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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:28 AM
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Enough! Word is out Jeb is to rehabilitate the Bush brand. Let's look at the real Jeb in Florida.
I got the pure shivers today when I read William March's column in the Tampa Tribune. To think of Jeb Bush as a senator after what he has done to this state literally sickens me. I don't know how much is hype by friendly media sources, and how much is really truly Jeb Love. I mean 70 something percent of Republicans love Sarah Palin, so you just never know.

Buzz Builds

TAMPA - He could fill a Republican leadership void in Washington. He could steer the national agenda in his own conservative direction. And maybe he could rehabilitate the Bush political brand.

Those are reasons why some friends and political experts say Jeb Bush is leaning toward doing something he always said he never wanted to do: run for the U.S. Senate.

Bush has said publicly only that he is considering running for the seat Florida Sen. Mel Martinez will leave when his term is up in 2010.

But friends and political associates say that behind the scenes, he's being deluged by Republicans urging him to.


Let's look back at his tenure as governor. I can only mention a few of the more annoying things in one post.

Let's start with the tragic case of young Rilya Wilson.



Woman Accused of Killing A Missing Child in Florida

A caretaker for Rilya Wilson, the foster child whose disappearance four years ago exposed serious flaws in Florida's child-welfare system, was indicted Wednesday on charges of murdering the girl, who was 4 years old when she vanished. The caretaker, Geralyn Graham, was also charged with kidnapping and aggravated child abuse. Rilya's body has never been found.


More from the NYT article:

The state realized the girl was missing only after a new caseworker tried to check on her at Ms. Graham's house. Ms. Graham is already serving a three-year prison sentence on unrelated fraud charges. The state charged her last summer with aggravated child abuse, saying that Ms. Graham had locked Rilya in a cage, and with kidnapping, saying that she had removed Rilya from the custody of her official guardian, Pamela Graham.

Pamela Graham is not related to Geralyn Graham, but the two women lived together. Pamela Graham was arrested last summer on lesser charges of neglect and abuse, and struck a plea deal in exchange for her testimony against Geralyn Graham.


The outrage that added to the tragedy was that Jeb Bush publicly accused the two women of being lesbians...in a joking and rude manner. In front of a reporter and others.

Jeb Bush angers gay rights groups

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) _ Florida Gov. Jeb Bush told a delegation of lawmakers that he had "some juicy details" about the sexual orientation of a missing Miami girl's caretakers.

During a meeting Wednesday, Bush implied that the two women, who had just been charged with fraud stemming from the investigation into Rilya Wilson's disappearance, were lesbians.

"As (Pamela Graham) was being arrested, she told her co-workers, ' Tell my wife I've been arrested.' The wife is the grandmother, and the aunt is the husband," Bush explained, using his fingers to indicate quotation marks to emphasize the word "grandmother."

"Bet you ...


He later tried to backtrack, but the damage was done.

He was so arrogant he openly bragged about "devious plans" to overturn the class size amendment.

He said he had a plan to control teachers' salaries at the legislative level by taking it out of the hands of the local school boards...then he said he would not talk about it until after the election.

This is from the St. Pete Times 2002:

The Governor plays rough

TALLAHASSEE -- It has been no secret in this company town that Jeb Bush and his buddies play rough. Now, the world knows, thanks to the governor having boasted of "devious plans" and other strategies to a group of Panhandle politicians. Among them was reporter Alisa LaPolt of the Gannett News Service. She has covered Bush since the second month of his administration, but he apparently did not recognize her as a journalist. And so, in an unguarded moment, the other Jeb Bush came out.

Was it the warm and cuddly fellow who gets traffic lights for school kids? Not exactly.

-- This one cracks wise and crudely about the sexual orientation of a missing child's purported caregivers.

-- He schemes to sabotage the class-size amendment, if voters approve it.

"I have a couple of devious plans if this thing passes," he said. Rather than respond in good faith to simply raise taxes (or repeal the tax cuts that could have paid for it) he'd send them another amendment presumably painting the tax and budget choices as horribly as possible.

-- He may try to get off the hook of the teacher pay issue by having the Legislature prescribe salaries. But he may wait until after the campaign to float this, as it would be a "philosophical reversal" that would be inconvenient to explain on the campaign trail.


Remember when the Florida school pension fund was under investigation back in 2002? As a retired teacher I surely remember. He managed to get Janet Rehnquist, daughter of Judge Rehnquist, to delay the investigation until after the election.

Timing Of Florida Probe Is Questioned

AP) At the request of Gov. Jeb Bush's office, the inspector general of the Health and Human Services Department ordered delays in a federal audit of Florida's pension fund that ensured the review wouldn't be completed before Bush won re-election, officials say.

The delays by Janet Rehnquist, daughter of Chief Justice William Rehnquist, are now being investigated by Congress.


