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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:53 AM
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USDA: Vick found dogfighting 'funny to watch'
USDA: Vick found dogfighting 'funny to watch'

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27850103/

RICHMOND, Va. - Michael Vick put family pets in rings with pit bulls and thought it was funny watching the trained killers injure or kill the helpless dogs, a witness told federal investigators during the dogfighting investigation that brought Vick down.

In a 17-page report filed Aug. 28, 2008, by case agent James Knorr of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and released Friday under the Freedom of Information Act, a person identified as confidential witness No. 1 said Vick placed pets in the ring against pit bulls owned by “Bad Newz Kennels” at least twice and watched as the pit bulls “caused major injuries.”

The witness said Vick and co-defendants Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips “thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad Newz Kennels injure or kill the other dogs.”

Vick was sentenced to 23 months in prison in Dec. 2007, and is due to be released from the federal prison at Leavenworth, Kan., on July 20, 2009. He returned to Virginia on Thursday and is being held in Hopewell pending his appearance in Surry County Circuit Court on Tuesday, where he is expected to plead guilty to two felony charges but receive a suspended sentence.

The report, which has some names and other information redacted to protect some of the parties involved, also details the killing of several dogs at property Vick owned on Moonlight Road in Surry County in mid-April 2007, just days before the first search warrant was executed on the property, turning a drug investigation into the one that sent Vick to prison.

It says Vick was administered a polygraph test by the FBI in October 2007 and denied taking part in the killing of dogs in mid-April. When told he had failed that part of the test, Vick recanted his story and admitted to helping hang six to eight underperforming dogs.

The former Atlanta Falcons quarterback, once the highest paid player in the NFL, has been suspended indefinitely by the league and his football future is uncertain. He’s also in the midst of bankruptcy proceedings with $16 million in assets and $20.4 million in liabilities.

Peace, who also was convicted in the case, said there were times he suggested that dogs unwilling to fight be given away, but that Vick said “they got to go,” meaning be killed.

The dogs were killed by shooting, hanging, electrocution and drowning, and in at least one instance, according to one of the witnesses, when Vick and Phillips killed a red pit bull by “slamming it to the ground several times before it died, breaking the dog’s back or neck.”
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:57 AM
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1. I'd find Mike Vick getting a car battery hooked up to his nuts "funny to watch"
We all have our quirks. :shrug:
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:03 AM
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3. OMG
I probably should find that :rofl: but I do!
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:04 AM
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4. And if your dog got to attach the battery leads, it'd be even FUNNIER
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 01:29 AM by Ken Burch

:sarcasm:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:02 AM
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2. This is one truly sick fuck
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 01:02 AM by fujiyama
I find him being sentenced funny to watch. Actually, not really. It's just really sad. I'd lock him up for a long, long time...This kind of behavior is sociopathic.

Then again, after reading about the comments with regards to that teen webcam suicide, there are a lot of young sociopaths out there.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:11 AM
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5. Michael Vick belongs in a cage forever.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:16 AM
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8. At one point, some people were claiming that dogfigting was a big part of black culture
Did anybody here ever hear of anything like that BEFORE Vick got caught?

I mean me, I think of black culture, I think jazz, blues, hiphop(especially political hiphop)the poems of Langston Hughes and Nikki Giovanni, the novels of James Baldwin, Alice Walker and Toni Morrison. Dogfighting? Not so much.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:18 AM
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10. maybe you should start to think of the fact that more young black men go to prison...
than go to college. Maybe the reason why is that white America is thinking about Jazz and Toni Morrison.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:22 AM
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14. I've always been aware of that.
I remember Jesse Jackson(whose campaigns I supported in the '80s)talking about how much cheaper it would be to send poor AA kids to college than to send them to prison. Unfortunately, nobody went along with his point and the next Democratic administration basically reduced the whole thing to punishment and lectures about "immoral behavior".

My comment was not a slam on the AA community. More on what was clearly a cynical attempt to imply that what Vick did drew on some sort of hallowed tradition within it(a notion that to me is incredibly racist and insulting to the AA community).
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:24 AM
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17. I didn't see it as a slam. But this is something that was present in the area...
he grew up in, and what you see in your childhood does shape you for better or worse.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:26 AM
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21. Well, if he grew up with it, that's depressing as hell.
But then again, can we be sure that that wasn't happening in areas of all races?

