Cops Get Stung In Reverse Drug Bust!!! Boo-Ya!!!

- Uhh-boy. Talk about embarrassing! Lying-ass cops caught with their pants down.

On the other hand, I've got four evergreens in my front yard. I wonder how much I can get for pine needles in Odessa???
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They didn't have to say a word. No deception, no lawbreaking. Nothing. Just put some plants under a grow lamp.

I bought a couple of grow lamps once to try to help grass grow in a shady area outdoors. It didn't work, but it occurred to me later that in a lot of cities I could have been inviting a drug raid.

:smoke:

...how did the cops even know that they bought the grow lamps???

- This group should setup national chapters....

So they have to make up other evidence for "probable cause" for the warrant, such as "an informant saw pot plants."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHmP_KtmcB4


as well as all the sites of KopBusters have been shut down...

What would a FLIR show in a case like that? A hot lamp? I have to admit that most of what I know about FLIR cameras comes from watching bogus find-the-ghost shows.


I had a friend in college who engaged in some freelance agriculture in his basement, and he was absolutely convinced that the police were monitoring his electric bill. I called him paranoid, but...

Most grow lights are extremely hot and show on flir differently than normal home lights.They are also usually placed in a grid pattern for uniform lighting coverage.
FLIR operators are trained to look for such indicators.Several highoutput lights in a grid in a bedroom or basement are considered telltales for growing operations.
Looking at electric bills is not a rteally good way to find grow ops.Grow lights will cause an increase in electricity use but not that much of one.Plus there are many,many legitimate products one can go buy and bring on a similar increase.Things like a new AC.Or a small home welding machine.Or a new washer dryer.Or freezer.In other words,there are plenty of ways to increase a bill,99% of which are totally legal.
It would be far easier for LEO's to find grow ops through other means.

Keep stero and other electrical appliances ie ipod, computer plugged in or on. This pattern watching is a bit illigal in my mind.

Hell,even an untrained person can tell the difference sometimes.
And I consider it illegal surviellance also.

Mind you, I think it was a huge jump in usage, not just what would occur from the examples you mentioned. But the utility narced to the sheriff, and they put the house under observation.

Here's the kicker: They raided after a period of observing numerous Hispanic men going in and out of the house at odd times. I wonder if they had observed a white family, would they have done the same?

High lumen output with low heat signature.

http://shop.sunshine-systems.com/main.sc?sourceCode=google&gclid=CJy0y4PorpcCFQsQagodf3Pqhg

http://www.homegrownlights.com/

love to be able to grow basil. A lot of plants need more hours of sun than we have in the winterin our hemisphere. I think that is true of tomatoes, for example. I start seeds indoors. I also have house plants. They are quite boring, of course.

Grows fantastic peppers.

When I worked for a local Sheriff's Office years ago, a grow house (rural commercial property) got busted. They had been smart enough to license it as a foundry to explain high electricity use.

The tip off? No ventilation.

If so,I am officially scared now.

I think the people leasing the property were known associates of a drug distributor, which is what first drew attention.

The ventilation issue was used to build probable cause for a warrant.

Unfortunately we have a large number of people hand picked for juries, that just go along with what ever the police say, has to be true. Many counties legal systems are stacked to get only these types of people on juries.

...then you don't have phony cases brought before those bad jurors.

- Just sayin'.....

and seizure laws that allow them to take property and get a share of the proceeds from the sale.

The managers thus justify bigger salaries due to larger staffs and budgets.

- And it doesn't help matters that most are fascist mofo's either.

says the Odessa police are looking into if any laws were broekn. In other words, they're looking to see if they can charge Barry Cooper's group with something else NOT if their officers broke laws and/or internal procedures.

...on them looking into whether Barry broke the law. But of course, he didn't. They did it all by themselves.

- I smell a wonderful lawsuit and possibly legal challenges to all their arrests and convictions where grow light heat signatures figured into the cops being granted a warrant.

Look in the mirror, fuckwads! It seems likely they either 1) used a FLIR camera and lied to the judge about where their evidence came from (because unwarranted FLIR searches are illegal)or 2)coerced somebody they busted to lie for them and say he knew there was pot being grown there. In either case, they lied to get their search warrant. Color me shocked, shocked, I tell you.

Cop who walks in and sees the trees under the lights: "Uh, that's a pine tree, dog." :rofl:

:kick:

:evilgrin:

:rofl:

:kick:

Texas does have one of the most militaristic police industries in the world. And the whole prison industry is huge in Texas. So police have incentives to make shit up and get quick convictions.

One of the worst cases of police corruption and the shoddy work prosecutors in Texas do is the Tulia Texas fake drug busts in 1999. This whole incident was fueled by grant money the feds where handing out for drug task forces. And then the worst aspect of this case is that SOB undercover cop Tom Coleman got probation for all the corruption and lying he did sending innocent people to jail.

And then there are the 20 or so exoneration of wrongly convicted people in Dallas that are now being freed by a new D.A. who is reviewing all the old cases with the help of the Innocence Project.



Glad to see there is another organization putting the Texas judicial system under a spot light. There needs to be a whole lot of light shed on this state.


:applause:


Sonia

I was born here and spent most of my childhood here, but the laws in this state in every regard are absolutely Dickensian.

As soon as I can afford to, it's back to California with my happy ass.

This alone is compelling reason to turn a blowtorch on police corruption.

And not just by private citizens.

On June 30th of 1998, Henry Lee Lucas, arguably the most prolific and certainly one of the most sadistic serial killers in the annals of crime was scheduled for execution by the state of Texas. Given the advocacy of the death penalty by Governor George W. Bush, things clearly weren't looking good for Henry at that time.