A former Rehnquist deputy, who recently retired, told The Associated Press he couldn't recall another case during his quarter-century career with the watchdog agency in which an inspector general intervened personally to postpone an audit.

"I began to smell politics," said Tom Roslewicz, the now retired deputy inspector general for audits in the agency that primarily investigates fraud, waste and abuse in Medicare, Medicaid and other social programs.


I think the investigation went the way of all Bush investigations. Nowhere.

Finally an important video of Jeb Bush, Ileana Ros Lehtinen, and their support of Orlando Bosch.

Jeb Bush, Ileana Ros Lehtinen, and Orlando Bosch...strange companions

The political pressure to grant Bosch a pardon was begun during the congressional campaign run by Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, herself a Cuban American, and overseen by her campaign manager Jeb Bush. The resultant pardon reputedly saw huge celebrations in Miami, in what was then called 'Free Orlando Day"


There seems to be no shame among Republicans for what the Bush family has done to America. I believe they would nominate Jeb Bush for Senate here in a heartbeat. I don't know if he would win, but he would be their favorite.

Those are only the beginning of his legacy here in Florida. It will be coming out in bits and pieces, and it will be truly devastating.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:30 AM
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1. We need to make sure
Jeb stays in Florida.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:22 AM
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6. Or maybe send him to Texas?
He has done enough damage here. :-)
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:29 AM
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23. Bite your tongue...
We want no more Bushes in Texas. Bad enough that Herr Decider gets to live out the rest of his life in comfort just down the street from me, protected by Secret Service agents with subguns in a neighborhood that was legally all-white until 2000.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 07:10 PM
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48. Aren't you guys in Dallas so very lucky?
And they are so arrogant they probably think everyone feels lucky to have them.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:28 PM
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26. Uh, no thanks. I think we're *still* worse off than you are..... ;->
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 12:30 PM by tbyg52
Edited to add that I've bookmarked this for future reference, while hoping that it won't be needed....!
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:44 AM
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2. i have learned to not underestimate the bushco syndicate, but as Robin Williams says,
"What can you expect from a family when the SMART son is named Jeb?"...

he is far more dangerous the jr.....he actually knows what he believes and doesn't need a Rove or a Cheney to call the shots...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:08 AM
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5. Ha Ha, I had not heard that quote from Robin Williams.
Yes, Jeb is dangerous.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:37 PM
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36. I hope he is roundly embarrassed and sent back home
with his tail between his legs. I hope he gets on TV and cries like a whiny loser cry baby like Pat McCrory did the other day. Next to Chimpy, I despise Jeb Bush the next most. No defeat can be humiliating enough for him to satisfy me enough.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:49 AM
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3. Bush Family Value$ (MotherJones)
(After reading this, it seemed to me that Junior was only run because Jeb got too dirty too fast. ef)

Bush Family Value$
By Stephen Pizzo

September 1, 1992

In 1991, President Bush bristled at a flurry of news accounts that questioned the business ethics of three of his sons. "The media ought to be ashamed of itself for what they're doing," Bush complained. "They have a right to make a living, and their relationships are appropriate," added a White House spokeswoman in June 1992.

Since George Bush has raised "family values" as a campaign issue repeatedly, though, it seems only fair to take a look at his own family. A computer search showed that over the past five years stories have periodically surfaced chronicling the individual business antics of the president's sons -- each riding comfortably through life in the slipstream of his father's growing power and influence.

Although a handful of good reporters for the New York Times, LA Times, Village Voice, and Wall Street Journal have diligently been digging through business records for months, something has been missing: an overview that "connects the dots" in the myriad deals that have been examined, making it clear that cashing in on influence has become a pattern of behavior extending through the first family.

Instead of criticizing reporters, the president might more wisely begin listening to those in government who have watched his sons with mounting worry. A year ago, I sat across a desk from a Secret Service agent who had been assigned to Bush-family security. I rattled off the names of a half-dozen questionable characters who had found their way into business deals with the Bush boys. How had these characters been allowed to get even close to the president's sons?

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1992/09/bushboys.html
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:02 AM
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4. So much in that article....Harken for example.
"May 16, 1990
SECRET
Attached is a paper containing a list of options for responding to recent actions and statements by the Government of Iraq. ...We ask that you pass this paper to Robert Gates for his review.

Under "options" the memo suggested:
Ban Oil Purchases: The largest benefit Iraq receives from the US is through our oil purchases...
PRO -- A total ban on oil purchases would have some short-term impact.
CON -- Such action might also have an impact on US Oil prices.

Oil companies had learned, during the years of the long Iran-Iraq war, that trouble in the gulf hurts companies with oil interests because, for one thing, at the first sound of a rifle shot in the gulf region, Lloyds of London jacks up insurance rates on oil tankers and company installations. The "wartime" rates are very high and cut deeply into company profits and investor confidence. If things really get out of hand, pipelines are destroyed and waterways are mined.

