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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:40 AM Original message |
How come Obama wont' release his Certificate of Live Birth? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Well, there's doubt as to whether |
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Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. He has succeeded in hynotizing us into believing he is alive. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. ... |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. They want to see what country he was born in |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. WTF? His mom was an American citizen. |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:46 AM Original message |
you can't run for president if your not born here. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. If your parents are American citizens, it doesn't matter where you're born |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Its not as moot point. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Once again, if your parents are US citizens, you can be born anywhere |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. once again, its never been addressed in this context. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Why does it matter? |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
63. It should be enough and enough said one would think |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Yes. It has-- time and time again... |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. sure, guess that settles things. n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. McCain was born in Panama.... not a smart move by righties |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Don't know whether it settles it or not |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. it does not. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. which is it |
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norepubsin08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. No kidding |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Their. Uh huh. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Oooooh, it's 'under the radar' |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
67. mccain was born in panama, wasn't he? |
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Progressive_In_NC (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
55. The argument is that she was only 18 when he was born and you had to be 19 |
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road2000 (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
81. OK, maybe I don't get it. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. Because they say that he's lying about being born in Hawaii |
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road2000 (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Got it, thank you. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
21. McCain wasn't born in the USA |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. technically, yes he was |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Actually, he wasn;t born on the base, but in the nearby town on Colon. |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. thanks for the info. n/t |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
68. yeah, colon is definitely not a base but a city in panama, a LARGE city in panama |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. And McCain tried to claim at one point that he was born in the base hospital that wasn't built until |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
50. A US base is not US soil like an embassy.... dumb ass |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
82. didn't say it was like an embassy.. dumbass |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. "US base, which is US soil," your words not mine- they don't own the soil |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I enjoy debating constitutional questions, |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
90. Huh? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
25. But McCain was born in PANAMA |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Here is McCain's REAL Birth Certificate |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
96. Actually, it's NOT! |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. You know, I wondered - the "ver." at the upper left says "1979" |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
32. I hear McCain was born in Panama..... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
86. Which is strange, because McCain wasn't born here. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. That actually has never been defined and it is not defined in the constitution |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
43. It has been codified into law by Congress. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. No, that's citizenship, not a "natural born" citizen. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. These are the criteria set by law that are accepted for children born of citizens |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Not "any" office. There are different citizenship qualifications. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. You cannot read. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I did read. You said it had been codified into law. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. A strict interpretation of the Constitution |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
70. No, Natural born citizen means being a citizen by reason of birth |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. So you will show me where the constitution defines it to mean that? |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
40. You are correct |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #40 |
69. he was born in colon, panama as per his birth certificate |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Indeed. Like if he were born in Panama. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Obama has already released his birth certificate. He was born in Hawaii. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Wrong. His mother would still have been a US citizen |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
57. according to factcheck, a non partisan group, obama was born in the USA |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
59. John McCain was born in Panama. I'm sure you knew that, though. |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. Just wondering...not trying to start anything, but why not? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Hmmmmmm... maybe it's because he already has? Here it is. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. Disgusting, I hope they don't still put "race" on birth certificates. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. That's probably what really has the Freepers tied in knots... |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
94. Then WTF? ill admit i miss day of propaganda here so i may be lost. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I'd be screwed because I didn't get a birth certificate until I was going into the navy |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Obama has released his birth certificate. You can view it on his website. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. Hey I did read on here that he had blue lips |
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sickinohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. I thought birth certificates are a matter of public record? |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Birth certificates aren't really |
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sickinohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Thanks for the information. n/t |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. How come McCain won't release HIS Certificate of Live Birth? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. No, no, no... |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Here is McCain's Birth Certificate |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I found another account of his birth. |
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Ashy Larry (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
11. I'm pretty sure Obama is a hologram. |
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prayin4rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
80. yeah, why hasn't Obama proved that he exists??? n/t |
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KarenS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
12. He did release it,,,,, |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Oh, that's obviously a FAKE! |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. because they don't have those on Krypton? |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Seriously |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
28. well he did say he was from Krypton and that his father Jar-el sent him to save mankind |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
33. Snopes says he has released it and that it's authentic. |
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Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Shhhhh....don't tell the freepers. Let them drone on. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Doesn't matter. Freepers have already decided it's a fake. |
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Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. They say that's why he's going to Hawaii? Oh my. |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
49. Because on Kriypton |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
51. Now, now. He can't release the "real" COLB, because by keeping people busy arguing about it, |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
54. Jesus H. Christ |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
56. according to factcheck, his birth certificate does exist. |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
65. my nephews were born in France |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. My nephew was born in Spain. |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. no he can't. |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. the issue isnt American citizenship, |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. There is an either/or in the Constitution. |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. The fourteen-years stipulation comes in |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
84. To run for the US Senate, don't you have to prove you are a US Citizen ? |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
92. Good Lord on a Ritz |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
93. I'll admit maybe, I am stupidor stone or both. Are there 2 birth certifates?nt |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-21-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
95. Over at the Honolulu Advertiser article on his grandma there's trolls bitching about this.... |
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