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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:45 PM
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The DOJ Documents are up at the Judiciary website!
http://judiciary.house.gov/

You know what to do!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:49 PM
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1. It's about time! I've been thinking of nothing else!
:popcorn:
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:49 PM
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2. Kick & rec
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:51 PM
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3. Damn looks like I gotta put down another book for awhile .....
and look some of these over.... another late night for DU'ers. :boring: .... thats for falling asleep on the keyboard. :thumbsup:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:55 PM
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4. Hot Damn!
much thanks... yeah.. and forget the zzzzzzzzzzz's!!!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:55 PM
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5. Woohoo!
:toast: Thanks!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:34 PM
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19. Stepped away for dinner...
lots of docs to look over! Better get started!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:04 PM
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6. Tom McWeeny?
If this were a novel, no one would believe a character had a name like that. :rofl:

Is most of this steroid stuff? :shrug:
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:04 PM
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7. Wow, should they be publishing phone numbers & email addr's like that?
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 10:07 PM by Starfury
Haven't looked at the previous document dumps, so don't know if they did that before...
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:14 PM
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9. I caught that right off too ....
I was almost tempted to dial a few numbers for clarifications on some stuff already! Ha Ha! ;) ....
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:04 AM
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22. I haven't gone through all of the documents (obviously), but these are public servants.
Board members, city council members, and other elected officials/government employees usually have their email and physical addresses along with telephone numbers listed in a directory. If this were a national security issue, I might feel different, but so far I don't see anything wrong with having the email addresses and ph #s made public. They should be.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:13 PM
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8. god i hate adobe reader
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 10:14 PM by madrchsod
looks like issa had a hard on......
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:22 PM
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13. There are free alternatives
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/

Caveat emptor, YMMV, but it does the job for me.
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:15 PM
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10. Seems like an illegal immigration smokescreen to me
Docs 5 & 6 aren't there so I started reading back from #4
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:19 PM
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11. I have a feeling this is going to be fun
I just picked a batch at random and found this within 30 seconds
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:20 PM
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12. Kick!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:26 PM
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14. It appears everyone is trying to download them.
the site seems to have crashed. This is the page that is not loading. Try it later if it isn't responding.


http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt1-1070319.pdf
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:34 PM
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15. 11 documents, wow!
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:39 PM
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16. They probably censored all the risqué parts.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:41 PM
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17. Curious thing found in one of the dumps. Can anyone make sense of this?
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 10:41 PM by moc
From http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt1-3070319.pdf. See p. 25, bottom:

Email from Miers to Sampson:

"Kyle, any current thinking on holdover U.S. Attornesy? Any recent word on (clearly whited out)'s intentions?"

Whose intentions? Whose name did they white out? Can they do that in subpoena'd documents? Can't the committee just subpoena the electronic copy?
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:21 PM
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18. Hmmm, interesting example in document #6, page 42
showing how one hand washes the other, and how they wanted to keep Chiara's name away from the others...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:00 AM
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20. Check THIS out...
Specter's position on fired attorneys: use DOJ talking points! (email)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3171312&mesg_id=3171312

Carol Lam delivers a smack down to Issa's border patrol complaint
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3171329&mesg_id=3171329
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:01 AM
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21. It's all facsinating and revolting.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:10 AM
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25. I know of an investigation
that resulted in indictments and trials that targeted democrats and overlooked republicans.

Wonder how that USA has ranked.

I can't wait until they release the full version of the list.


:hi: :hug:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:50 AM
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30. Yes, I know the one you are speaking of.
Hugs to Winston!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:36 AM
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35. Yes. The full version of the list.
:pals:

This crap has been going on for some time, hasn't it?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 07:43 AM
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41. It's been going on as long as they have held the executive branch
Here's a book to read Blocking the Courthouse Door: How the Republican Party and Its Corporate Allies Are Taking Away Your Right to Sue it should be read by all the members of congress and their staff involved in this investigation.

BTW - the 8 that were dismissed, which states were they from, do you have a list?

:pals: :hug:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:09 AM
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24. The Carol Lam issue is most disturbing in what I've glanced over so far.
I notice in one of the memos sent to Alberto Gonzales by a Republican congressman, there are several signatures at the bottom, including "Duke" Cunningham.

It's criminal what they did to her. Not only the AG, but these rogue, manipulative and power-hungry Congresscritters need to be held accountable for trying to exert pressure on federal prosecutors and force them to abandon their own prosecutorial judgment in favor of catering to the whims of the Republicans.

Sickening. These thugs simply make me sick.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:39 AM
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36. "Criminal" is spot on. Take a look at this.
WHY CAROL LAM WAS THE "REAL PROBLEM": CORRUPT GOP FUNDED PHONY DEFENSE COMPANIES! $700 MIL!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=408673
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:43 AM
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37. this was close to his indictment folks
oh my... they were trying to have her canned before Duke went down.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 02:06 AM
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38. Oops.
:spank:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:06 AM
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23. Kickaroo! And Recaroo Too!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:23 AM
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26. It looks like Al Capone's vault is full of stuff this time.
Wow.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:26 AM
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27. Is this the Pentagon Papers of Bush's war on the rule of law?
My jaw has dropped.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:26 AM
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28. I am positive these emails are only the safe ones. There is NO discussion
in these emilas of firing the attorneys. There are letters from Issa, etc. as if it were a legal argument for firing carol lam. You KNOW there are many many more emails they hid. They do mention "lets talk about it on the phone a lot though." And I read today that gonzalez does not use email ever.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:39 AM
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29. At the risk of becoming a crashing bore...
There is already one "off the record" mail server known, at the RNC. I fully expect that there are others. What someone needs to do is get their hands on the outbound TCP/IP connection logs from their border routers or proxy servers or something like that, load them into a database and start crunching them.

If you can find clandestine email servers, that were used to get around the White House and DoJ email retention policies, you will have found The Eldorado.

These guys were all about compromising systems and policies. You can bet your bottom dollar they tried, and probably succeeded at, compromising IT systems and policies.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 07:26 AM
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40. yeah, after all
they had the technologists at NSA at their disposal

but, on the other hand, some of them appear to be really ham-handed and stupid
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:52 AM
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31. K & R!
.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:19 AM
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32. timing of firing "shortly after the nov elections".
document 2-1 page 9

email from chiara to Paul McNulty

"Michael Elston further informed me that I should expect contact from the white house requesting my resignation as USA shortly after the nov 7 election."
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:28 AM
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33. Next set of documents have been posted nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:32 AM
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34. Still going through and annotating the first release
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 01:33 AM by nadinbrzezinski
by the way folks, security settings on these are non existent, so you might be able to extract it to your word processor.

Me just adding notes using my PDF creator

Oh and ABC is saying we just have 3000 emails to go through.

Good grief... data dump
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:19 AM
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39. OCR works fine on them.
There should be no problem converting them to text.
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