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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:36 AM
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Could the republican obstructionism of the auto industry loan be what is needed?
And by that I mean what is needed to stir Americans to action. I'm pretty convinced that Americans hold the American auto industry in fairly high esteem despite the industry's failings. In fact, I think the industry has a sentimental place of pride for most Americans- in a way financial institutions most decidedly don't. Americans do not want to see the U.S. auto industry defunct or whittled down to minor player/employer status.

So maybe the blatant union busting anti-worker actions of the Rebublicans in the Senate will move people to action.

I'm hoping for massive backlash.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:39 AM
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1. Me Too (nt)
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:43 AM
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2. I don't know, I don't think so, at least not in time to save the Big 3
From what I've read and heard, most Americans don't favor a Detroit Bailout. The backlash that you speak of won't come for at least a year or more after it's too late, when it finally sinks in how great a loss losing Detroit was.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:44 AM
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3. Supposedly, the polls show 60%+ opposed to an auto bailout.
There is alot of spin happening around this issue right now. Getting at the truth of it is a real chore. Bankruptcy appears to be their only option at this point, though the spinmeisters who support this strategy are not being honest in portraying the potential effects.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:53 AM
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5. Yeah, and 70% were apposed to the Wall Street bailout but that didn't seem to stop anyone. n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:27 AM
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10. Actually, both these bailouts could have the effect of allowing the Democratic party to be painted..
as the friend of big business and the enemy of the tax payer.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:12 AM
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11. 25% unemployment will
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:55 AM
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6. What "bailout"? If the pollsters asked about the LOAN, they'd get a different answer.
But we know who the pollsters work for.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:10 AM
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8. Don't forget the support they had for Bush
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 08:11 AM by malaise
That's gone too. Reality will change those numbers. Expect a backlash but I'm guessing they built those detention centers for a reason.

I don't know how's they'll impose the Shock Doctrine given their minority status, but they will try.

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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:52 AM
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4. Small town rural America only have Big Three dealerships
If you live in Red Oak IA and have an foreign car you need to kill half a day minimum driving to Omaha/Council Bluffs for authorized service. My GM dealer gets my car from the driveway for an oil change and brings it back. I sit beside people that work there at high school games. We talk at the grocery store. Republicans have gone too far destroying family income this time.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:09 AM
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7. True. When living in Storm Lake I had a Camry that needed an exhaust pipe
it had to be shipped into town by bus, it took nearly two weeks to get the part.

But, then we all know that most people don't really need cars in Storm Lake because they can usually walk over to the IBP plant. And for folks living outside of town they can always use the golf cart or the old riding mower to run into the HyVee.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:17 AM
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12. The Toyota camry plant in Kentucky has gradually moved to hiring more and more
temps. The plant is non-union and this is what happens when that is the case. I know many temps who complain about the working conditions there (as well as the hourly "employees".)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:19 AM
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13. I'm surprised that dealers in the oversized big 3 networks haven't started switching already
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:25 AM
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9. The act is the end of the republican party. People will be standing in
soup lines cursing republicans. I just hope me and my family survive the next couple of years.
:dem:
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