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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:37 AM
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Nebraska's safe haven law strikes again -- Mom drove from MI to drop off 13 y/o
this shit is getting out of hand...i understand the spirit and intent behind the law, but now lamebrain parents are just going to use it to ditch their badassed teenagers...


OMAHA, Neb. – A Michigan mother drove roughly 12 hours to Omaha so she could abandon her 13-year-old son at a hospital under the state's unique safe-haven law, Nebraska officials said yesterday.

The boy from the Detroit area is the second teenager from outside Nebraska and 18th child overall abandoned in the state since the law took effect in July.
“I certainly recognize and can commiserate and empathize with families across our state and across the country who are obviously struggling with parenting issues, but this is not the appropriate way of dealing with them, whether you're in Nebraska or whether you're in another state,” said Todd Landry, who heads the state's Department of Health and Human Services' division of children and family services.

There was no sign that the boy was in immediate danger before he was abandoned early yesterday, but an investigation into the boy's situation was still continuing, Landry said.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081014/news_1n14safe.html
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:40 AM
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1. A return to the past
When you could send your "incorrigible" children or the older ones you couldn't afford anymore to the orphanage or the poor boys' farm. I had two professors in college to whom that happened back in the 1930s. Both were sociology professors, and one is an expert on juvenile delinquency.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:52 AM
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3. Father Flannigan's Boy's Town was in Nebraska
http://www.boystown.org/home.asp

Boys Town can help struggling families in Nebraska and across the country find alternative resources for their children or families before resorting to dropping off children at a Safe Haven. The Boys Town National Hotline (1.800.448.3000) offers free help and is available to families - parents, adolescents, kids and teens - with trained counselors and connections to key community resources to keep families intact.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:43 AM
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2. Wow, is Nebraska going to be sorry--I'm sure the legislature is already planning
on changing the law.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:58 AM
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4. If the parents don't want the children, I'm not sure something like this isn't the best option.
I'm not sure the boy would be best off being raised by a mother so desperate to get rid of him she's willing to drive twelve hours to do so.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:06 PM
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5. i see it as the opposite
granted, i do NOT know the whole story in that family, but if the mother put THAT much effort into getting rid of her son with no financial or emotional strings attached, she could have at least put that much effort into trying to keep him, or at least finding a home with family or close friends or somewhere he would find familiar and be loved...just imo
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:21 PM
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6. "Could have", yes. "Would have?"
"Could" isn't relevant. What matters is what *would* have happened if the mother hadn't had that option, and it probably wouldn't have involved her investing that much effort in keeping him.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:01 PM
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8. Then you put up the children for adoption when they are infants
There should be a point where being a parent is a responsibility you can't just shuck off when hard times hit. There is help out there for people in financial trouble particularly when they have minors.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:11 PM
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10. thanks...that was the point i was trying to make
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:17 PM
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11. I understand people fall on troubles but when you've decided to have a family
You have to suck it up and be strong sometimes, there are few things that damage a child more than abandonment from a parent and I even think that in some cases it may be worse than staying with a bad (not dangerous) parent.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:21 PM
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12. Which do you care more about - holding parents responsible, or protecting children?

The state cannot force parents to raise their children - laws are excellent at preventing people doing bad things, but they can't make people do good things well.

So if you try to say "this child is your responsibility; you have no choice but to raise it", what you are actually saying is "you have a choice between raising it and it not being raised by anyone". You can jail a few parents who neglect their children especially badly if it makes you feel better, pour encourage les autres, but it won't achieve much to help children.

Once a parent has reached the point where they don't want a child, the best thing for that child is probably often to be given away to someone who does. And that's by far the most important thing, even if it is letting bad parents off lightly.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:26 PM
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13. I'm a little too passionate about this subject to be unbiased about it I think
So I'm going to step away and agree to disagree on a few points Donald. I am more concerned about a child's protection but what is best for any child is a very nuanced thing IMO.
Peace
S
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:51 PM
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7. You either do your homework or I am taking you to Nebraska
...:shrug:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:05 PM
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9. Can you imagine what that trip is like?
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