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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:14 AM
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Time to demand all members of Congress & the Senate take a 65% reduction in wages.
I'm absolutely spitting nails this morning. The arrogance of those sitting on the Hill!! They have their own little 'perfect union' of being able to set and raise their own salaries and benefits. Name any other worker that gets to do that! If they believe that American workers should CONTINUE to lose wages (ours have been going down for 8 years) and their retirement (taken a look at your 401K?) at the same time healthcare/insurance costs are exploding upward, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Let them set the example of how all of us are going to get by with less and less!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:19 AM
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1. AND benefits. TIme the assholes make co-payments and pay premiums on health
insurance just like the poor folk.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:20 AM
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2. k&r
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:23 AM
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3. edit, because I'm not sure of my info.
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 10:32 AM by ogneopasno
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:24 AM
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4. I agree, how do we start a movement?
If we have to eat dirt, they should too.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:28 AM
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5. That would get their attention but you'll need a revolution to do that.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:37 AM
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6. GREAT IDEA! If they don't like it we can OUTSOURCE Congress!
The Earth is FLAT ya know!!!!!!
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:06 AM
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14. Interesting how the approval rating of congress is so low, yet we
continue to reelect incumbents.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:40 AM
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7. They're not exactly making a metric butt ton of money up there.
I'm not saying they're poor. I'm just saying, most of them took gargantuan pay cuts from what they could be making in the private sector in order to serve - its probably ok that they are decently compensated.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:44 AM
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8. Let's see in 2008 they get $169,300. If we reduce that by 65%, they would be making
$59,255 a year. About what the average UAW line worker makes. I see that as justice.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:14 AM
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16. It's not justice, its bitterness, envy, and retributory
Just because a UAW line worker makes 59,255 a year doesn't mean no one else in America should be allowed to make more (or less).

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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:47 AM
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9. U.S. legislators are among the highest paid in the world. Clearly, some parity is needed!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:19 AM
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17. Not compared to the private sector.
Almost anyone of our congress persons could quit and immediately triple his or her salary or more in the private sector. Many of them could have done that before they ever became "famous" as a congress person, since many or most congress persons are lawyers or other types of professionals.

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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:25 AM
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19. Very true, but if we're comparing legislators to legislators -- as McConnell is comparing
manufacturers to manufacturers -- my comparison, and call for him to cut his salary, stands.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:32 AM
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22. That justifies electing better Senators
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:48 AM
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10. And the resulting $58M in annual savings would do what?
Would it make the $15B or $50B auto loans depending on which number you like significantly more likely?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:01 AM
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12. Hasn't a thing to do with that. It's putting those on the Hill into the real world with the rest of
us. A 65% reduction in a Senator's salary would put them on par with an UAW line worker.
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jpljr77 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:08 AM
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15. So should we also hit their other sources of income?
...into the real world with the rest of us.


Really? The vast majority of Congress doesn't need that salary. It won't do anything to show them the "real world."
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:20 AM
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18. Yes, because haven't you heard? Making money is evil.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:30 AM
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20. Guess you didn't listen to all those Senators this week who believe that if you work for
one of the Big 3 as labor, than you don't need to make more than the guy working in the Alabama Toyota plant. That 'auto workers' should all be required to work for the same set wage.

According to those Senators, it is evil for UNION workers to make money.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:31 AM
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21. We should elect better Senators then.
:shrug:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:32 AM
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23. Would love to, but I don't live in Alabama nor Tenn. nor S. Carolina.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:44 AM
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24. Agreed - and both would be exceptions
Wages are going up sproadically and slowly, but they are not dropping by 65% across the board, nor do they need to.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:56 AM
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11. I m in
what a great idea.It really gets the point across, doesn't it?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:04 AM
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13. It's not gonna happen. As a matter of fact, a raise for fed judges
was tucked into the auto bailout bill. Add that to the scheduled $5,000 for themselves that congress probably will not reject at the end of December.

<snip>
The Senate passed the judicial pay measure as a separate bill in November, but the House never acted. A House Democratic leadership aide said that while House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., supports the pay raise, it was difficult for the House to hold a stand-alone vote in the midst of a recession to increase the pay for people making far more than most workers.

As a result, Reid has taken the unusual step of linking the obscure but important judicial pay issue to the unpopular auto bailout.
<snip>

More on both ends of the snip at link http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/ap_on_go_co/judicial_pay_raise

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