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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:54 AM
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Judge Says Invasion of Iraq by U.S. and U.K. Unlawful

English Judge Says Invasion of Iraq by U.S. and U.K. Unlawful
By Scott Horton - November 19, 2008 - http://harpers.org/archive/2008/11/hbc-90003869

Lord Bingham, one of the English-speaking world’s most famous judges, just went into retirement, and used the occasion of his first public speech to lambast the Bush and Blair Administrations over their joint decision to invade Iraq. The Guardian reports:

Bingham stated: “It was not plain that Iraq had failed to comply in a manner justifying resort to force and there were no strong factual grounds or hard evidence to show that it had.” Adding his weight to the body of international legal opinion opposed to the invasion, Bingham said that to argue, as the British government had done, that Britain and the US could unilaterally decide that Iraq had broken UN resolutions “passes belief”.

Governments were bound by international law as much as by their domestic laws, he said. “The current ministerial code,” he added “binding on British ministers, requires them as an overarching duty to ‘comply with the law, including international law and treaty obligations’.”


Bingham’s remarks reflect the emerging consensus in the international law community that the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by America and Britain was contrary to international law....

.... In Britain the political configuration on the war issue clashes with that in the United States: Conservatives push for a probe into the launch of the war, and the left-leaning Labour Party opposes these efforts.
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:00 AM
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1. Ok - So When Does The Trial At The Hague Begin
eom
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:00 AM
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2. Duh. Just duh. eom
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:00 AM
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10. double duh . . . n/t
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:20 AM
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3. Do you think Blair came to the US to "teach" so he could hide?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:22 AM
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4. I heard this on the international news
Of course it was illegal. To the Hague.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:24 AM
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5. ok, great, some retired British guy with no authority or power.
Maybe somebody with some real power can do something *real* in the very near future?
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:28 AM
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6. That was my opinion too.
I wondered if a judge ruled on this in some case in England. Turns out it's just his personal opinion and he's retired!

They might as well published the opinion of my neighbors.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:11 AM
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7. There was plenty of legal opinion before the war started that it was illegal.
There was pretty much international legal consensus that it was unjustified and illegal. It was all ignored.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:53 AM
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8. it isn't a newly "emerging consensus...."
Legal experts have said that the invasion of Iraq was illegal since well before the war began. It is a war of aggression, a crime against humanity.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:55 AM
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9. it's 5 years later
why didn't he speak up sooner? this is a serious question, i'm not just saying it to diss the guy. i'll go read the article maybe the answer is there. but i would really like to know why so many people were silent for so long when if they had spoken up, who knows how many people would be alive today?
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:25 PM
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11. Has anyone introduced Bingham to Bugliosi?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:43 PM
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12. Labour haven't been "left-leaning" in years
In fact, they're swung so hard to the right in the last decade that they're to the right of where Thatcher was. These days, they have a lot in common with your neocons.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:46 PM
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13. The vast majority of the world's legal experts knew & said that BEFORE
George W. bUsh's illegal invasion of Iraq.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:03 PM
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14. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, L. Coyote.
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