What's The Difference Between Welfare And Slavery? - Video

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/wingnut-revisionism-oh-ole-time-slav

Jim Quinn yesterday on The War Room with Quinn & Rose:

"You know, I was thinking about this. You know, if you were a slave in the old South, what did you get as a slave? You got free room and board, you got free money, and you got rewarded for having children because that was just, you know, tomorrow's slave. So, you got a free house, you got free money, and you got rewarded for having children. Can I ask a question? How's that different from welfare? You get a free house, you get free food, and you get rewarded for having children. Oh, wait a minute, hold on a second. There is a difference: The slave had to work for it."

We still have a long way to go

All welfare recipients must either attend a job training program, school, or volunteer for 35 hours a week in order to receive their full benefits. If they do not comply, they lose their benefits.

The only issues is the quality of the programs (which are government sponsored). Yes, there are still lots of wrinkles to be ironed out, but by no means is the OP statement even close to the truth.

i.e. Joe the plumber

Slaves got paid? Did I sleep through my high school and college US History classes? Slaves in America got free money? WTF?

During what period were slaves paid wages, how much did they earn, and why are they called slaves if they were actually indentured servants?

I'm dubious that slaves, not indentured servants, were paid wages in the United States, not in ancient Rome, etc.

If not run a search on these names;

Moses Grandy, Venture Smith, Richard Allen, Aaron Siddles

See if that gives you what you are looking for. If not let me know and I'll try to find the history of one of the slaves we studied in our history class. I can't remember the name but given enough time I'm sure I could find it. It was very interesting.

I don't know if I'll be able to find this thread later so if you want more info pm me or something. I'm still pretty new to these boards.

hours for other people for wages. They used those wages to purchase their freedom. It is hard to find the information I'm looking for but this is what I learned in my college history class.

Many slaves purchased their freedom from their masters or occasionally from slave traders. In 1839 almost half (42%) of the free blacks in Cincinnati, Ohio, had "purchased themselves" from their masters.1 Often this required negotiating a price with the master and working at a wage trade for years to amass enough funds, as we read in Elizabeth Keckley's narrative. (Such a plan could fail, however, as we read in the narrative of Moses Grandy who bought himself three times before ultimate freedom.) John Meachum, after buying his own freedom, purchased about twenty other enslaved African Americans who ultimately purchased their freedom from him. We will read these accounts and those of Moses Grandy, Venture Smith, Richard Allen, Aaron Siddles, and others. In contrast, we read several accounts of African Americans who were freed by their masters as a reward; we do not know how often this occurred. (For free blacks' letters to their former masters, see Theme IV: IDENTITY: #3, Slave to Free). (xx pages.)



I'll post more when I find what I'm looking for.

Slaves were hired out to other plantation owners, certain industries, and as house-servants to individuals. The owners of the slaves were paid for their work but the slaves, sometimes, got a cut. In some instances, slaves were allowed to find their own work and earn wages as long as the owner was paid a percentage. This was mostly the case with "skilled" slaves. Carpenters, blacksmiths, etc. They were even allowed to find their own lodgings. Often, they were able to find their own jobs.

This is the same ridiculous argument that slaveholders used in ante-bellum days. That the slaves were happy, well fed, well cared for, and wept when "ol' massa" went to his heavenly reward.

And, after the war the same people were truly amazed when the "grateful" slaves walked off the plantation and/or demanded wages for their labor.

Because we, as "progressives", haven't been effective in countering all this crap.

WHEN does any Air America program talk about poverty, homelessness?

WHEN does ANY "progressive" outlet actually give facts and figures about the lack of low-income housing?

It's why I finally gave up listening... I'm left out of the equation.

:(

Hey Bobbie, heres a link from a friend regarding just how little housing there is today, people also have to consider how difficult it really is to get services, not such a piece of cake...

http://blog.povertylaw.org/2008/09/the-return-of-one-for-one-replacement-for-demolished-public-housing-units/#more-73