You know what amazes me about fundies?

nadinbrzezinski

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:05 PM
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You know what amazes me about fundies?

While writing background for fantasy novel been doing lots of readying into myth and history. The similarities between their chosen lord of choice and I don't know... Mithra... are just too much to ignore... all the way to the cross and three days before resurrection.

If they realized this methink heads would explode

Now back to writing a new mystery messianic religion

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JHB

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:09 PM
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1. Not a problem for them...

...they just claim the mythos around Mithra was ripped off from Jesus.

Same thing they do about stories of how Sargon the Akkadian (among others) was really the son of a Sumerian princess, who couldn't keep him so she set him off in a straw boat and let him float down the river...

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Virginia Dare

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:11 PM
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2. You can trace the story of the resurrection to ancient Egypt..

probably where the story of Mithra came from as well.

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Tigermoose

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:15 PM
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3. Answer: The pagan mythologies prefigure the coming of Christ.

I'm pretty sure that is what the early Church Fathers said.

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Hekate

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:32 PM
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6. My Catholic grandma (died in 1971) used the word "prefigures" for what she saw in Japan...

The Buddhists use rosaries to count prayers -- God arranged for that (and other things) so people would be able to accept the teachings of Christian missionaries. She was really pleased to see those rosaries when she travelled to Japan in 1959.

The Roman Catholic church, unlike American fundamentalism, has had a couple of millenia to get its stories together. They, also unlike American fundamentalists, have a long history of subtle intellectualism at the higher reaches. It's one reason the Jesuit missionary Matteo Ricci had a bit of success in the Chinese court, circa 1620.

Hekate

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Ezlivin

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:23 PM
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4. When I was in seminary...

It was very hard not to study ancient history and not see that all of the biblical stories had their antecedents in other, earlier cultures.

There really isn't anything new in the bible, only other stories repackaged with a Hebraic viewpoint.

Most fundamentalists are very ignorant of church histories, early church councils or other salient information. The vast majority are content with letting others do the thinking for them and then deliver talking points they can remember. There's largely no point in arguing with them; they simply regurgitate what they've been told and what they hope is true.

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dbonds

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:29 PM
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5. For an explanation of the similarity watch the first third of zeitgeist

Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 03:36 PM by dbonds

Its in the stars. They are all telling the story of the sun's journey through the zodiac. They are Sun gods.

On edit: Also google for astro theology

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Hekate

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:34 PM
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7. Inanna's journey to the Underworld also took 3 days. It's a great story. I love mythology.

:hi:

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nadinbrzezinski

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Fri Oct-24-08 04:29 PM
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9. Got a good book on actual blbilical history

as in archeology and stuff. It is fascinating how things change once you ahem intro actual field data

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Tangerine LaBamba

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Fri Oct-24-08 03:43 PM
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8. If you want to control large groups of people,

convince them that some supernatural being is watching them from up in the sky - where they can't see this being - and that they'd better do as the being says or else they'll suffer eternal damnation after death.

Since none of it is provable, you're home free. It's called "faith," or, as I like to think of it, "fear of taking responsibility for the consequences of your own actions."

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GreenPartyVoter

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Fri Oct-24-08 04:51 PM
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10. Oh yeah, there are many similarities between flavors of religious myths and stories.

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JNelson6563

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Fri Oct-24-08 04:54 PM
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11. It's really something, isn't it?

Crazy stuff.

Julie

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