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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 06:55 PM
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Carl Bernstein: Ayers and the McCain-G. Gordon Liddy Symbiosis
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-bernstein/ayers-and-the-mccain-g-go_b_134256.html

Does John McCain "pal around with terrorists?"

Certainly McCain's continuing "association" and relationship with the convicted Watergate burglar and domestic terrorist G. Gordon Liddy might suggest that is the case, if we are to apply the standards drawn by the McCain campaign.

In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain's senatorial re-election campaign -- the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy's syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host's values. During the segment, McCain said he was "proud" of Liddy, and praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great." From the program:

LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison , but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.

Which of Liddy's "principles and philosophies" was McCain referring to? Liddy's advocacy of break-ins? Firebombings? Assassinations? Kidnappings? Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?

During the same period that Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground, Gordon Liddy was making plans to firebomb a Washington think tank, assassinate a prominent journalist, undertake the Watergate burglary, break into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, and kidnap anti-war protesters at the 1972 Republican convention.

(end snip)

My favorite quote here:

Thus has John McCain embarked on a scorched-earth death struggle for the presidency
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 06:56 PM
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1. another... ooops
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:24 AM
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2. k/r
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:32 AM
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3. Kicked and Rec'd.
McCain should know better than to throw stones in glass houses. Liddy has as much as a spotted record as McCain does.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:35 AM
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4. Oh, but Liddy spent time in JAIL! That means he must be a REPENTANT
terrorist. Even if he's not, they'll pretend he is, and that makes all the difference in the WORLD. Even though Ayers is being horribly misquoted on the 'unrepentant' thing...

These fuckers must be electorally DESTROYED.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:43 AM
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7. Liddy - the original White House Plumber.
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 12:44 AM by ReadTomPaine

White House Plumbers

The White House Plumbers or simply the Plumbers is the popular name given to the covert White House Special Investigations Unit established July 24, 1971 during the presidency of Richard Nixon. Its job was to stop the leaking (hence "plumbers") of classified information to the news media during the Nixon administration. Its members branched into more nefarious projects working for the Committee to Re-elect the President (CRP, or CREEP), including the Watergate break-ins and the ensuing Watergate scandal.

The Plumbers were formed in response to the publication of The Pentagon Papers in The New York Times, beginning June 13, 1971. These documents detailed the history of U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Initially, White House Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman downplayed the matter to Nixon, stating that the information mainly made the Kennedy and Johnson administrations look bad. However, National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger and special counsel Charles Colson advocated a severe response to the massive leak1 in the form of publicly discrediting the leaker of the papers, former State Department and Defense Department analyst Daniel Ellsberg.

The Plumbers came to include several Watergate figures. E. Howard Hunt was recommended by Colson and G. Gordon Liddy was recommended by Krogh. Liddy coined his own sensitivity indicator for the group in the form of "ODESSA" for "Organization Directed to Eliminate the Subversion of the Secrets of the Administration".4

...

The Plumbers' first task was the burglary of the office of Daniel Ellsberg's Los Angeles psychiatrist, Lewis J. Fielding, in an effort to uncover evidence to discredit Ellsberg. The operation was reportedly unsuccessful in finding Ellsberg's file and was so reported to the White House. However, Fielding himself stated the file was in his office, he found it on the floor on the morning after the burglary and quite clearly someone had gone through it.6 In a September 1971 conversation, Ehrlichman advised Nixon, “We had one little operation. It’s been aborted out in Los Angeles which, I think, is better that you don’t know about." Eventually, the case against Ellsberg was dismissed due to government misconduct.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Plumbers


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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:35 AM
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5. good post!
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:39 AM
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6. McCain's own radical friend...
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 12:50 AM by ReadTomPaine
From the Chicago Tribune:

With friends like these ...

McCain finds his own radical friend

Steve Chapman May 4, 2008

Can a presidential candidate justify a long and friendly relationship with someone who, back in the 1970s, extolled violence and committed crimes in the name of a radical ideology -- and who has never shown remorse or admitted error? When the candidate in question is Barack Obama, John McCain says no. But when the candidate in question is John McCain, he's not so sure.

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Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed. "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?

...

Given Liddy's record, it's hard to see why McCain would touch him with a 10-foot pole. On the contrary, he should be returning his donations and shunning his show. Yet the senator shows no qualms about associating with Liddy -- or celebrating his service to their common cause.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-oped0...

More on Liddy from Huffpo:

Liddy, on Vietnam: "I wanted to bomb the Red River dykes . It would have drowned half the country and starved the other half. There would have been no way the Viet Cong could have operated if we had the will-power to do that."

Liddy, advising Branch Davidians how to defend themselves from ATF agents during a radio show: "If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head."

Liddy, on the impact Adolf Hitler had on him as a child: When he listened to Hitler on the radio, it "made me feel a strength inside I had never known before," he explains. "Hitler's sheer animal confidence and power of will . He sent an electric current through my body."



From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/05/g-gordon-liddy...


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:08 AM
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8. Liddy's a pip, isn't he??
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:14 AM
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9. The camera just loves the man.
:rofl:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:15 AM
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10. When I saw that pic, I thought
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 01:16 AM by SoCalDem
seal him in..drop him off the boat..and cruise away:)

the image of him bobbing away in the ocean in a disco/hamster ball was delicious:)
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:33 AM
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11. I don't care about no washed up terrorist but McCain needs to come clean about his best friend
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:38 AM
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12. MSM? How about 10 days of this? Where are you?
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machI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 06:24 AM
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13. Kick
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