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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:18 AM
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Democrats voting NO on the auto rescue
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 09:27 AM by Truth Teller
Democrats voting no (4)

EDIT: Reid's vote was procedural - he changed it to "NO" so he could bring the package up again later.

Baucus (MT)

Lincoln (AR)

Reid (NV)

Tester (MT)

Complete rundown at link.

http://www.freep.com/article/20081211/BUSINESS01/81212001
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:18 AM
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1. any repubs vote yes?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:19 AM
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2. Quite a few did actually. I think it was about 10 or so.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:33 AM
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14. So it would have passed
had the dems voted yea?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:20 AM
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3. yes. 10.
Specter, Dole, Luger, Hagel, Snow, Collins, Warner and I forget who else.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:29 AM
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12. Bond, I would imagine. nt
.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:20 AM
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4. Yes. 10.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:23 AM
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5. Reid's vote was procedural. He voted yes and changed it at the last
minute when the bill failed.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:23 AM
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6. why did REID vote no?
WTF was he thinking?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:24 AM
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9. Procedural maneuver that makes it easier to bring the bill up for a vote again later. n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:47 AM
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22. It's called "reconsideration.
And for a member to bring back up a failed
item for "reconsideration", the member must
have voted on the prevailing (winning) side of
the vote.

Because of this, you'll often see one member
switch their vote to the "winning" side ofvthe vote.
This means (in this example) that Reid, having
voted "no" along with the rest of the winners,
can later move to "reconsider" the earlier vote.

Tesha
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:23 AM
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7. Harry Reid voted yes, then changed his vote so he can bring it up again.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:24 AM
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8. This is from another thread of last night and this morning re Reid:
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 09:24 AM by higher class
"Correct, Reid's vote was procedural

Durbin made that clear in his remarks. Reid switched his vote at the end to leave open the possibility to reconsider. It is common for the majority leader to do that when a cloture motion fails."

By DUer – Democrattotheend
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bobmorr1 Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:26 AM
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10. Reid?
Why again would Reid have voted no?
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bobmorr1 Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:30 AM
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13. posted already
The replies were posted by the time I replied.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:29 AM
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11. We really should not act like Dems do no wrong.
Dems also voted for the Iraq war and the patriot act and the bail out. I'd still rather see Dems in power but they are not much better than the repukes for the most part. There are only a few people in office who are really serving the people but I can only name a few ...Henry Waxman, Denis Kucinich and maybe Obama ...I hope. I am sure others have their favs and can name more but there are not that many and certainly not the majority of those in office. I have 0 trust in people who make so much more money than me. I could retire on what a congress person makes in 3 years.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:42 AM
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15. We don't.
Actually, Dems are probably criticized more than Pugs because they are supposed to know better.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:58 AM
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16. Seems like it was a mistake for Obama to resign from the Senate so quickly
every vote may end up counting.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:14 AM
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18. That's why he resigned.
Now he won't have to answer to the people or his corporate owners for his vote. His yay for FISA and the banker bail-out exposed his loyalties and did a lot of damage on the left, damage that will never go away. Why add any additional exposure?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:07 AM
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17. I just blasted Sen. Lincoln's office. Demanded an explanation be mailed to be directly. And told the
aide that I, as an American taxpayer, demand that Congress and the Senate take an immediate 65% reduction in salary, retirement benefits, and healthcare benefits. If the American workers must lose everything, then they can stop hogging our tax dollars for themselves.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:41 AM
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19. This illustrates why it was so ridiculous to think that the number 60 was so important to attain in
the Senate. WRONG - the Dems always, always, always have at least a few defectors. No party discipline, even on crucial votes like this.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:42 AM
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20. Lincoln. WALMART SLAVE!
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:45 AM
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21. Tester is a HUGE disappointement on this issue - the guy has always
portrayed himself as a great economic populist..."the ultimate friend to the working man & woman"!
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:48 AM
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23. Now we know which Dems need to be defeated in a primary
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:56 AM
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24. It will come back
but it might be too late. Amazing how quickly they supported bailing out Wall Street but Main Street..sorry no go. Heck even Lieberman voted yes
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:59 AM
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25. 60 votes needed to pass a bill? Since when?
The Dems aren't willing to make those who oppose this bill actually filibuster? They lay over with just the threat of a filibuster?

I don't get it. :shrug:
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