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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:33 PM
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election fraud in GA and AK? 2 million votes might be missing in GA
GA
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/6/8467/63403/456/655519

AK
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/stolen-election-in-alaska_b_141704.html

http://www.begich.com/content/begich-race-far-over
For example, in the North Slope village of Wainwright, the Division of Elections doesn’t show a single vote for me, while the Libertarian candidate got 90, the non-partisan candidate received 84 and Senator Stevens got 8. That just defies common sense. I flat out won five of the other seven villages on the North Slope.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:36 PM
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1. There are two million people in Georgia?
Who knew?
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:43 PM
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2. Election Reform should be a bipartisan issue right now.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 12:45 PM by joeunderdog
This is the sweet spot when we need to address it. Plenty of Repugs are doubting the system now and most Dems already do.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:07 PM
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4. There are over 9 million people in Georgia.
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:39 PM
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8. Those of us in the streets registering people...
who knew how many people weren't registered? That's a better question.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:46 PM
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3. I posted Shannyn's piece, also.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 12:46 PM by Blue_In_AK
There's definitely something weird going on in Alaska. Nothing makes sense.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:07 PM
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5. interresting.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:14 PM
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6. damn it
this makes me cry. we worked so damn hard here and the internals looked so good.

everyone blew this off election night and yesterday -- but it didn't seem right. I had a thread going about it yesterday. 500,000 newwly regisgtered voters from 2007. Where did all of those votes go? did karen purge those voters she was ordered NOT to purge? they said we had lower turn out here than 2004. Come on. We had early voting for weeks and the lines were crazy.

I feel so robbed right now, even though my heart is full of joy for the overall win. Still, it really feels like shit to be cheated and lied to like this. We worked so damn hard here and we made a difference. so many people voted who had never voted before. To see their votes possibly not counted, to think of them being cheated and disenfranchised AGAIN just enrages me.

for anyone who doesn't live here, it's easy to blow off. But if you were here, and you saw the hope on so many people's faces, I think you'd see it differently. Not just hope, we had internals from the campaign. I'm telling you this does not make sense.


as an aside, I have pictures of Obama being painted on an old church in a deeply rural part of GA. redneck area. So cool:-)

this breaks my heart a little bit.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:35 PM
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7. CitizenPatriot, I am with you 100 percent.
We are victims. We've been mugged -- again -- by the Republicans.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 01:50 PM
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9. thanks, blue...
I am really a mess right now. This is just heart-breaking. I am so sorry about what happened in Alaska. I know you all have been through so much and risked much more due to the Palin influence than we did here. You also have to deal with the mess she is bringing back. I hope you all manage to keep her out of the senate and out of your lives for good. I'm afraid she might find a way around that pesky law that she can't appoint the new senator...yikes.

When I think of the people I helped to vote, whose vote looks like it wasn't counted (we pushed early voting for those who might be challenged by Handel's "any citizen can challenge another at the polls" bs) -- the hope on their faces, the lengths they went to in order to vote when they have no car and a 9-5 job with no time off...man. It's crushing.

And to be written off by the country as loser RED state we couldn't turn when that is not the reality we saw on the ground is also so disappointing.

We won overall, and that is the miracle of our first step in regaining democracy. I suppose every fight can't be won, but it sure sucks to see your work destroyed by cheaters.

My thoughts are with you and yours in Alaska. Hang in there!
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 07:13 PM
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10. update
I talked to a friend who has been working on election protection and proper voting methods for a while. He actually worked on a new machine that was on the CA ballot a year ago as an option, but it didn't get passed.

He said:

Yep the voting machine problems definitely rear their heads when the
races are close. And the only reason why it's hard to cheat the whole
country is because the whole country does not use the same kind of
machines.

If you remember, I pointed out a while back that the Diebold machines
were and continue to be ILLEGALLY certified, and therefore, we are
using machines that are technically not compliant with federal and
state standards. This is due to the kernel level modules in Win CE
having been exempted by Diebold on the common off the shelf (COTS)
exemption clause.

The election board has yet to address this (as they told me they would
on the record during an official hearing). But it might ease them
along if Jim Martin's attorneys asked about it. IMHO if there were to
be a runoff, it would be great for them to require it to be on paper.
____________

So, for anyone who can focus on this right now, a request to the SOS and the campaigns for the run offs to be paper elections would be a great start.


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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 07:24 PM
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11. Saxby's going to steal it again. First was Cleland, next came Martin
When Georgia is having to be stolen for the repugs, they are having serious problems
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