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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:42 PM
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The Navy should name a ship in honor of Bob Hope. What do yo usay?
Today as I watched CSPAN I saw a congressman submit a bill to name a library at Ellis Island after Bob Hope. I agree with this bill that should get passed into law.

I say that the Navy should name a Ship after Bob Hope for the entire good work he has done for decades. What do you say? if you agree, write to the Navy and request they name a SHIP after Bob Hope.

Thank you.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:44 PM
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1. The next aircraft carrier could be named The USS Leslie Townes Hope
...that was Bob Hope's birth name
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:44 PM
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2. there already is a USS BOB HOPE
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 09:45 PM by bpeale
EDIT: its a supply ship
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:47 PM
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6. Well thank you for telling me. I will look this up.
Well problem solved LOL and thank you for telling me. Bob Hope does have a ship named after him and well deserved.

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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:18 PM
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16. USNS Bob Hope (T-AKR-300)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:03 AM
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19. "Government-owned, Contractor-operated"
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 08:04 AM by TahitiNut
Irony. :eyes:

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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:47 PM
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26. Many of the 2nd tier supply ships...
are operated by civilians.

Their are about 20-30 USN people aboard: radio operators and repairmen, a medical corpsman, etc.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:45 PM
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3. I don't have a problem with it.
Regardless of his politics, he spent a whole lot of time entertaining the troops. More than most entertainers do.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:26 PM
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17. Here's my favorite Bob Hope story:
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 11:37 PM by pnorman
Bob Hope's Christmas 1944 Broadcast to the U.S. Merchant Marine Everywhere
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"This is Bob Hope speaking to you from Hollywood. Three days from now we'll be celebrating Christmas here in the United States. We'll gather around Christmas trees with our children and exchange presents with those we love. Merry Christmas with stars on the Christmas tree and stars in the eyes of our kids.... and stars in the windows of our homes. Blue stars for those still at home. Gold for the men who'll be spending Christmas with God. And silver stars for the ones over there, like the boys I'm going to introduce to you in a moment.
They're Z-men. Did you ever hear of Z-men? Sounds like a gag, doesn't it? Well, it isn't. Z-men are the guys without whom General "Ike's" army and Admiral Nimitz' navy couldn't live. Five thousand seven hundred of them have died from enemy torpedoes, mines, bombs or bullets since our zero hour at Pearl Harbor.

Z-men are the men of the Merchant Marine. They carry a big wad of identification papers in a book called a Z book, so they call them Z-men. They're union men, too. They work for scale. Yeah, scale! Joe Squires worked for scale. He was a seaman on the S. S. Maiden Creek. He and Hal Whitney, the deck engineer, stayed aboard to handle the lines so the rest of the crew could get away before the Maiden Creek sank under waves thirty feet high. The crew was saved. They never saw Joe or Hal again. Did anyone ever make a wage scale big enough to pay for a man's life? Joe and Hal gave theirs voluntarily. So did 5,698 others. Did anyone ever devise a scale big enough to make men brave?

Listen, it takes nerve to go to work in a hot engine room, never knowing when a torpedo might smash the hull above you and send thousands of tons of sea water in to snuff out your life. It takes courage to sail into the waters of an enemy barbaric enough to tie your hands and feet and submerge you so you can drown, like a rat, without a fight. It takes courage to man an ammunition ship after you heard how Nazi bombers blew up 17 shiploads of ammunition at Bari and not a man was ever found of the crews. I was there about that time. I'll never forget it. Neither will men like Admiral King, who said, "The Navy shares life and death, attack and victory with the men of the U. S. Merchant Marine." Yeah, it's Merry Christmas Monday for a lot of us except the boys of the Army, Navy and Merchant Marine. Our Z-men will be on the high seas or in ports far away from home, like a crew you're going to meet right now.

Before this program is over you'll hear their ship leaving with another cargo for the war zone, a cargo like 500,000 tons of vital supplies and the 30,000 troops the Merchant Marine delivered for General MacArthur in the first three weeks on Leyte. Like the 70,000,000 tons it delivered to all the fighting fronts in 1944. Seventy million tons! Ninety percent of all the war supplies we used all over the world. These boys won't be in the United States for Christmas. so the USS - United Seamen's Service - is providing them with an early Christmas party which we're all invited to attend."
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http://www.usmm.org/hope.html

This is the part that caught my eye: "They're union men, too. They work for scale. Yeah, scale! Joe Squires worked for scale. He was a seaman on the S. S. Maiden Creek. He and Hal Whitney, the deck engineer, stayed aboard to handle the lines so the rest of the crew could get away before the Maiden Creek sank under waves thirty feet high. The crew was saved. They never saw Joe or Hal again. Did anyone ever make a wage scale big enough to pay for a man's life? Joe and Hal gave theirs voluntarily. So did 5,698 others. Did anyone ever devise a scale big enough to make men brave?"