The secret memo augured ill for Harken's fledgling venture. To compound matters, that same month, Harken's own financial advisers at Smith Barney produced a hand-wringing report voicing alarm at the company's rapidly deteriorating financial condition. (A former company official told Mother Jones that Harken owed more than $150 million to banks and other creditors at the time.) Since Harken wasn't producing anything, it was hard to find a revenue stream, unless you count the river of fees, stock options, and salaries running into the pockets of Junior and other top Harken executives. Junior, as a member of Harken's restructuring committee, could not have been ignorant of the report, since the board had met in May and worked directly with the Smith Barney consultants."

Thanks for finding that.

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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 09:55 AM
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55. Let's not forget "Sin D"
Google Jeb Bush and his mistress Cynthia Henderson, AKA "Sin D" (Oh how I miss Media Whores Online)
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:52 AM
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7. Here are some more reasons
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 01:55 AM by JCMach1
1. Jeb has turned the $3 billion surplus he inherited from Lawton Chiles into a deficit of between $1.4 billion and $4 billion.

2. The governor has engineered multibillion-dollar tax giveaways for corporations and the wealthiest Floridians.

3. Florida's pension fund lost $355 million on its Enron investments, buying shares in the company when everyone was selling.

4. The average wage in Florida has dropped to just 87 percent of the national norm.

5. Florida is one of only 12 states in which median household income declined in 2001.

6. The governor promised to eliminate the backlog of 11,000 seniors on the waiting list for services through the Department of Elder Affairs. Today, the list has swelled to over 14,000.

7. Health insurance costs are spiraling out-of-control.

8. Jeb's prescription drug plan covers only 68,000 seniors, barely 2.5 percent of the state's older population.

9. In spite of Bushian buzzwords about improving education (FCAT, A+ Plan, vouchers and charter schools), Florida's high-school graduation rate has slipped from 44th to the worst in America.

10. SAT scores have dropped from 40th to 47th; ACT scores, from 35th to 38th.

11. Pre-Jeb, Florida was 29th nationally in spending per pupil; in 2001, it fell to 40th.

12. The governor's alleged $3 billion increase in education funding is a figment of his imagination. Factor in inflation and student growth, and the money allocated per student has risen less than one-quarter of one percent.

13. Class size in Florida schools, among the worst in the nation, dropped from 42nd in 1998 to 44th in 2001.

14. Research cited by the U.S. Department of Education concludes that reducing class size to below 20 students leads to higher achievement, but the governor says he has "devious plans" to flout the constitutional amendment reducing class size if it passes Nov. 5 and he is re-elected.

15. Florida's teacher salaries have dropped from 28th to 31st in the nation.

16. A national study of higher education gave Florida a D- because of relatively high college costs and a D+ because comparatively few state residents go to college.

17. The governor has grabbed the power to appoint everyone on the state's 26 judicial nominating commissions, so he can stack the courts with right-wing judges opposed to abortion and likely to push a conservative agenda.

18. Candidate Bush promised to fix Florida's foster-care system in six months; Gov. Bush let the Department of Children & Families become a national scandal.

19. On the environment, Jeb talks the conservation talk, but doesn't walk the walk. In public, he says the right things; behind the scenes, he pushes developers' agendas.

20. The governor has appointed anti-environmentalists to water management districts, the Environmental Regulatory Commission and judgeships... http://www.bushwatch.com/jebwatch.htm

JEBtm is foul!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:02 AM
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9. Thank you for those. He IS foul and has harmed out state.
:hi:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:08 AM
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17. Didn't he tout himself as the "Education Governor"?
Bu$hspeak=opposite world

I've been sportin' my :tinfoilhat: since I heard Martinez use the old "spend more time with the family" line.

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:26 PM
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34. Yes, just like W! He was the education gov.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:27 PM
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39. Well, though, it looks like the NCLB will be continued...
with funding. So some Democrats must have liked the idea. Now between the FCAT and the NCLB testing...there will be no school left standing with the word public in its name.

Obama supports charter schools. I guess that is the way we will be going. Glad I am retired. Damn glad I am retired.

I always thought public schools were the last frontier of honest to goodness real unbiased knowledge. Now they are not.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 05:45 AM
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53. I agree. Obama's positions on education are unacceptable...
One area where I am almost 100% in disagreement with him.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 04:41 PM
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44. Excellent list, but don't forget
his gross and blatant interference in the Terri Schiavo fiasco, all for purely political gain. And his attempts after her death to then get Michael Schiavo investigated and charged due to the "murky" circumstances of her collapse.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:59 AM
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8. If Jeb wants to rehabilitate the Bush name...
...maybe he should consider changing it to something less toxic - Nixon, Mussolini, or Hitler, for example.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:12 AM
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10. One of my previous posts: Jeb is the worst!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:23 AM
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11. Good post. Also his behind the scenes dealing for CSX ....
to practically take over Central Florida's I-4 Corridor without any restrictions. It is going to harm Lakeland so horribly.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1928

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:17 AM
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20. JEB is like Junior with more intelligence.
a bad combination.