It's the "it's a black thing" argument that disturbs me. I think that's an argument of convenience in this case.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:28 AM
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23. I am from VA and played college ball with people from the same area as Vick.
They described this to me years ago...before Vick even entered college. Its not an excuse...but it is a factor.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:31 AM
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25. I accept it was a factor. But there had to be more.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 01:32 AM by Ken Burch
Something in Vick himself had to be deeply messed up for him to have this kind of response. I assume that the guys you played ball with didn't say things like that.

I wonder if he could have Fetal Alcohol Effect. It's a milder version of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome(which is caused when a woman drinks heavily while pregnant), and it affects the part of the brain that processes consequences.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:33 AM
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26. say things like what? dog fighting was common in that part of VA.
anyone that would fight dogs does not value dogs as companions or pets. Vick is no different than any other that engage in the activity.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:36 AM
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29. I was referring to his comments about finding the suffering ot the dogs "funny".
That's what I meant.

I do find your comments about the environment helpful and I thank you for them.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:35 AM
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27. It's not a "black thing"
There are many Latinos, whites, etc., who organize and bet on dog fighting. Watch Animal Planet's "Animal Cops" series (which take place in various large U.S. cities), and you'll see the reality of dog fighting.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:38 AM
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30. I didn't think it was. I responding to those who'd implied it was.
I assumed it trascended race and ethnicity. Apparently, sadism knows no color.
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litlady Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 05:07 AM
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52. Neighborhood may be a factor, but not an excuse.
My neighborhood, my street even, had gangs, drugs, cock-fighting, and possible dog-fighting I never noticed. But if you are a strong person, and in some cases if a parent is present, these things can be avoided. I was asked to participate in many of these these and teased if I didn't. But motivation for eventual success at something made me refuse these negative influences. Not everyone refuses the influences and are thus not successful at some career or ideal the person wants. I have also seen many people participate in gangs and then eventually turn their life around. However, what surprised me with Vick is that he DID achieve athletic and monetary success. It seems that he did find success but decided to participate in actions both immoral and illegal - actions that could effectively end his career. I don't get it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:59 AM
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55. Sorry, but I can only buy that to a certain extent
Having seen my horrific things in my childhood, having known people who've seen worse than that, and we've all turned out to be caring, loving people is proof positive that what happens in your childhood doesn't necessarily shape your world view or behavior.

At some point you have to take responsibility for your behavior as an adult and stop blaming it on your childhood, youth, parents, etc. etc.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:38 AM
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31. Whoopi Goldberg and Jaime Foxx both made similar comments
There's been discussion on DU about whether they were "explaining" or "defending" Vick's actions. Either way, attributing his actions to "learned behavior" is a cop out, especially in his situation. If he was smart enough to have a successful career in professional sports, he was smart enough to know what he was doing with those dogs.

He did it because he enjoyed doing it. Period. He's a pig and a monster.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:54 AM
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51. Never, ever heard that before Vick was arrested. Saw programs on tv long ago
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 03:56 AM by Judi Lynn
of red faced, barely coherent, undoubtedly illerate Southern men, so backward you'd swear they lived in caves who raised these man's best friends for this "sport," and never could erase the image of one man so astonishingly, profoundly stupid, so limited, who claimed it was the dogs' nature to kill other dogs, that they were trained to be that way, and it was in their blood.

I came away from staring at that grotesque lump of flesh's mouth straining to express its thoughts on the subject feeling I had looked straight into hell. I had no idea there was ANYONE in the world this ugly, this twisted, and this unbelievably OVERFOCUSED.

Saw it over 30 years ago, but the image was so startling it seems only yesterday. The man, and those around him, all his fellow dog fighting aficionados were all blinding white Caucasians, except for their reddened faces, bloodshot eyes, greasy hair, and tobacco drool stained teeth.

