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better than they treated us.

Right now, I'm gloating on the inside. I'll be nice after January 20th! :P :evilgrin:

I now have an incoherent sense of reality and justice (which, by and large, does not exist). I don't think I can even live in the US in peace at this point, and therefore, will probably forever be separated from family and friends. The message of hope rings hollow on my stone heart this election. Many parts of me are dead inside, with no hope of redemption. Some epiphanies are not worth having.

Just saying. :toast:

My mother and I debated whether my Union man but unintentially racist at times Dem grandfather would have voted for. He was biased against "southern blacks" who he saw as shiftless, ignorant, and lazy but learned English from the black kids in the neighborhood who he saw about as equal as any man of hsi times could.

I think he would have voted Obama. My mother eventually agreed.

not because we're on bad terms, but because it makes it easier to avoid talking about politics.

me to know that she thinks I'm a black sheep for being a Democrat. My sister and her republican family have been shunning my husband and me since 2006. We know little of what's going on in the family other than just tidbits my mother has been told she can say. We live 1500 miles apart. I see no reconciliation at this point....how can I reconcile with people who express fear about Obama and they still think he's Muslim...as if that makes a hill of beans difference anyway. Now, Thanksgiving we'll spend with my husband's family in Houston. My m-i-l, thank God, is a Dem but the rest are repukes through and through and we can't even watch the news while we're visiting. They're smug about the huge error of our ways and think they'll be vindicated in four years. So there you go. NONE of these republicans can even talk a good fight. They 'believe' anything their party,or Rush, says. I really can't deal with people like that. I'm hoping a catch a cold or something so I can legitimately stay home. I'm miserable about this. Thanks for reminding me...ha!

all of us the last few years. The divisions that have been nurtured will
be Bush's lingering legacy.

I lost my best friend four years ago. I do hope things get better for you and your family. :hug:

I'll try to brush it aside saying things like, we'll have to agree to disagree but it doesn't help. Sometimes I think they just check in to see what we're thinking now to feed a family discussion there. I hope time will heal. Thanks for the hug and here's one back! :hug:

Including my Regan Democrat dad.

Including my born-again Christian sister.

Including my former Rush Limbaugh fan brother.

Yep, all for Obama!

(My mom and I have always voted Dem.)

My stepfather, a World War II veteran, pacifist, and lifelong Democrat had a hard time getting along with his oldest son, who was also a pacifist and a Democrat but thought we should have not intervened. Our dad was opposed to the spread of Communism and believed in the Domino Theory.

Things would always go smoothly at family reunions until the two of them had a couple of drinks in them.

....I have a die-hard, true-blue, hard-core Republican sister-in-law that actually voted for Obama....

....why? I don't know, her and I have never agreed on anything....maybe she saw something in Obama that I missed....