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Dead Elephant Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:41 AM
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Joe Scarborough must really be scared
These past couple of days he's been in full effect on attacking Obama and his "record".
I don't understand how people think MSNBC is in the tank for Obama.
They just need to turn on this 3 hour commercial of Republican talking points
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:43 AM
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1. I agree. Do as I did. Quit watching his show. Help get him off the air. He's the same old repug hack
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:44 AM
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2. You don't understand how it works.....
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 06:47 AM by Postman
"I don't understand how people think MSNBC is in the tank for Obama."

If there is just one or two voices (Olbermann, Maddow) speaking for the truth on any program, then that entire network is obviously a biased left-wing fringe radical entity...get it?...albeit one that is owned by a rightwing weapons manufacturer that outsources American jobs overseas..
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:46 AM
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4. Bingo! The facts have a liberal bias
Always have. :D
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:50 AM
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5. ...at least a strongly Anti-Neocon bias.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:45 AM
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3. There are a couple of hours in the evening where Obama gets good press
From Chris, Keith, and Rachel. The rest of MSNBC is definitely NOT "in the tank" for Obama.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:51 AM
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7. Finally from Tweety.
Tweety use to make me want to :puke:

What happened to finally change Tweety's attitude? At least we have 3 people on the good side now, I just don't know at what point Tweety changed and why. Happy about it though.
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:00 AM
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10. Tweety takes politics very seriously...
...and he detests anything that trivializes and deflects attention away from the "big issues." That's why he's pretty much turned against what McCain and Palin are doing these days. Tweety has hinted at this several times. He takes voting as a sacred duty, and gets offended when he sees people treating it otherwise.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:33 AM
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15. Well that makes me like tweety somewhat
kinda sorta, teeny bit.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:51 AM
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6. Agreed
And he keeps 'talking about' these 1342 Attack Ads Obama has shown in Northern VA the past three weeks . . .

Why doesn't he show them?
Why doesn't he let the public decide?
Why doesn't he show them?
What is his litmus test for an attack ad?
Why doesn't he show them?
What is this waxing poetic about 'buying' the election with these ads?
Why doesn't he show them?

We know DAMN well that he has given copius amounts of airtime to McCain's so-called attack ads. . .

Why doesn't he give FAIR air to Obama and Joes "attack ads"?


Hmmmm . . . me thinks there's a double standard at play. MSNBC ONLY gives free air time to McCain/Palin - it doesn't give the same free air to Obama and Joe.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:59 AM
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8. I stopped watching Morning Joe
I watch CNN in the morning now. I just like to hear the news and a little commentary provided by interviews with different government and policy experts. I don't need to be catered to ideologically, but enjoy a more objective approach. I don't need to turn to Fox to hear what the right wing thinks, I already know what they are going to say. I hear the most ridiculous claims being made on news television interviews. For example, there was a Republican being interviewed regarding the campaign and he makes the claim the Barack Obama wants to give illegal immigrants Social Security Benefits and Medicare at least five times and the news reporter lets it pass, he doesn't challenge those claims. Granted the claims were being made as part of answers that had nothing really to do with Barack Obama, the questions were about John McCain (why would a news reporter be asking a Republican about Barack Obama's campaign platform?).

So, I look it up and it seems there was a bill that did not get passed that basically stated that immigrants, once they are legal citizens may get credit for the Social Security taxes they made while working in this country before they became a citizen that Barack voted yea on. This was a small part of a larger bill on immigration reform. It was on Snopes. Don't these news channels have fact checkers? I'd like to see more on the spot challenges to specious claims -- on both sides. Otherwise people may walk away with false assumptions based on some wingnuts half-truths.

The young woman anchoring on CNN used to work for Fox.-- I think her name is Kiera Chetly. She is doing a good job.

Bill Bennett is actually claiming that Sarah Palin could be (is qualified) to be President and happier with the prospect of that (than with Obama) with a straight face. What a moron.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:03 AM
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11. Bill Bennett a.k.a. "The Bookie of Virtue" is heading up CNN's Political Ethics Section.
:crazy:
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:53 AM
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17. The host in question is Kiran Chetry
I remember her from the Fox morning show as well. I've caught her on CNN at times and she is definitely better where she is now than she ever was spouting non-stop right-wing talking points on FOX.

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I used to enjoy watching Morning Joe right until around the Democratic convention. There seemed to be more balance to the guests, Mika acutally served as counterpoint to Joe and was more agressive in getting her voice across and lightweight Willie was limited to the lighter stories and News you Can't Use.

Ever since Joe had his meltdown during the convention the show has become more strident and the balance in guests and viewpoints has been eliminated.

I don't know what caused a shift in the tone. If the producers are going for right wing mornings to balance out the left wing evenings it's not going to work since FOX already has that market cornered. I think whatever programming focus MJ had is gone and I'm not sure if they're going to find an anchor point anytime in the near future.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:00 AM
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9. Joe - all republican all the time
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:22 AM
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12. "I don't understand how people think MSNBC is in the tank for Obama."
There's a bunch of people who believe that Hitler had the right idea ...

So, if I can convince you that you have an invisible pixie on your shoulder telling you what to do, I can convince you of anything ... (I believe that's the quote by George Carlin)
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CruisePlanner Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:26 AM
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13. Like a bad radio show...
I can't say how many radio stations have lost me over the years to a bad "morning drive" shows. Generally liberal or progressive stations that suddenly change up morning drive to Imus in the Morning or some other drivel to which I will not force myself to suffer. 940 WINZ in Miami just did that... great station the rest of the day but.. Imus?? (and the station advertises as "progressive talk"). Another local station here in Florida likes to say it presents a liberal view but uses Fox for its breaking news feeds.

MSNBC is doing the same thing... using Joe as "lead in" for their daily programming has the same effect on me. I've started watching CNN again in the morning and then frankly, just as with radio, I stick with CNN until the evening with Tweety, Keith, and Rachel or I fore-go TV altogether and listen to online radio feeds. The whole concept of a very strong drive time radio show is to get people tuned in because market research shows that people don't channel surf all that much and stay with the station that starts their day. Maybe TV is different but I find it is much the same for me since I work from home and once that channel is "background" noise it stays there all day.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:27 AM
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14. Did you see the look on his face when Chuck Todd..
..gave John McCain's best-case-scenario?

He moved all of the swing states (well, "swing states" as defined by NBC) into McCain's column and showed that McCain's ceiling was 274EVs.

He then said that it was near-impossible for McCain to run the table on all of those states, and then moved Colorado and Florida into Obama's column.
(note: this was the first time I'd seen Obama's EV total on that magic map go over 264EVs)

Joe looked shell-shocked. It was sooooo awesome. :rofl:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:52 AM
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16. Interestingly enough, yesterday Rick Sanchez seemed almost gleeful to be reporting on
Todd Palin and Sarah Palin's relationship to the Alaska Independence Party. I was astonished to say the least.

That 11-minute segment should be all over the networks. It was excellent.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:06 AM
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18. Write MSNBC and tell them you have quit watching Morning RNC Talking Points
I have and I did.

Joe is a mouthpiece for the RNC. He's selling every minute he's on the air, trying to help the RNC advance its talking points.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:33 AM
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19. Well remember in prime MSNBC is all talk for Obama
With Keith and Rachel definately in our courts and Tweety pretty much in our courts. I guess MSNBC is giving the repukes the morning and us the nightime.
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