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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:10 AM
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Anybody watching the House Judiciary hearings on CSPAN3?
Its about the FBI security letters. Even Sensebrenner was going after them.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:19 AM
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1. Yes! I had to laugh when the FBI was chastized for "sloppy work,
lack of proper training, and lack of direction"! The Rep. asking the questions said "THIS IS THE FBI!" There's NO excuse!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:23 AM
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2. Watching....just started, tho.
On the West Coast and just got up and got coffee and emailed a link to the hearing to someone.

So far...not awake!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:24 AM
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3. Interesting ~~
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 10:32 AM by Hepburn
Maxine W just asked if they had been sworn in. Wonder what she knows?

Edit for typo ~~ not quite awake yet!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:25 AM
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6. And Conyers just said that deliberately misleading is punishable
Point made
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:30 AM
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7. Maxine Waters is awesome!
Nailing that woman down about how many records they have on innocent people. Woman of course, can't answer.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:34 AM
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8. I liked that and that he put it on the record...
...as a warning to what could happen! And IMO, if anyone is storying to them today, they should take that as a promise coming from him.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:39 AM
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10. I was surprised they weren't
Been watching from the beginning. :hi:

When Watt was questioning, the FBI General Counsel testified they have destroyed documents because of this investigation. Unfortunately, his time ran out just as he was really getting to the nitty-gritty about it.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:25 AM
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4. Maxine Waters up now
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:25 AM
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5. From The Beginning
Stunning ....
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:36 AM
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9. If the phone records are critical...
...why not go to a judge and prove up the PC and get a signed warrant? It's NOT like the phone records are going to get up and walk away, right? So...what's the need to use a letter?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:43 AM
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11. Now asking why signed copies of the letters weren't retained
No answer
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:45 AM
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12. That seems like a standard thing to do with ANYTHING...
...retain a copy of it. Why the heck would they not do this...unless there was some reason to NOT do so. And the only reasons I can think of are BAD reasons.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:53 AM
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13. 1 out of 143,000+ has lead to a terrorism conviction???
Did I get that right?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:53 AM
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14. Only 1 case in 142,000 has resulted in prosecution
Sounds effective to me :sarcasm:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:54 AM
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15. 1 out of 143,000?
How surprising.

Now, let's talk basketball.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:56 AM
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17. Man, is Fenney a tool!
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 10:56 AM by Hepburn
Thanks them for their work? Yeah, right ~~ thank you for illegally spying on good Americans to get that WONDERFUL rate of success of 1 prosecution out of around 150K letters.

What total BS!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:56 AM
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16. Feeney is a wienie!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:01 AM
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18. Oh, please...`
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:04 AM by Hepburn
...they don't have an answer because they have not reviewed the 2006 letters? How convenient! :eyes:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:18 AM
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19. Ooooooh, good questions from Arthur Davis!
Wow...he is NAILING them! Good job!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:18 AM
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20. Delete
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:20 AM by Hepburn
Delete ~~ had trouble posting and message posted 3 times! Sorry!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:19 AM
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21. Delete
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:21 AM by Hepburn
Delete
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:19 AM
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22. Whoa, who is the congressman nailing Fine?
Talk about making him squirm
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:22 AM
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23. Arthur Davis ~~ I think
Having problems posting and may have missed something in the hearing.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:29 AM
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28. self- delete
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:30 AM by 48percenter
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:23 AM
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24. Issa is going after them?
What??? He has a brain transplant overnight and NOW is not a BushCo tool?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:28 AM
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27. He's still a BushCo tool. "...from the Atty General on down"
leaves out those above the Atty General. You know, the one's who set Policy.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:39 AM
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32. Exactly.
Guess going after the FBI is a "popular" stance to take or Issa would not be doing this. He is a total POS in all other hearings.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:26 AM
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25. Hang on, watching the last vote in Sen. turning back the clock
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:28 AM by 48percenter
on that slick Patriot Act clause.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:41 AM
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33. The one about the US Atty appointment without Confirmation?
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:26 AM
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26. They need to go back to the guy who said he was DESTROYING
records! WHY did they destroy the records? That's the drip that turns into a flood!

:kick:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:30 AM
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29. Oh, you mean the FBI's General Counsel
Yeah, that put my jaw on the floor too.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:30 AM
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30. Keith Ellison questioning now
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:33 AM
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31. Why is it just since the Dems gained control that all agencies are suddenly concerned
about doing their jobs properly? This is such a crock of shit! It's like school was out for SIX LONG YEARS!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:43 AM
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34. Good questions from Ellison...
...about if people were notified.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:45 AM
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35. Do you have a link for this?
Thanks in advance.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:07 PM
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36. It was on cspan3, its over now.
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