pnorman
On edit: Full disclosure: My father, a staunch unionist and a life-long IWW, had been going to sea all during WW2. I myself, started shipping in 1946. References to Merchant Seamen will always get my attention.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:45 PM
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4. I say: Wasn't he actually born in England?
Why don't the English name a ship for him? :shrug:
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:21 AM
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20. yup, he was: Eltham, England (n/t)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:45 PM
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5. Bob Hope lifted a lot of soldiers' spirits when they were in far-flung locales.
I like the idea of naming a ship for him.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:47 PM
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7. While others go to "rehab", this is how Bob Hope reacted to his using an anti-gay slur
On behalf of GLAAD, Bob Hope addresses the camera in a tuxedo, and says, "I'm proud to live in this great, free country and I'm proud of our commitment to free speech. And I'm proud of our country's commitment to protecting the rights of its citizens to work and live free from bigotry and violence.

"That's why I was amazed to discover that many people die each year in anti-gay attacks and thousands more are left scarred, emotionally and physically.

"Bigotry has no place in this great nation, and violence has no place in this world, but it happens. Prejudice hurts, kills. Please don't be a part of it."

This ad came about after Hope was on "The Tonight Show" in 1988 and used the word "fag" in reference to someone's colorful tie on the show that night, motivating GLAAD to request an apology. Hope took it a step further by creating this spot at his own expense.

Because this was a public service announcement in an era when GLAAD couldn't afford to pay for the media time, this ad aired on paid-access programs such as Gay Cable Network in New York City and The 10% Show in Chicago.

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Good on him.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:51 PM
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8. Bob Hope, in one tour, could do more for service men and women
Than the entire repuke party in a lifetime of "trying."
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:07 PM
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10. A-Flippin'-men!
:applause:
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:03 PM
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9. A deadly ship called "Hope."
Sounds about right for Bob. I hate to be the one to say it, but he was no friend to Dems/Libs. He was a God send to our troops and I have my deeps respect for him. I also loved his humor. John Wayne was also in that boat read his letter to the editor in the issue of TIME with the organic vs. local food cover story.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:10 PM
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11. USS bring em home. n/t
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:16 PM
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12. There was a Hospital Ship named the USS Hope in WWII
http://www.usshope.com/

It was my understanding that my father served aboard her in the Pacific, although his name is not listed on that website.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 07:58 AM
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18. USS Hope
Hospital ships during WWII were named after aspects of their mission, USS Hope, USS Solice, USS Mercy etc.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:26 AM
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21. Yes, of course.
I was quite sure the Hope wasn't named after Bob. I was not aware of the Solice but i had heard of the Mercy.

Thanks!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:35 AM
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23. I think you are thinking of this ship.
http://americanhistory.si.edu/hope/02hope.htm


SS Hope. Brought medical teams to far reaches of the globe. Very, very worthy.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:19 PM
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13. Better than naming them after bad Republican "presidents" nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:20 PM
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14. You'd have to surround it with relatively young, shapely ships with large bows ...
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 10:22 PM by TahitiNut
... and tight fantails.



:evilgrin:

(When Hope came to Long Binh - in the 1st Log area across the road to the south of our barracks - I refused to attend.)
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:26 PM
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15. My Dad remembered a show that Bob Hope gave during WWII
now i don't know where my dad saw that show...given that he was stationed most of the time in the Pacific and his only rest time was in New Guinea...but he did tell my mom about seeing Bob Hope..

Bob deserves a ship in his honor.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:28 AM
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22. And the next after Joey Heatherton. ;)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:38 AM
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24. Martha Raye probably deserves it first
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 08:38 AM by LostinVA
From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Raye#USO

USO

During World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War, she travelled extensively to entertain the American troops -- even though she had a lifelong fear of flying.

In October 1966, she came to Soc Trang, Vietnam, to entertain the troops at this base, which was the home base of the 121st Aviation company, the Soc Trang Tigers, the gunship platoon, The Vikings and the 336th Aviation company. Shortly after her arrival, both units were called out on a mission to extract supposed POWs from an area nearby. Raye decided to hold her troop of entertainers there until the mission was completed so that all of the servicemen could watch her show. During that time, a serviceman flying a "Huey Slick" carrying troops recalls that his ship received combat damage to the extent that he had to return to base at Soc Trang:

(go to wikipedia to read the rest of this!)


Burial

In appreciation of her work with the USO during World War II and subsequent wars, special consideration was given to bury her in Arlington National Cemetery upon her death, however, she was ultimately buried with full military honors in Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:05 AM
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25. Good idea in theory
but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth naming a weapon of war after someone who made people laugh. If Bob is already a cargo ship I think that is appropriate. War is glorified enough in this country let's not tie our merriment to our most violent folly.
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