In a world like that, it would be a blessing from heaven to be able to die, just to never have to be around them again. The dogs which can somehow die around filthy maggots like dog fight fans are damned lucky. It's a hell of a price for the animals to pay to escape hell.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:12 AM
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6. And Bush thinks it's funny to execute people and torture them too.
I'm not trying to make excuses for what Vick did, but why do more people know about this than know about the GOP's torture network?

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:17 AM
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9. You're right, of course. Sometimes the outrage does get misdirected.
There was a great song by Ewan MacColl called "We're A Nation of Animal Lovers" that dealt with that.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:40 AM
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33. An interesting comparison would be to Vick's sentence and any sentences handed out
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 01:49 AM by Ken Burch
For the owners of the Hamlet chicken nugget factory in North Carolina who caused the deaths of 25 of their employees and injuries to 54 others in a 1991 fire by keeping most of the factory doors locked(in order to prevent nugget pilferage).

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/1991-Hamlet-chicken-processing-plant-fire

Well, the owner of that plant got a twenty year sentence, equal to less than one year for each fatality. He was actually released only FOUR YEARS into that sentence.

Because, hey, you have to make sure nobody steals those nuggets.

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:09 AM
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48. Thanks for the reality check!
(White?) Capitalist kills dozens of (mostly Black?) workers. A month of local outrage and a reduced sentence.

Black macho got-rich-quick jock kills dogs. International howls of indignation and moral umbrage for years.

Yeah, he's an ignorant thug. Then there's the Chimpy-Cheney-Rummy-Kindasleezy-ColinBowel gang. They get rich and low approval scores.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:33 AM
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49. "They get rich and low approval scores." and their freedom. n/t
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:14 PM
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56. Speaking of the Hamlet disaster...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyU-PvbOjlo

Mojo Nixon and Jello Biafra did a song "Hamlet Chicken Plant Disaster." Oh my.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:12 AM
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7. I'd find someone making him his bitch while in prison
to be really funny. That's video I'd like to see.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:19 AM
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11. yeah...prison rape is awesome. nt.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:21 AM
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13. I can think of no one more deserving
than Michael Vick
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:22 AM
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15. how about child molesters...they should get prison raped too. nt.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:25 AM
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18. My understanding is that they usually get shanked if they're in the general prison population
And the others find out what they're in for.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:26 AM
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20. how about just regular murderers...should they get prison raped? nt.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:28 AM
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22. I wasn't defending anybody getting prison-raped.
Just offering an observation of what often happens to certain people in the joint, from what I've heard.

The whole correctional system needs to be scrapped and something else needs to be tried. What's being done now doesn't achieve anything.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:29 AM
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24. I was more addressing the prison rape fan I originally responded to. nt.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:36 AM
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28. Well, you know, sometimes the sentencing just doesn't go quite far enough.
Michael Vick got a mere slap on the wrist for what I'd consider to be some horrifyingly brutal behaviour. Personally, I'd like to see the pillory brought back for certain offences. The Enron guys should have had time in the pillory added to their sentences, so that people who'd lost everything would be able to publicly pelt them with mud, garbage, and excreta in the town square. A dose of humiliation can definitely do certain people a world of good. Prison rape is a particularly poignant form of humiliation. During his daily ploughing, Vick might as well just close his eyes and think of -- well, maybe not England, but he could ponder the dogs he tortured to death. Unless that just gives him a chubby, of course...
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:39 AM
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32. a chubby...like prison rape does for you. nt.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:41 AM
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34. Well, no, it does the exact opposite, actually. Then again, I'm not Michael Vick.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:43 AM
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35. he gets a chubby from dog fighting...you get a chubby from visualizing prison rape...
I would say that your fantasies are innocent, while his are twisted. Its ok.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:50 AM
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36. No, the idea of Vick as some guy's prison bitch doesn't so much give me a chubby as it does satisfy
my sense of justice and help me believe those dogs can now rest in peace. And I'm a great believer in the healing power of Schadenfreude.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:52 AM
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38. is it the violence of prison rape that excites you...or the sex? nt.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:57 AM
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39. You're just playing with me now.
Strangely, that excites me.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:59 AM
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40. see below...apparently we both get off on it. nt.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:07 AM
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42. Go figure, eh? n/m
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:08 AM
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43. I get a full hardon...you only get a chubby. nt.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:10 AM
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44. Talking about hard-ons gives me a chubby.
:D
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:51 AM
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37. YOU seem like the one with a hard-on for prison rape...
anything you'd like to share...?

