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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:05 AM Original message |
College Education Should Be Free! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have only one question about free college education, which I think would be fantastic |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Taxpayer essentially. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Also REMEMBER Many colleges get Research money and then don't get a share of what they invent. |
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fishbulb703 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I go to U of Florida, if anything, we need to charge more tuition. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I think we need to see some spreadsheets before making any real calls. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Having worked for a few universities, they DON'T invest surplus. |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. The GI bill... |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. a trivial percentage of the "defense" budget, maybe? |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes it should be free. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. As a former college professor, I would say, "Yes, free college, BUT |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Absolutely |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Excellent post. Glad you brought up the entrance exams and vocational tracks. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Thank you for putting into words what I was thinking |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Excellent point. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. If everyone goes to college, then college becomes meaningless |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
66. And continue to nurture kids' innate sense of curiousity about the world |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. Well... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. agree |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
43. Agreed. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. I agree. Entrance standards need to be jacked higher, and trade schools need more development. |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. As a soon to be college professor... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
65. Makes sense. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. No thanks |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. We are importing scientist from countries where college education is free |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I don't know about India, but when I was in China in 1990 |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I guess that 1% are the best qualify not the ones who can afford it n/t |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Thats my impression too |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I think we're confusing college with vocational training |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. I rest my case |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
6. Abuse would kill it |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. what? |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. I had a hybrid UK funded degree course in the early 1990s. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. agreed, 100 percent.... |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
12. Agree |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
14. undergraduate education should be free to those who are serious about it. |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. It already is. I believe they are called scholarships. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. lol n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. i didn't realize that there were enough scholarships to cover every student who wants one... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. there USED to be 100 percent free ride scholarships...maybe that poster is much older |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. there seem to be A LOT more scholarships available now than there were in the 80's... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. Your passion is admirable. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
16. It's a solid investment in the future of our country. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
18. Not until we have fully funded and supported elementary and secondary education. |
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vanderBeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
22. It would be nice, but that's never going to happen. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. You've drawn an erroneous conclusion based on no evidence. |
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vanderBeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. One example doesn't mean that I'm wrong. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Of course that is exceptional, but so is Harvard. You said would never happen, |
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vanderBeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I shouldn't have said never |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. No problem, and I don't want a fight. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Actually he was a low level bureaucrat |
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423aaron (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
24. Many states have the equivalent of this. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. 16 million college students |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
26. People against free education on a supposedly liberal site. Unfrickinbelievable. |
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vanderBeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Way not to adrdess any of the concerns about free education. |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. "It would be abused, therefore we shouldn't do it" is not a legit statement for a liberal to make |
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vanderBeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. If you read my post, I wasn't one of the people who said "abusing" it was a problem. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. How about very, very affordable education? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. Public college tuition is FREE in GA and some book money too. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
37. Absolutely |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. Education through 12th grade is available for free |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
48. Anybody know where I can find a job w/ my Masters in History that pays well enough... |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. hey, throw me in with my MA/ABD in anthropology and $75K of loans |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. my kid is in her 2nd year of college and we are already over 30,000 in |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. It was -- in California |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Community colleges are still free if you're income eligible. |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. heh,,, Check out this "argument" someone put out against free/cheap college education... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
62. Yes, it should be free. nt |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-17-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
68. The state of Washington gives high school students free tuition to attend community colleges |
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machI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-18-08 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
69. Kick |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-18-08 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
70. I'm reminded of the book "Friday" |
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