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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:08 PM
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I'm supposed to know my extremely right-wing family...
...but how do you suppose they will react to Obama's impending win?

My father glowered and hated on everything during Clinton's presidency. He didn't live to see George W. Bush be sworn in and I sometimes wonder if the hatred ate him alive and finally killed him. I kind of know how he felt, having to live through the last eight years of *. I'm just now--FINALLY!--getting rid of some of the anger and getting along with family. I guess I'm worried that a big Dem win (and hopefully, a HUGE amount of change) will set my family off AGAIN.

My mother is as much of a religious nut as Palin. My brother is an Objectivist. Both enjoy Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Faux News. My mother supports Pat Robertson and the erstwhile Jerry Falwell.

I'm concerned that the wingnut pundits will whip the hard-liners into a furor. It makes me want to just sit down and bawl my eyes out because I want Obama to UNITE this country. I'm tired of feeling ostracized from everyone...including my own family.

If your family is hardcore right-wing, how do you handle it?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:13 PM
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1. I visit them twice a year for 3 days. Nobody
brings up politics or anything else mildly interesting.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:49 PM
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18. Yes, exactly my method. nt
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:13 PM
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2. We never ever talk about politics or relgion...
While my family is conservs and overtly religious, it's fortunate for us all that they don't do Faux news, Limpballs or the talking religious heads the way yours does.

We make a habit of avoiding these two subjects and there is peace.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:14 PM
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3. my older brother and sister
i deal with it by not talking politics. i don't know who they're voting for. i do know they both get their news from the propaganda machine of the gwbush administration. i'm basically afraid to ask, because deep in my heart i think that anyone who votes for mccain has not been paying attention. in the case of my siblings, because i know that they are not stupid people, i must conclude that they are willfully ignorant. so, i don't bring it up.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:14 PM
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4. I live 600 miles away from them.
When on the phone, if the subject veers towards politics, I suddenly have to go see about something I have in the oven.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:18 PM
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5. i just hung up on my sil if that helps.
i told her i was sick to death of her willful ignorance and she should just admit she's voting for McCain and get it over with because i'm tired of listening to her nonsensical bullshit.

Why the hang up, this was about the 100th time she's called me with the same old rw talking points. yup i hung up on her, i'm sure she's got flying fingers of fury right now calling my husband to complain about me.
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143tbone Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:20 PM
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6. I don't have a problem with family but a neighbor of mine just sent me this:
Subject: You will like this!


http://www.greatdanepromilitary.com/Battle%20Hymn/index.htm

I had to tell him why I did NOT like this.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:30 PM
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7. The economy collapsed because of the Ayn Rand idea.
Your brother should have heard of Greenspan's stumped response to Wexler, saying that the free markets unregulated did not yield the results he thought.

It's time to rescue American Democracy and promote an accountable yet creatively free enterprise system.

You cannot place a fox in the hen house, and expect the hens will be safe!

Keep your chin up and vote! Democracy is trying to stand your vote will help it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:34 PM
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8. We don't allow politics or religion to dominate our relationship
They know where I stand, I know where they stand, but we don't allow it to get between us. We have many other things in common, and we all recognize the worth and value of each other above and beyond religious or political considerations. Yes, we discuss politics once in awhile, but not often and we don't allow it to get angry.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:37 PM
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22. You are lucky. I have absolutely nothing
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 11:43 PM by roody
in common with my nuclear family. My older brother is gay and thinks gay marriage is ridiculous. He also reads Michael Savage.
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:44 PM
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24. Same here. We're trying to show my nieces and nephews
that you can disagree politically and still be respectful and love each other.

Of course, there are sometimes comments that I find hard to overlook, but overall it's pretty good.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:51 PM
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9. Hardcore right-wing....
interactions are never good, so I limit them as much as possible.

I recently discovered they have a VERY selective memory. Here is what I was told:

Uncle: "The way those on the left hate Bush, I've never seen anything like it. All the attacks....never seen anything like it."

Me: "Really?" (I wanted to say, "You have GOT to fucking be kidding me") "You don't remember Clinton being ripped to shreds, and how he's still being blamed for everything since WWI?"

Most of these people admit they believe Obama is going to win, and our country shall be destroyed.

I believe that, as long as Rush and Hannity are around to feed their hatred, they will be lying in wait for everything to pick Obama apart about, just as they did Clinton.

Until these people are made irrelevant, they will continue to make life miserable.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:59 PM
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10. Oh, Ladyhawk, what a painful, frustrating situation.
:hug:

We try not to talk about politics, but sometimes it crops up, something slips out, some one responds... and the wingers wig out. They can't cope with winning or losing, if someone disagrees with them.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:30 PM
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12. This is the approach I've taken: no political or religious discussion.
I've noticed that many of you have taken the same course of action. For me, it didn't work until I gave my mother the cold shoulder twice, fully intending never to speak to her again if necessary. As you can imagine, it was very painful, but at least now she respects my boundaries. I am worried that if she gets really worked up over Obama's election, things will go badly.