sheesh.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:57 PM
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57. Yeah that would be awesome! Woul you pay-per-view to see him get raped? Like real violently?
:eyes:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:21 AM
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12. USDA?
Isnt that like Colonel Sanders criticizing someone for holding cock fights?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:24 AM
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16. I think it's because they have responsibility for prosecuting federal animal abuse charges.
But you're right, there is something weird about them investigating that and overseeing the slaughter of OTHER animals.

It's like the line Dennis Miller had about Bush The First(back when Dennis was still a liberal of sorts)and "number 41"s simultaneous opposition to abortion and support of the death penalty "It's all in the timing, isn't it George?"
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:26 AM
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19. How sad.
The pit bulls I've had the pleasure to meet are some of the sweetest dogs I've ever come across. As an owner of a Chow my family rescued in Vegas, where they dog fights are not uncommon, I hate the thought of assholes like Vick pitting these proud, sensitive creatures against one another. I don't doubt had we not rescued my beloved Jasmine, that she would have ended up in a barbaric dog fight to the death. Perhaps we should be nonjudgmental towards people who don't have souls, but I don't fucking understand or have any mercy towards anyone who could abuse an animal.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:06 AM
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41. I run a pit bull rescue, and I'd cherish 10 minutes alone with Mr. Vick.
Bitch that he is.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:16 AM
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45. In the province where I live, new pit-bull ownership is banned outright.
I believe that is the wrong approach. It borders on, well, racism, this maintaining that a certain breed of dog is not worthy to live. I think the fairer thing would be to insist that ALL dogs must be muzzled in public. It would also prevent dogs from ingesting every kind of garbage they see lying on the ground during their walkies, which is kind of a dog thing to do.

A good friend's ancient pit-bull just died recently. Storm was probably the sweetest dog I ever met. She was very friendly and gentle.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:27 AM
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46. Were you not Canadian, I'd offer
it was indeed unConstitutional.

We're working on it, though. That ban is bullshit.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:31 AM
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47. Two interesting ideas about Vick.
1) If he's that interested in fighting, why isn't he in Afghanistan, trying to find bin Laden so the rest of our soldiers can come home?

2) If he's this violent, brutal and unfeeling, why hasn't Vince McMahon hired him for WWE wrestling?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:47 AM
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50. Everyone who's disgusted by this needs to print it off
and write a letter to Roger Goodell, NFL commissioner. If there is not a sustained and LOUD outcry, Vick will be right back in the NFL when his sentence is over. There's already trial balloons being floated by at least one owner re: signing him when he's out.

Michael Vick should never play one more down in the NFL. The only way he won't is if public outrage shows the league it'll cost them money.

Julie
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litlady Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 05:11 AM
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53. I agree! We're football fans and were just discussing this...
we were thinking that it would be difficult to support our teams if they signed Vick.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 06:44 AM
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54. I think it would be funny to see Vick getting the shit beat out of him...
but we know he is a coward, along with all the goons who participate in that crap. They are not man enough to get in the ring themselves, losers.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:17 PM
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58. Leave it to a filthy streak in the human condition which leads it to domesticate dogs,
then train them to protect them from other human beings, then train them to kill other dogs similarly trained to protect their owners.

This practise goes back a very long way, carried on by inbred mouthbreathing drooling idiots in the Southern backwoods decades ago.

Their interests in life are unevolved enough to allow them to learn to read, to communicate intelligently with other human beings, and they find a universe of meaning in this barbarous pursuit of suffering by creatures too small to be able to escape the living hell they've created for them.

It most surely is NOT something which was born in the ghettos of US cities. Forget trying to promote that view. It's utterly false.
It reveals something about the people trying to push it.
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victoryparty Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:18 PM
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59. It's all very sad
Vick was such a great talent, the "real deal" in so many ways. The "bright side," if there is one, is that Vick's high-profile punishment for what he did may lead others to think twice about getting involved with such activities.
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