Trooper to Teacher

Military people should be able to move right from military into teaching without any certification or testing. Is that what McCain said and has anyone mentioned this bizarre proposal?

they are qualified to teach.. And why would we relax the standards on the teachers?

That didn't work very well, either. :dunce:

I do, however, believe that military service should count for something in ANY public employment. The last I heard, it does for civil service positions.

FELL out of my chair laughing at this last night! I'm surprised not more people are talking about this.

Joking aside - he was CLEARLY making that shit up as he went! He was!

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Someone ought to follow up on that. It sounds like he wants to deregulate the teaching profession now. No diploma, no certificate, no problem!

YOU are a genius sir!

Someone get the republicans on the phone quick!

as a substitute teacher. The kids loved him. *snort* No, I am not making this up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi4s8cjLFI

This is what I thought of when McCain said to let soldiers teach without qualifications.

Will anybody from MSM call him on this? Joe Teacher anybody?

a new sport?

(Too bad I fell asleep-- that's batshit crazy)

Living in Alaska makes you an expert on Russia, if we shovel our federal treasury into the pockets of the most well-off Americans, everyone will get wealthier, cutting taxes for those same overrich people increases tax revenues, and if you don't regulate business, it will somehow overcome greed and avarice and work for the benefit of everyone. This is just one more canard for the True Believers to sign on to.

watch party I attended said that several years ago she had a group of former soldiers in the program and said they were by far the worst students she'd ever had. Couldn't write a coherent sentence, let alone a paragraph. Now, I realize that not all soldiers or former soldiers are functionally illiterate, but anyone and everyone needs to pass minimum achievement levels to be able to be certified to teach.

Plus, it certainly felt as if McCain was just pulling that idea out of his rear end, rather than having thought it over very carefully.

My landlord and I both looked at each other and said, at the same time, "What the fuck did he just say?"

THen I pictured my mom's girlfriend, a teacher, picking her jaw off the floor.


I guess it's a good way to ensure, well, nevermind...

to ensure ALL troops have are given the opportunity to take 2-3 college classes per year.
I managed to schedule ONE college course between deployments in the 5 years I served in the Infantry.

This is laughable. If you have followed the recent story about the car Dealer driver who just missed out on this year's Nobel in chemistry, mine is not that different. A Science BA, PhD in top tier schools, postdoc with National Academy mentors, Research faculty positions in top ten med schools, but for various reasons, hard luck with grants and desire to work with kids, I interned and taught 3 yrs of HS in one state. Although certified through classes and on the job training in tough schools in one state, it did not transfer to another state where we moved for my wife's job. I'm now teaching as an adjunct in colleges while I have retaken pedigogy classes in a local college required for certification (secondary science) and a masters in Ed. Eligible for an Intern certificate, I have applied for occasional long term sub positions with no success as they are still obligated to hire fully certified individuals if they are available. So with a PhD, years of teaching experience ranging from middle school to medical school, qualified in a "high needs" area like science, near perfect praxis II scores in multiple disciplines, it still is no walkover to get a FT teaching position.

So if I understand McCain correctly, he suggests that we need school reform (a broken record for the last 50 yrs) by hiring teachers who are a crap shoot since they have not gone through any training or qualification process. Listening to him at the debate last night, I figured I was just hearing the great "maverick", Sean Hannity speaking.

from the Marine Corps to teaching... a thousand years ago.

From Vietnam....three years to finish college, some counseling, and the ability to compartmentalize different life experiences certainly helped.

Some of the military experience helped, much of it did not.

I had a retired major serve as substitute for me one time, and I insisted he never do it again. Inflexible, not student centered, rank conscious... the worst of the military moved to the school setting. I'll bet he was a shit officer, too.

Fun story: A friend of mine.. Viet combat vet who transitioned, was asked to give a Veterans' Day speech at an assembly. He said only "You can honor this veteran by not becoming one." and walked off the stage.

himself to be qualified to teach since he is ex military? The answer might have been interesting or at least entertaining.