Bush had not granted clemency to any condemned man in his tenure as governor. In fact, no governor of any state in the entire history of the country has carried out more judicial executions than has Governor George. At last count, the state of Texas had dispatched 130 inmates on Bush's watch.

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By all accounts though, Lucas, frequently working with partner Ottis Toole - a self described arsonist and cannibal - savagely murdered literally scores of victims of all ages, races, and genders. All indications were then that this was pretty much of a no-brainer for America's premier hanging governor. But then a most remarkable thing happened. On June 18, just twelve days before Henry's scheduled demise, Governor Bush asked the State Board of Pardons and Paroles, whose members are appointed by Bush himself, to review Henry's case. Strangely enough, eight days later the Board uncharacteristically recommended that Henry's execution not take place.

The very next day, just three days short of Henry's scheduled exit from this world, Lucas became the first - and to date only - recipient of Governor Bush's compassionate conservatism. The official rationale for this act of mercy was, apparently, that the evidence on which Lucas was sentenced did not support his conviction. There was a possibility that Henry was in fact innocent of the crime for which he was convicted. Never mind that many of the 130 death row inmates who did not get special gubernatorial attention prior to their executions had credible claims of innocence that were met with by nothing but scorn and mockery.

more@link:

http://www.konformist.com/2000/henry.htm

There was so much police misconduct surrounding Lucas and his thousands of false confessions. It's a joke to think he was guilty of more than a handful of deaths, if that, even. But it was all too convenient for the cops to feed him details and let him profess his guilt in every unsolved murder in the state.

Jim Mattox (our Dem AG) also supported clemency for Lucas.

It seems to me that the response time is a bit too rapid for just thermal imaging to be the cause. I strongly suspect that they were watching the outlet where the grow lights were purchased. I have heard of cases here in California where this was the case.

"evidence." I'm not a paranoid sort, but it woudn't surprise me at all that most of that "evidence" is planted, I mean, who'd be dumb enough to throw the evidence of their grow operation out on the curb?

One thing that some cops look for is when people put their garbage out shortly before the truck arrives instead of the night before. The growers think to give the cops no time to search their trash but are actually drawing more suspicion onto themselves. There was a case in California where a family home was raided because of three things; a high electric bill (something like three times that of homes around them), "suspicious" trash activity, and an apparently false-positive hit on their trash from a drug dog (could've lied about that I suppose).

The orchid growers association was mightily pissed off, to put it mildly.

Her husband has been growing lemon trees and such inside their house (it's Michigan--they won't grow outside all that great) with this massive grow light. Considering the area of town they live in with its known drug activity, they get cops driving by slowly checking it out and the occasional knock on the door from a new guy who didn't know about the lemon trees. She finds it annoying.

It even had a hidden doorway. But there were several grow lamps and there was a big sink and watering equipment. We thought if we bought the house we'd start up seedlings down there. We knew what it was originally for, but we figured it could just as easily be used to start up tomato plants. So does this mean that the police could have raided my house if I'd bought that house and grown tomatoes down there?

which is fucking SCARY!
especially if you try growing industrial help to start making home-grown clothing and ropes, and stuff.

for the "drug war"--- like the millions of dollars wasted on high-tech toys for cops to hunt down some harmless hippie that's growing a pot plant in his closet. :eyes:

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http://nevergetbusted.com/node/178 gets "account suspended" - guess his bandwidth is blown!

Dayum - I guess we helped a but there... the Youtube link is still good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fu4YVH8nA

quite a few years ago. The cops suspected there was some marijuana dealing going on at the local Burger King. So they brought out the drug-sniffing dogs. A quick-thinking citizen went home and got his bitch-dog, which was in heat at the time. Those drug-sniffing dogs forgot what they were there for. They had to lock all of them in the cop car. :-)

But you've got to go with the vile, fascistic, unethical TE-HAN police force you have,
rather than the one you'd want.


From now on and for all eternity,

TEXAS=TE-HAS

How much do we have to pay Mexico to take it back?

I say: SPARE NO EXPENSE!!

Mexico might take it back for free.

But remember: remove all a-holes.

Muerte al Sur.

I love it. If only more people used grow lights to grow flowers and veggies what would the cops do then? It's good to see this. I hope Obama gets wind of it.

:rofl:

If bunches of people were to go out and buy grow lamps to grow sod in their houses the cops won't be able to use IR imaging any more...

Plus one for the fourth amendment!

did the first thread get a little too hot for you?

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

N/T

I was talking to a young Harris County deputy around 3:00AM one morning when we saw a Beechcraft Baron (twin engine light plane) fly over at about 300 feet. A few minutes later, it passed overhead again, obviously in a back and forth search pattern. "That's DEA", said the deputy.
"What are they doing, running FLIR?", I asked.
"Yep, they are looking for hot-houses growing marijuana. They are really easy to spot around this time in the early morning hours."
I had no idea the courts had ruled it illegal. This guy didn't seem to know, either.

They can't use it as the basis for a warrant considering it's been ruled unconstitutional, but that doesn't stop them from using it to find houses that they can then focus on more closely.

What strikes be as odd about this story is how quickly he was raided. If they faked a story from an informant how did they know to look in that house? As for the thermal imaging equipment, the cops must have gotten rather lucky to find that place so quick and even then it wouldn't be grounds for a warrant. The guy was a former cop with an agenda; he probably knows all the little clues that cops look for to find they places and build a case for a search warrant. It's my guess that he purposefully laid a trail of bread crumbs for them to follow and some judge deemed it enough probable cause. While it's a distinct possibility that they used a fake informant to get the warrant there still had to be something that made them suspicious in the first place.

Maybe they didn't need to be real smart:

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=14711

Fucking awesome.

And it's been that way for a very long time.

................told them at the time, OK, fine, you wanted it, you got it.