and who could blame them, pinned to such a morally impoverished Third-World nation as Amerika with a broken-down infrastsructure, lazy and sickly peasantry, a voting system that has been deliberately designed to be corruptible and a Systemo Checks and Blanaces damaged probably beyond repair.

It mean Amerika instantly must start living within it's means, andthat mean calamity and catastrophe for every Amerikan Subject.

NOW we see why the Bushies have the Police State all ready to go.

And, as usual, someone will always be last to figure it out.

Who will it be? Still lots of candidates!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. You seem to be assuming there are non-garbage currencies out there
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. It's not that. It's that a shift away to ANY currency means THE PARTY'S OVER
We've only been able to go at it this long after becoming a debtor nation BECAUSE of Breton Woods and the dollar's universal use as reserve currency.

I am not think her of the global economy or anything else here. I am just focusing on what it means to us, The Amerikan Subject Populace.

ANY New Breton Woods that removes the dollar as reserve currency (one would have to assume a phase-out over time, a more rapid shift would probably be too shocking) means the same thing to us.

Doesn't really matter what currency is the new currency. It could be the Polish Zloty. To us, it's all the same. THE PARTY'S OVER.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
4. Oh that should calm fears.
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
5. Mr. Yellowcake would be the one to know
That creep probably has his fingers in everything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
6. Sorry if I sound like it's tin foil hat time,
but this sounds disasterous to most lower and middle income people, around the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:18 PM
Response to Original message
8. So, what if America doesn't have any gold?
I've heard for years that Ft Knox vaults are empty.

Berlusconi didn't give any details about what kind of rules leaders were looking to change, except to say that leaders are ``talking about a new Bretton Woods.''

The Bretton Woods Agreements were adopted to rebuild the international economic system after World War II in a hotel in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire. The aim of the agreements was to establish a monetary management system, initially by pegging currencies to gold. The IMF was set up later to help manage the international financial system.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
9. What a fucking MORON. (That's not something you say in public)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. Unless
your purpose is panic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
11. Berlusconi rigging the world markets to new rules?
What could possibly go wrong?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
12. Speaking as an Italian, I don't want a right wing crackpot like Berlusconi
changing the rules for anything. Berlusconi is a shock doctrine dude, he's exploiting the financial crisis to re-write the rules FOR CORPORATIONS.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
13. If the new Bretton Woods includes Italy under Berlusconi - we're in triple trouble.
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 12:26 PM by higher class
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. What's three times "a world of hurt"? What's 3 times infinity?
:nuke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:18 PM
Response to Original message
17. A shock doctrine opportunity to further exclude labor?
Since the Bretton Woods collapse in 1971 the labor vs capital battle has tilted away from labor and popularism or socialism toward free market dominance. Money and businesses can cross international borders for benefits but labor and the social structures cannot.

And with no gold or real assets to back up this casino style capitalism, monopoly money and junk bonds and mortgages were taken into the system to make financial bets on, and this mess unfolding is the result. Crisis time?

The choice now, being mainly decided by these same gamblers, is between heading toward social democracy or business socialism. Democracy at a crossroads.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 10:27 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC