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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:52 PM
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Do you think Bush wishes he had never been president now?
I think even *he* wishes Gore had won at this point.


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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:53 PM
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1. Yes
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:55 PM
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2. I hope so. He'll carry his shame and failure with him for the rest of his life.
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 12:56 PM by gateley
Edit to add, if Gore had won, I honestly don't think we would be in the mess we're in now. And we wouldn't be in Iraq.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:55 PM
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4. At least he has the rest of his life
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 12:56 PM by galaxy21
Which is more than can be said for those troopes and Iraqi civilians.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:57 PM
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9. Yes. nt
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:57 PM
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10. No
Because he thinks every thing he did was right. He has no shame.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:59 PM
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12. I hope I'm right and you're wrong. I want him to suffer. At the very least
I'm sure he's humiliated. And I bet his father is, too.


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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:28 PM
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35. he accomplished his goals , he has done well for his "base"
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:03 PM
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17. Unfortunately, Gore did win, but Bush's buddies on the Supreme Court stopped him from taking office.
We will never get over it, Scalia.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:10 PM
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22. Agree. nt
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:05 PM
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19. Gore did win. It's not Gore's fault that the Supreme Court halted the
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 01:07 PM by coalition_unwilling
counting of votes.

There is a good likelihood that a Gore administration might have been able to prevent 9/11. Since Richard Clarke was a holdover from the Clinton administration, presumably his warnings in the summer of 9/11 would have been listened to far more seriously and acted upon.

Edited for typo.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:12 PM
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24. Yes, I understand that. I'm a DUer.
And I agree with you about 9/11, but if it HAD occurred, we wouldn't be in Iraq had Gore been at the helm.


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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:20 PM
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31. Iraq was a PNAC imperialist wet dream going back to the early 90s.
9/11 gave the PNACers a suitable pretext for an agenda they already wanted to enact.

Since Gore was not a PNACer and actually sane, and since there was absolutely no connection between Iraq and 9/11 (other than Iraq's proximity geographically to Saudi Arabia), I agree that 9/11 would not have led a Gore administration to invade and occupy Iraq.

I actually think Gore might not even have invaded\occupied Afghanistan or made the 'deal with the devil' with the Northern Alliance that BFEE did had 9/11 occurred on his watch. I am not sure what Gore would have done but it would have probably been far more clever and strategically effective than the incompetence demonstrated by the BFEE.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:30 PM
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36. Wouldn't it be wonderful if right now, we weren't saying 'IF Gore had been
in office?"

Our world has changed so drastically in the past eight years. I can barely remember what it was like in the Clinton years not to be afraid of our government, actually believing that our rights and privacy were being protected, not horrified at our relationships with the rest of the world... I can't believe what BFEE has turned this country into in such a short period of time. America as we knew it, just doesn't exist any more -- in so many ways and on so many levels.


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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:51 PM
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42. Gore did not win
I don't think we'll ever be able to know exactly who got the most votes. Too many variables, too many counties, too many different counting standards, too many absentee ballots, the networks calling the state while the panhandle was still open, etc.

Elections are not made to be so precise as to handle a difference of 500 votes out of 6 million. Keep in mind that we are talking about fewer than 1/100 of 1% of the total votes cast.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:16 PM
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27. Do you think that will bother him?
These folks who just wanted to have a beer with the guy surely couldn't foretell the mess he would make, could they? I mean, EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS venture he touched turned to shit in the private sector. Not ONE success.
And THAT is who they chose to run this country.
Why is anyone surprised? I'm not.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:55 PM
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3. He may be starting to get a clue about it.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:56 PM
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5. No. He achieved his goals...
His pals made a shitload of money, and that is the only reason he wanted to be President.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:12 PM
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23. Steal a ot of money and do better than dad did. Don't forget oedipus
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:56 PM
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6. Yes I do. Failure to the nth degree. And he suspects it.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:56 PM
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7. I don't know, but I'm sure Poppy and Jeb sure wish he hadn't. (nt)
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:56 PM
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8. No. I think he only wishes he had been allowed to shut us up.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:59 PM
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11. No. He probably thinks he's doing a heckuva job
n/t
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:02 PM
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14. His dad must be pretty pissed at him
GHWB....not a terrific president by any means, but a respected one (left office with a 56% approval rating.)


