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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:28 AM
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A mentally disabled man was tied to a tree, savagely beaten over 2 days and dragged, said officials
By ABBY SIMONS and MARY LYNN SMITH, Star Tribune

What has happened to this country that people would do this......:cry: :cry: :cry:

Authorities say four men lured a 24-year-old mentally disabled man from his Lakeville home to a remote Dakota County area, where they tortured him for hours on two days last weekend. Criminal complaints say the torture included tying him to a tree, beating him and burning him with cigarette lighters. His mother said she was told he also was tied to a motorcycle and dragged for 200 feet.

The torture ended after he was knocked unconscious and left for dead on the second day.

The four were charged Tuesday in connection with the incidents and were being held in the Dakota County jail. One of those charged is employed by a Northfield organization that works with disabled adults. Authorities say the motive for the assault may involve a 16-year-old girl whom the disabled man had recently befriended.

As Justin Hamilton recovers at home under close medical monitoring, his mother, Carolyn Hamilton, said his body is entirely black and blue. He may lose sight in one eye and has broken ribs and possible kidney damage. But it's the emotional effects on her son, who has fetal alcohol syndrome, that may stay with him the rest of his life, she said.

Full article: http://www.startribune.com/local/south/30970669.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUs
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:31 AM
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1. There are times when the punishment should fit the crime.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:59 AM
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13. But there are times when no punishment....
could fit the crime.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:31 AM
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2. The scum in question...
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 07:35 AM by BushDespiser12
look like they are evil incarnate.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:34 AM
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3. Better link
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:36 AM
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4. better link
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 07:39 AM by lapfog_1
http://www.startribune.com/

screw it... just go to the home page
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:10 PM
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43. Bestest link ...
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:40 AM
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5. I hope they rot in jail n/t
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:42 AM
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6. This is just terrible.
:cry:
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:43 AM
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7. We have never lived in a world where this didn't happen.
Plenty has "happened" to this country, but human beings have always vilified and hated whoever is "the other" in their eyes.

I hope these guys rot.
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:22 PM
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44. This is just the most extreme example of how difficult it is to be "disabled" in our society today
This poor soul endured physical pain and anguish but I can guarantee you that many other disabled people suffer emotional anguish, ostracism, despair, misunderstanding, isolation, loneliness, and hurt right from practically the time that they are born. It's sad and outrageous. But, that is what we, in society, are.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:44 AM
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8. so sad
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stoge18 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:47 AM
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9. Life in prison.
See how tought these fucks are in a maximum security prison. Something tells me torture of the mentally challenged won't go over so well with the some of the other inmates.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:48 AM
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10. put them in gp with their 'story'...
see how tough they are with an opposite set of circumstances...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:56 AM
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11. I'm so glad he wasn't killed. What sort of animals could do that to another human being
I will never understand this sort of thing.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:59 AM
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12. This is horrible. I feel compelled to point something out here.

If this had happened in another state, particularly a Southern state, some wiseass would be sure to post, "well, what could you expect in (insert state name)?"

Bigots and psychopaths exist in EVERY state and EVERY country.

And these psychopaths, I hope, will receive a long sentence for such heartless cruelty.




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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:33 AM
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17. Bullshit..it usually does happen in a southern state
and almost always these are same fucks who would Republican...Republicans just have that kind of mentality..they used to not, most were decent but misguided people...now because of 8 years of Reagan 4 years of Bush I, 8 years of Bush II and 20 years of right wing hate radio, this is what Republicans have turned into!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:18 PM
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18. Bullshit....then why'd this happen in Minnesota? Not a Southern state.


It's people like you make Southerners defensive.



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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:03 PM
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25. I'm from Dixie...
...but left 22 years ago and never looked back. I agree with norepubsin08 that this shit is typical in the South. True, racists, bigots, and assholes can be found everywhere, but in the South they are more overt and actually take pride in being stupid, walking turds. That doesn't mean that all are like that and you have my sympathy for feeling defensive. However, I've met more of the Bubba sort than people like you.

That's why I hate (yes, hate) the South and am glad I don't have to suffer these idiots any longer.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:11 PM
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29. If you noticed I said usually
remember the KKK and lynchings? Greensboro 1979 shoot out, the Alabama church bombings?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:12 PM
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30. Read up on how YOUR neck of the woods treated Asian immigrants. nt
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:14 PM
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31. good point...but I'm from Europe
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:44 PM
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36. Let's remember WY and Matthew Shepeard.
I'll never forget the day that blasted out on the news.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:10 PM
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32. I blame it on the individual for the most part
I blame it on the individual for the most part-- not the region, not the voting record, not the political sobriquet-- the person.

