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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:45 PM Original message |
Poll question: Do You Think Felons Should Be Allowed To Vote? |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Only after they've served their sentence |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. In my state incarcerated felons are allowed to vote, and I completely |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. I'm all for it too. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
95. The problem with that is a logistical one. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #95 |
113. let them vote absentee ballots from their home district... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
55. What about during probation? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. i support this. It's an incentive for felons to return as law abiding citizens... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Only after they've served their sentence and are free citizens again. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, once they've served their sentence... |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. after they get out |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Some ex-felons happen to be wonderful, intelligent, people. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Racists created this ban to prohibit black people from voting |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. never thought of it that way... |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. I find it awfully hard to believe that there have ever been enough bogus convictions to detectably |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Around 50% of inmates are african-american. |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Yes I keep forgetting no African American ever committed a crime. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. So basically... |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. No, I made a sarcastic comment to counter your own implication. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yeah, I know. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
107. Seems to me you're making a leap in logic on this one Bornaginhooligan. I'm not a |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Uh, no. You have two choices. White supremacy or admitting the system is racist. |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. You are attempting the old 'excluded middle' logical fallacy which ignores |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. After your post #73, you have no business complaining about others using fallacies. -nt |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
104. OK, so what's the fallacy? |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. You will be happier if you accept and don't try to find out what it is. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #106 |
126. Actually there IS a neglected possibility in readmoreoften's posts, and here's why you don't say it: |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #106 |
130. That has to be one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
91. That was hugely, gloriously stupid. Most blatant straw man EVER. -nt |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. You need to send in your sarcasmometer for calibration. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Oh, I got the lame sarcasm you used to deliver the straw man. -nt |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Well, I'm sure your Brazillion opinion is of the utmost moment up here. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #103 |
124. I chose this username to piss off jerks and assholes. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
52. I think so too. nt |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
89. That's Kind Of What I Was Thinking |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. When they have served their sentence the punishment should end |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. yes. after they've served their sentence. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. After they have served their sentence. |
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notheyrejustwrong (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. Once they've left office |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
94. good call |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
10. Hell yes |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
11. I agree with Maine and Vermont here |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. Only if they're not Republicans. |
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blue sky at night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
13. vote yes.......... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. We wouldn't have any politicians then |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
14. Once they've paid their debt to society, they've paid their debt to society. |
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norepubsin08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. Yes and after a period of 5 years of |
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norepubsin08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yes and after a period of 5 years of |
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norepubsin08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yes, and after a period (after release from incarcaration) and law |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
19. I don't see why not |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
20. They are here in Washington, once they've served their |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
21. I see some people said no but failed to give a reason, please respond. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Come on, I'm not looking to attack you |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
56. You know the reason. They think you're one of the Inferiors. -nt |
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norepubsin08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
22. I am an ex felon |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Sorry to hear about all that, especially the cancer. |
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garlicmilkshake (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
77. I believe it is possible to be guilty of a crime, yet not be a criminal. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
93. jesus god what a terrible story |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
26. We are allowed to vote. |
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endthewar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Depends on the state |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. 14 states (11 of them in the South...hmmm)... |
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TXDemGal (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
27. After they're out of the slammer. n/t |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
29. Of course, once the sentence served |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. After they serve their sentence, yes. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
32. Yes. There's no reason a conviction should void one's right to vote. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Especially these days, considering our criminal (in)justice system. |
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Brucie Kibbutz (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
33. I voted NO... |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. But un-convicted ones do? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. What else they don't deserve? Eating chocolate perhaps? -nt |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
34. If Rove, Cheney, Rummy And Bush Still Have The Right |
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OakCliffDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
36. Once a person has 'paid their debt to society' they should be allowed all rights of citizenship |
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flstci (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I don't think I can go there. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
114. yes, they should. |
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OakCliffDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 05:01 AM Response to Reply #48 |
127. If a former criminal has paid their debt to society, the should have all the rights of society |
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mittenlandgirl (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
37. Yes and even while they are serving time |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
38. No, you forfeit your rights when you enter the penal system. |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:12 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Which rights? |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Very few. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
66. let's take away their 4th, 5th, 14th amendment rights, too |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
123. 4th amendment rights are gone in prison. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
122. unalienable |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
41. Yes. Which they can in Oregon so neener, neener, neener! nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I believe VT and ME are the only two states which allow incarcerated felons to vote |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. In Oregon, you can vote from jail if convicted for felony as long as it was less than one year |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
46. After they paid their debt to society there is no reason to deny them voting rights n/t |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
47. Wisconsin - they can vote after they are "off paper" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
50. Once their sentences are served, they should have ALL civil rights restored |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
51. I don't see where anyone is served by denying them that right. |
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Greg K (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
53. They should be allowed to vote once they've served their sentences. nt |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
58. Allow them to vote, even inside prison. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
59. Yes, but not violent felons |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. why would a violent felon |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
60. If they're freed from prison and not on parole, they've paid their debt to society |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Yes, I agree. They should be off parole. n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
61. After serving all time and reparations, all rights should be restored. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. So the mentally handicapped that live in a group home |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. We're talking about persons who are convicted of felonies -- not mental illness. |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
96. What about people with Alzheimers? They can still vote. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
116. Having Alzheimers is not a felony -- let em vote. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
62. yes i do think they should. |
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Spirochete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
63. Yes |
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MgtPA (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
69. At the very least, allow felons convicted of victimless crimes vote (i.e., a few pot plants... |
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JimWis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
71. Not until they have served their time. Then - Yes. |
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eauclaireliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. Yes, so asshole pollsters in places like Florida |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
78. If this was Europe, then the Court of Human Rights has ruled on this. |
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Rancid Crabtree (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
81. slaves with weekends off already vote |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
82. It depends on the crime. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
83. Of course. I even think neocons should be able to vote! anything less than voting rights for ALL |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
84. Ex-felons: yes, if they are reinstated. Current Felons: definitely not!! n/t |
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Versailles (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
86. Still a citizen... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
88. I think they should be allowed to petition for a return of their |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. What's wrong with it being automatic? -nt |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
97. Of course they should. |
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
100. Not until they have done their time. |
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dudewheresmycountry (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
101. The constitution states, |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
102. Depends... will they be voting Dem or rethug? n/t |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
105. They have paid their debt to society... |
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Geronimo12 (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
108. The Constitution makes no exceptions against fellons |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
109. of course |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
110. As part of rehabilitation-granted to those who understand the honor and privilege. n/t |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
111. 180th yes vote. n/t |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
112. I don't understand why they lose their right to vote in the first place. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. when the law was enacted especially- there was a good enough chance the felon was black. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
117. Yes, even while incarcerated |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
118. Yes, even while incarcerated |
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LibbyTreehugger (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
119. After they paid their dues to society |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
120. Of course, it's an inalienable right... but... |
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The Inquisitive (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
121. Not while serving out their sentence |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
125. I think prisoners should be allowed to vote |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
128. Yes, with a but |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
129. Thank You For Your Responses Everyone |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
131. Yes. Everyone here in Maine can vote. It boggles my mind that is not true elsewhere. |
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