Now he'll go down in history as the chimp's dad. His legacy is ruined.
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:01 PM
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13. Not one little bit
It's a matter of personality. Those who are driven to seek power (Republican or Democrat) have huge egos. It's almost a necessary trait. And those kind of people have a tendency not to look back in regret. They have a certain way of pushing through to the next thing on their list. And they tend to believe they are right, no matter what. So introspection and regret from Bush? No way.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:03 PM
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18. I think you just have to look at his behaviour in the last year or so
He's not strutting around like he's John Wayne anymore. The swagger is gone. His demeanor has really changed. I think he knows he's going down as the worst president in history.
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:15 PM
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26. nope
worst president in history? That's a term so clouded by our current perspective that it really doesn't mean anything. In reality, how many of the presidents do most people have any idea of? We know the famous ones in the beginning, and the last ones. But the multitude of presidents from the 1820's to the 1900's, I don't think most people know anything about.

I just don't see Bush as having regret. I see him as someone who believes he had a purpose and who was right about most things. I don't see him as reflecting on what might have been.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:06 PM
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20. This describes Jeb Bush succinctly. n/t
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:17 PM
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39. He certainly does not regret being president
when he's convinced he was chosen by God to lead this country. The fact that he's led us into utter ruin is of no matter to Junior. In his small mind, he has fulfilled his divine destiny and will be rewarded in heaven, if not on earth in his lifetime.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:02 PM
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15. No. I think he wants to QUIT NOW, like he always just walks away
from the disasters he creates, and it's pissing him off that he has to stick around for a few more months, but sorry he was ever Prez? NO! He got to play with his army men, play with all that money!!!!, and get treated like a king for almost EIGHT YEARS!
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:03 PM
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16. I believe you are giving him credit
for real introspection which I think he lacks.
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OHDEM Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:08 PM
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21. I agree.
Bush is the type that never believes anything is his fault and has been surrounded his whole life by a cheering section.

Besides, it's always the fault of BILL CLINTON. LOL
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:15 PM
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25. He is just sorry he couldn't figure out how to drop the SS money into the stock market
That would have propped it up long enough for him to make it out of office.
IMHO, this is an INTENDED action of his presidency.
There is NO way no matter what that Democrats will be able to do ANYTHING for the people (healthcare, jobs, etc).
They will be able to do nothing EXCEPT try to make the disaster a little less painful. You cannot run a company without money. You cannot run a country either.:(
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:17 PM
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28. Not as much as we do
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:18 PM
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29. I think he's bored and he'd like to walk away now.
I doubt he has any regrets. In his mind everything happens to him. He's never responsible, he's the victim.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:19 PM
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30. Bush thinks he did a great job. Very Churchillian.
In his mind, any fault lies with the unwashed masses for not appreciating the great work he has done for freedom, democracy and the American Way of Life.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:21 PM
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32. No. The pathological narcissist is incapable of 'regret' ... and only desires attention.
His sole drive is being the center of attention and provoking reaction.
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:23 PM
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33. Nah, but he's bored with it now.
He's ready to let someone else clean up his mess, like always.
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Sukie Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:28 PM
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34. Bush has aged too much over the last eight years to
not be bothered by how his presidency has gone. Cheney on the other hand hardly looks a day older, despite being older.........Cheney has no soul. I think bush is getting his punishment for stealing the election.......both times.
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sunwyn Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:35 PM
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37. No....now that he and all his buddies have made their money
he's ready to go though
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:35 PM
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38. HELL NO!! In his feeble mind he is the greatest pRez ever. And the sheeple that
surround him wouldn't dare tell him otherwise.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:19 PM
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40. No
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 02:21 PM
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41. i think Bush just liked all the stuff with the presidential seal, plus they told him
he only had to make canned speeches in front of friendlies and he'd have the summers off.
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