This week she was really uptight. A lot of it had to do with the breakdown of my car. (I'm on disability and need help because disability payments aren't enough.) So now I'm worried she feels resentment toward me. I offered to pay what I could, but she refused to take it. She took off for the weekend with her fundy friends to do something fundy-related. Of course, we didn't talk about what it was because religion is still verboten.

The last eight years have been hard. I wish my family would quit feeding their hatred by watching Faux and other right-wing shows.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:26 PM
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11. Agree not to discuss politics and stick to it. Families are too important.
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 05:27 PM by MasonJar
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:33 PM
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13. It's gonna be a fun Thanksgiving with my wingnut in laws
I'm getting ready for the doom and gloom and racist remarks. God, help me.
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honkydonkey Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:36 PM
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14. I feel your pain...
My mom and dad had been divorced 30 years and remarried seven years ago. They are heading for the big "D" again if things don't change soon. My dad thinks that Hannity is an all American hero and my mom is a democrat. My dads whacked out views are destroying their marriage and it's horrible but I find myself distancing myself from him. I love him but I can't help to think about some of the horrid comments he has made and it hurts my stomach to even be around him. Same thing with my best friend. We are talking less and less because I'm now considered the enemy by her church.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:55 PM
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16. Our fuckhead in chief lied to me
They just revealed that bisphenal A causes heart disease and diabetes. I now have heart failure. My dad said to me that they are the only ones who care, I shouldnt fuck that up. Meaning thinking left. A veiled threat about being cut loose to the wolves. Then, he hung up on me when I said that they should be IN the house for the election. They are remodeling. He said that I should talk to merlyn. He, being a crazy fuck. I was enraged. I called back. I said listen up. I havent talked about pol to you in years. Only responded, and even then to calm you. He said, I suppose you think I am a far right winger, cuz I'm not. I said, The charge I leveled against you is you get uptight about pol. It shouldnt be, but it is. He said that I dont talk, I lecture. That is when I told him I havent talked in years. I said that I understand that a prophet is never respected in his own town, and familiarity breeds contempt, and that how could I know anything, he taught me everything. I told him that danger is not right or left. That I was hurt that he made protecting my family partisan. I was on a roll. He couldnt even respond.
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honkydonkey Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:42 PM
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20. I was on a drug for anxiety
after some major medical problems had got me down. I now have diabetes thanks to this anti-anxiety drug. Makes me never want to take meds again but I have to take my insulin or I'm dead meat.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:41 PM
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15. I wrote something last night/this morning ...
... that I hoped people might be able to use when talking to GOPers.

Please let me know if you think it could work.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4311590&mesg_id=4311590

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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:47 PM
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17. They don't dare challenge me.
I win every time we argue over politics. They can't defeat my brilliance when backed up with facts & I spout off the occasional whopper just to see their eyes get really wide. They just stutter and babble, often repeating RW talking points. I just smile smugly, assume a dominant posture and shake my head while they grasp at straws. Y'know act like an asshole.

I kill them with neo-con circular logic, What-If's and if they cross the line, I accuse them of hating blacks and that stops them right in their tracks.

Using asshole RW tactics, sometimes, is the only way to get them to shut up. I know I'll never convert them, but the point is to get them to shut up about politics at family get togethers.
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aaronbav Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:23 PM
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19. I Don't - I grew up in Louisiana in
the 60's and all my relatives were the most racist and bigoted REPUBLIKKKANS you would ever meet - which is TYPICAL for Louisiana.

Anyway, at one point in the late 90's I tried reconciling after not being in contact for a number of years, but as it turns out, their "right" to use racist language, even after I asked them NOT to around my children won out - My father has not seen his grandchildren in 10 years now - his choice.
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diamidue Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 07:52 PM
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21. My right-wing family members don't know my politics.
They think I am GOP even tho we have never talked serious politics. They just ASSUME I am like them. They have no problem sending along hate-filled political e-mails to me. Often, after reading their mean-spirited e-mails, I want to tell them that I don't share their beliefs and please stop sending these things to me. But it would just cause a lot of tension and hard feelings. It does NOT make me happy to have to stiffle my feelings and beliefs while they feel free to bombard me with theirs. But there it is.

How will they react to an Obama win? They will just continue to send me hate-filled e-mails as before. They will still listen to the same hate radio shows. Nothing much will change.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:43 PM
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23. Before i visit them at Thanksgiving, I go to
Fort Benning GA to protest the School of the Americas (and to be with my real family.) I am so full of love and joy from being with my PEACE family that 3 days (two nights) with the fundies is easy as pie.
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