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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:22 PM
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Anyone else notice McCane referred to the Kennedy assasination as an intervention?
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 10:34 PM by hootinholler
While the negative ads were being discussed. I'm gonna have to try and find it, but I can't digitize it.

Edit: It's at 26 mins on the CNN recording. I remembered it as intercession, but he said intervention in a most Freudian way, or was it a dogwhistle?

-Hoot

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Icelander Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:25 PM
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1. Its creepy.
Its subliminal shit , but they do it for a reason...Bastards.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:25 PM
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2. WTF was that all about? I was appalled. n/t
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:27 PM
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3. I missed that. I would be interested in hearing what you find though
I'll have to listen closer to the replays.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:27 PM
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4. guess Sarah is tired of rubbing off on hubs partner.....
seems McMean caught the cooties!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:27 PM
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5. i did and it felt creepy and planned
not sure what he hoped to gain with it...but ick.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:28 PM
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6. in a way it made sense
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 10:28 PM by kansasblue
He was talking about town hall debates. He said Barry Goldwater and Kennedy had agreed to have them but they never did.

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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:29 PM
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7. I didn't hear it, but did he mean
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 10:30 PM by EC
that Kennedy's death was an answered prayer? Wasn't the quote Palin used in her acceptance speech by a guy that said someone should assasinate Bobbie Kennedy?
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thunderchicken Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:29 PM
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8. yeah
they were talking about town hall debates and how "Jack Kennedy and Barry Goldwater had agreed to a series of town hall meeting for the 1964 race" and he referred to the assasination as an intercession in Dallas. Maybe he just misspoke and meant assasination and came out with intercession
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:39 PM
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14. Found it, OP updated...
He said intervention.

My concern is that this is some dog whistle green light as in the only way I can win is if there's an intervention.

-Hoot
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:33 PM
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9. I heard it as "intervention"
That's how it was closed-captioned too.

That's still a strange choice of wording.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:35 PM
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10. You are correct, I edited the OP.
The time mark is 26 mins.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if I remembered it right.

-Hoot
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:39 PM
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13. What could he possibly have meant by that comment? n/t
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:36 PM
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11. I guess that's one way of looking at it.
Sheesh. He is CREEPY.

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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:37 PM
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12. It was...weird
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:42 PM
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15. There was so much that he said...
that was bizarre. Do they put out transcripts of these things?
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:44 PM
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16. Can someone please give the exact quote?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:03 PM
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20. Sure as good as I can get it...
McCane is speaking about Town Hall meetings in minute 26...

"The Way Barry Goldwater and Jack Kennedy agreed to do before the intervention" (..either of or, or..) "tragedy at Dallas"

-Hoot
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:31 PM
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24. Thank you. It makes no sense. Not surprising though. McCain will throw in crap wherever he can.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:45 PM
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17. I like when Senator McCain referred to Senator Obama as "Senator Government."
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:49 PM
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19. And McCain wants to make health care
"avoidable." That was one of my favorites.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:15 PM
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22. And McCain tried the "$3 million overhead projector" ploy again,
apparently not knowing it's been thoroughly debunked. What a dope.

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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:47 PM
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18. I sure as hell did.
It was no mistake. His campaign continues to plant the idea with right-wing nutjobs. How much lower can McCain sink?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:11 PM
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21. The nominal point itself makes no sense...
JFK and Goldwater didn't have joint town halls. There's no way of knowing they would have, just because they had tentatively agreed it was a good idea in 1963, i.e. before any primaries or caucuses had even been held.

Yes, I think he was getting that in there so that he could mention the assassination. He came with a set of rhetorical bombs to set off, and they were all duds, like:

"Repudiate Lewis! Repudiate, I say!!!"

"I just want to talk about (psyops plant) Joe the Plumber!!!"

"Oh, the babees! The poor, autistic, aborted babies, breathing their last!"

"Oh, such terrible things they've said about me! Booo hooo!!!"
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:17 PM
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23. Yes, I heard it. Thought it was a malaprop but now wonder if it was a dog whistle.
Especially in light of the other rabid comments fomented at the Palin/McCain events.

:scared:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:15 AM
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25. That was weird on a lot of levels. Like Poppy laughing about the assassination at Ford's funeral.

B-B-B-Barry Goldwater? No Nixon?



SCHIEFFER: Senator Obama, your campaign has used words like "erratic," "out of touch," "lie," "angry," "losing his bearings" to describe Senator McCain.

Senator McCain, your commercials have included words like "disrespectful," "dangerous," "dishonorable," "he lied." Your running mate said he "palled around with terrorists."

Are each of you tonight willing to sit at this table and say to each other's face what your campaigns and the people in your campaigns have said about each other?

And, Senator McCain, you're first.

MCCAIN: Well, this has been a tough campaign. It's been a very tough campaign. And I know from my experience in many campaigns that, if Senator Obama had asked -- responded to my urgent request to sit down, and do town hall meetings, and come before the American people, we could have done at least 10 of them by now.

When Senator Obama was first asked, he said, "Any place, any time," the way Barry Goldwater and Jack Kennedy agreed to do, before the intervention of the tragedy at Dallas. So I think the tone of this campaign could have been very different.

And the fact is, it's gotten pretty tough. And I regret some of the negative aspects of both campaigns. But the fact is that it has taken many turns which I think are unacceptable.

One of them happened just the other day, when a man I admire and respect -- I've written about him -- Congressman John Lewis, an American hero, made allegations that Sarah Palin and I were somehow associated with the worst chapter in American history, segregation, deaths of children in church bombings, George Wallace. That, to me, was so hurtful.

And, Senator Obama, you didn't repudiate those remarks. Every time there's been an out-of-bounds remark made by a Republican, no matter where they are, I have repudiated them. I hope that Senator Obama will repudiate those remarks that were made by Congressman John Lewis, very unfair and totally inappropriate.

So I want to tell you, we will run a truthful campaign. This is a tough campaign. And it's a matter of fact that Senator Obama has spent more money on negative ads than any political campaign in history. And I can prove it. And, Senator Obama, when he said -- and he signed a piece of paper that said he would take public financing for his campaign if I did -- that was back when he was a long-shot candidate -- you didn't keep your word.

And when you looked into the camera in a debate with Senator Clinton and said, "I will sit down and negotiate with John McCain about public financing before I make a decision," you didn't tell the American people the truth because you didn't.

And that's -- that's -- that's an unfortunate part. Now we have the highest spending by Senator Obama's campaign than any time since Watergate.

SCHIEFFER: Time's up. All right.



What do you suppose he was thinking?

Maybe Johnny McWetstart remembered Cheney was just in the hospital.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:39 AM
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26. I'm concerned it's some sort of dog whistle.
Although which sort I don't know.

-Hoot
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:45 AM
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27. That was crazy, but I thought McCain seemed like
he was taking medication or something. My favorite part was when Obama said he would tell us who he associates with and mentioned Dick Lugar the Republican who had endorsed him that very day. I sure that statement scrambled McCain a bit more that he already was!
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