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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:50 AM
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NewsFlash: CA Passed A Prop. That Will Allow Marriage Between Brothers & Sisters
mothers & sons, fathers & daughters

i just listened to a caller at the end of randi's show friday who said usually laws are written in the negative (example: people of the same sex *cannot* be married). instead, the caller said, this proposition 8 was written as defining marriage between a man and a woman--and because of that it would allow relatives to marry one another (as long as they were man & woman)

sooooo............

i thought that was a rather ironic side note, considering what all these people had allowed their self-righteous selves to do--they just legalized incest!
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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:53 AM
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1. Well, those rednecks in Fresno County can now stop jacking to their sister and take the next step
Hey, Jim Robinson. . .Freeptard in Chief. . .I hear you sister calling you "stud."
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:59 AM
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2. i have no idea who you're talking about -- but it sounded rather funny. lol. n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:02 AM
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4. Jim Robinson is the owner of freerepublic
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:49 AM
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7. oh--that's right. i forgot about that little piece of crap. n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:01 AM
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3. The freepers are pushing for a nationwide law making it legal to
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 04:05 AM by Hubert Flottz
marry their pet goat.

Edit...I don't think you'd call that a law but more like a general rule, that freeper on goat thing.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:51 PM
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10. Hm, maybe that's why FR's been down all day?
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MNReformer Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:06 AM
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5. Incest laws and marriage laws in California
Non-forcible sexual intercourse between persons who are related to each other within the degrees wherein marriage is prohibited by law.

Also prohibits marriage between ancestor and descendant of any degree, brother and sister (half-blood included), uncle and niece, aunt and nephew; bigamy and polygamy.

I guess non-blood-related brothers and sisters could marry.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:21 AM
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6. nope. sorry. the new law supersedes other laws. incest is IN! n/t
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MNReformer Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:38 PM
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9. Wow. That's bizarre. n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:59 PM
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11. i know! (well--according to that caller on randi's show--if he is right
and i haven't researched it but....how bizarre would that be?)
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MNReformer Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:07 PM
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15. Sounds like a reason to challenge it in court to me. n/t
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:07 PM
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14. bizarre reasoning maybe
the Amendment does not say anything about those other laws. It defines marriage between a man and a woman, it does not thereby legalize marriage between any man and any woman.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:08 PM
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16. The new law didn't make any union between male and female legal.
Merely restricted it to union of male and female. Not that hard to follow logically. The language added to the Constituion would be:

"Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."

Notice how it doesn't say "ANY marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:43 PM
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8. .
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:01 PM
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12. The text of Prop. 8 doesn't "define" marriage at all.
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 05:02 PM by Unvanguard
It reads: "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." That does not suggest that any relationship between a man or a woman constitutes valid or recognized marriage, rather that any marriage that is not between a man and a woman is neither valid nor recognized.

In any case, the courts are not so literal.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:01 PM
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13. In other words, it was rejected because of poor wording & gay marriage is NOT a dead issue?
That would be GREAT!
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