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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:40 PM
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Dramatic Video: Friendly Fire Incident and Coverup in Iraq
Exclusive from Salon.com

Oct. 14, 2008 | Helmet-cam footage from Ramadi, Iraq

On the afternoon of Dec. 4, 2006, Pfc. Albert Nelson was wounded and Pfc. Roger Suarez-Gonzalez was killed during an exchange of fire in "building #2" close to the south bank of the Euphrates River in Ramadi, Anbar province, Iraq. This video, which was recorded from the point of view of the men in building #2 that day, appears to show an American tank firing on them, followed by an attempt to assign official blame for the death of Suarez and the injuries to Nelson to Iraqi insurgents firing mortars. Nelson later died of his wounds.

The video comes from a camera mounted on the helmet of Sgt. 1st Class Jack Robison, who donned it to record a firefight in progress. The footage begins with Robison in a courtyard attached to building #2. The original video was 52 minutes and 38 seconds long; Salon has abridged it to show the alleged friendly fire incident and its aftermath, including exchanges between Robison and a commanding officer as to whether or not a U.S. tank fired on the building, and the comments of other soldiers in the house who say they saw the tank fire at their position. The video shows Pfc. Nelson receiving medical attention for his left leg, which was severed in the blast. At the request of Nelson's family, we have blurred his image throughout. It includes graphic violence and profanity. The video can be viewed in its entirety below, albeit with Nelson's image obscured.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/14/friendlyfirevideo/index.html?source=video&aim=/news/feature">12 Minute Edited Video Footage Here

Warning: Contains graphic violence and profanity.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/14/friendlyfirevideo/index.html?source=video">Much more here.


Mark Benjamin's friendly fire investigation contains 1) http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/14/friendly_fire/index.html">the main article, 2) http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/14/friendlyfirevideo/index.html">video documentation and 3) http://www.salon.com/news/primary_sources/2008/10/14/friendly_fire/index.html">the Army's own report on the killing of Nelson and Suarez.

The most striking thing to me about this video is the matter-of-fact way in which everyone seems to accept that an alternative story must be used. It comes across as very much standard operating procedure - a mindset that comes straight from the top.


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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:02 PM
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1. About 20 sec. before the end "Stay off that topic. Look, I agree with you. But...."
"...stay off that topic. It ain't gonna do any good."

And...

"Until I hear different, it was a 122mm mortar. I don't believe it, but until I hear different..."

PB
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:37 PM
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2. It sounds like the "topic" the sarge wants to stay off of...
is the fact that the iraqi soldiers operating with this unit are not helping secure the area, because they are "afraid of the Americans" at this point...sounds like there is some discussion about it, or the difficulty of getting them to act, but I am pretty sure it is the behavior of the Iraqi soldiers that is the topic it "ain't gonna' do any good" to discuss at their immediate moment.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:52 PM
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3. I just re-listened. And I disagree. But it is difficult to tell.
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 02:53 PM by Truth2Tell
Plenty of the rest is very clearly about blaming the attack on a mortar though.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:00 PM
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4. I disagree- While the topic of the Iraqis does come up it seems to end with....
...the comment (paraphrasing) "They're kinda scared of Americans right now." A little parenthetical in a bigger conversation.

PB
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:24 PM
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5. I disagree - somebody says "shit, anybody would"
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 04:24 PM by bananas
I adjusted the audio equalizer to hear the voices clearer,
one guy says the Iraqi soldiers are "kind of scared of scared of Americans right now",
somebody else says "shit, anybody would",
then the helmet-cam guy says to stay off that topic,
so the topic to stay off is the friendly fire and cover-up.

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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 05:58 PM
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6. Isn't the discussion that ends in staying off "that topic"...
taking place between the sargeant (the helmet-cam guy) and the soldier who talks about the Iraqi soldiers operating with them not acting because of their being "kind of scared of the Americans right now?"

The video certainly records the decision to assign blame on a "122mm (enemy) mortar round" but it also seems to suggest, to me anyway, that the subject of whether or not the Iraqi soldiers can be mobilized at that moment isn't the most important thing to be considered, under the circumstances.

Both are certainly possible.

I'll try listening to it again, and make the same adjustments for noise that you did.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:45 PM
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7. It seems like he's talking to 2 or more people
The camera turns to the right, and the Sargent says "Hey Singleton, are the Iraqi guys doing anything about security?".
Singleton says "Nope", the camera swivels way over to the left, and the Sargent says in a louder voice to someone across the room, "Hey uh can you get some of the Iraqi guys to help with security?"
He swivels his head back and forth during the conversation as if he's talking to different people.

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