On the other hand, as I live in TX (a deeply southern, deeply red state), how about you come over for dinner some time...? I'm having Fava beans and a nice Chianti (just to validate your opinions a bit better, you see).
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:20 PM
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33. You're compelled to make a very divisive point by not being divisive?
WTH? Sometimes silence is best.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:40 AM
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14. They should never be able to step outside of a prison the rest of their lives
humans suck, no other creature on this planet could do something so vile.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:50 AM
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15. Not even 1 toe! Not ever!
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Captain Sensible Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:49 PM
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24. Sorry. All animals esp the big cats regularly kill others cubs.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:23 PM
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34.  For entertainment and kicks...?
"All animals esp the big cats regularly kill others cubs."

For entertainment and kicks whilst dragging it out in an interminable fashion to better suit their desires? Or do the animals and big cats simply do it out of instinct and/or survival needs?

My money's on the latter-- but if you know of a den of lions which do it for fun I'd love to know about it....


One man's sensibility is another man's absurdity...
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:06 PM
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42. yeah, but do they torture/kill just for the fun of it? Just to watch/laugh at another's suffering?
maybe they do, we can't get into animal's minds, but if it is the case, humans with their more evolved rationing and thinking should know better.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:59 AM
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16. Holy shit!! That's just a few miles from where I live!!
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 09:00 AM by mnmoderatedem
I better keep a closer eye on my neighbors.

Side point: the stupid woman who posed the "Obama is an Arab" question to McCain a while back is also from Lakeville.

Not sure what the hell is going on in Lakeville Minnesota these days....

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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:41 PM
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23. that lady was probably related to one of these horrible creatures that were arrested
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 12:43 PM by carlyhippy
Carly
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:44 PM
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37. She's from Shakopee. n/t
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:19 PM
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19. People like that...
don't need to be out here with the rest of us. :mad: They need to go away for a very long time.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:22 PM
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20. What the FUCK is wrong with people???!!!
This just blows my mind and breaks my heart! :cry:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:39 PM
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35. We are very cruel animals
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:27 PM
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21. "God damn America!"
:-(
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:25 PM
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45. This shit happens everywhere
even Switzerland........

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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:39 PM
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22. This is America's own Dark Night Of The Scarecrow.
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:08 PM
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26. Sometimes you just wanna get off this ride nt
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:09 PM
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27. There are times when my resolute anti-death penalty stance
is tried. This is one of those times.
One of these predators is someone who actually worked with disabled adults--more fruits of privatizing these types of homes.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:23 PM
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28. Lakeville, MN?! That's where McLoser got booed off the stage by his own supporters!
because he doesn't hate Obama enough...

http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/30747614.html

Struggling to contain an emotional fire his own campaign kindled, Republican presidential nominee John McCain spent much of a town hall meeting in Lakeville on Friday trying to cool his supporters' growing hostility toward Democrat Barack Obama....

McCain found himself in the odd and uncomfortable position of defending an opponent who is pulling away in many polls at the end of a week when he and running mate Sarah Palin stepped up their own attacks against Obama -- often inspiring outbursts at raucous rallies, complete with cries of "terrorist" and "off with his head."

The Minnesota gathering lacked that kind of harshness, but sustained booing greeted many of McCain's attempts to discourage the crowd's fear and anger. Of the 21 questions posed to McCain during 45 minutes of give-and-take, one-third challenged him to take on Obama more aggressively, with a few making incendiary comments.

Late in the town hall meeting, Gayle Quinnell of Shakopee called Obama "an Arab." Taken aback, McCain shook his head and, taking the microphone from her, said, "No, ma'am. He's a decent family man, citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues."


Is this place some kind of epicenter of hate? Was it built on an Indian burial ground or something? :shrug:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:55 PM
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38. Here's another shining example of character:
http://www.ktvu.com/news/17667108/detail.html

"Both victims, ages 19 and 21, testified at the hearing that began this week. John Doe 1 said he was punched and kicked by some of the defendants along a trail at the Fulton Road skate park early the morning of April 26. The defendants also said they would kill him, John Doe 1 said.

"John Doe 2 said Stanley forced him to go to an ATM machine and withdraw $260. When they returned to the skate park, the defendants forced the two victims to perform a sex act on each other, he said."
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:36 PM
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39. This was a hate crime
Plain, simple and cruel.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:41 PM
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40. when the pResident says torture is okay what the hell can we expect
from these fucking assholes?

very sad story.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:57 PM
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41. Evil.
May they spend much of their lives in prison.
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