He is more dangerous than his brother.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 08:26 AM
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12. It only goes to show you.
Don't piss off a newsjunkie with a long memory.

:bounce:
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 08:42 AM
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13. Don't forget his stealing from the tolls.. Don't forget his NOT creating
the highspeed train that was supposed to go from Tampa to Orlando.. He delayed it long enough, threw out another amendment when times were tougher, and got the project canned. Don't forget, he started everything in this state 2yrs before the other one got the country.. Look to Florida.. we're two years or so ahead of the rest of the country. I should have never moved here.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:57 AM
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14. This jackal crouches for the next attack. A legend in his own mind.
Fair warning: Do not let Jeb Bush slip off the radar. Ever.


For a taste of what this man will do to America, just survey his twenty-eight-year path of shady history in Florida from 1980, with emphasis on the still-burning path of destruction as governor from 1998-2006.


Beware of those who believe they are born to rule.






By S. V. Date, 2007






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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:39 PM
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27. Seafan, your posts about Florida are so valuable.
You need to recycle some Jeb ones now.

I am getting ready to redo a couple of the CSX ones in which Lakeland and Winter Haven got screwed.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:22 PM
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33. It's time to air out Jeb's nasty laundry. And we know how much Jeb HATES reporters.
But, alas, dredging up his nasty history since the 1980's might make Poppy cry.




Only a drop in the bucket:

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:39 PM
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41. I missed that great post this week.
You need to pm me when you post something like that...the board moves so fast. I was just reading some posts of yours I found on a google search of Jeb and something...forget which term exactly.

Keep it up.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 07:20 PM
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50. I hesitate to say this.
Since I'm from North Florida and the OP writer has already explained in other journals that those of us from the North should have no part in Democratic politics in Florida. But I hope we can field a very good candidate that we can all get behind.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:59 AM
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15. The Bush "brand" is FUBAR.......
..... It's right up there with Chinese-made dog food.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:01 AM
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16. Rehabbing the Bush name and legacy worked so well in the 90s when Poppy Bush had his favorite
'adopted son' doing the rehabbing for him.....you know....the SMART one from Arkansas that Jackson Stephens raised for him.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:08 AM
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18. The entire Bush Family is a cancer.
:puke:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:14 AM
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19. Just Silly. The Brand Is Irreparably Harmed
It's too late. Two Bush presidents, two recessions, two needless wars, two periods of gross incompetence, two periods of severe loss of confidence from the citizens.

There is no reviving the "brand". Even trying is an exercise in futility.
GAC
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:03 PM
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52. I would hope so.
But many Floridians still adore them. I don't know why.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 09:38 AM
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54. Well, Then Give Them A Good Slap!
I would do it for you, but i'm in Illinois! LOL!
GAC
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:33 PM
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58. Too many of them to handle.
Not enough who believe like I do. I would end up getting hurt.

:hi:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:18 AM
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21. Thank you for this very timely thread! n/t
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:24 AM
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22. Two words - Broward Federal. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:44 AM
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24. From 2002.Bush El. U.S. fraud suit targets ex-partner of Jeb Bush
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/03/15/State/US_fraud_suit_targets.shtml

I don't think anything ever came of it.

"Gov. Jeb Bush's former business partner in a venture to sell water pumps abroad defrauded the U.S. government of more than $74-million, federal authorities contend in a lawsuit.

The Justice Department alleges that MWI Corp. of Deerfield Beach, a water pump company whose equipment Bush marketed to foreign countries, fraudulently helped Nigeria obtain U.S. taxpayer-backed loans during his father's administration.

Much of the loan money went for secret payoffs to Nigerian officials and equipment that was vastly overpriced and unneeded, the lawsuit says.

The company denies the allegations, many of which surfaced four years ago when a former MWI employee sued the company."

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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:06 PM
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25. K&R so Jeb can't cover up his own legacy
With the pushing of Palin, I wondered whether there might be a Jeb + Sarah ticket in the future.

But Jeb would probably be smarter and choose a more sober, lesser known Republican woman running mate.

If he runs for senate, let's be sure he's defeated.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:42 PM
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28. Them and their kind will be around for a long time because impeachment is off the table.
One of our top priorities is to find out why these people are allowed to go free after commiting major crimes against the people of this country and of the world.

Are our reps working for and protecting us? Or working for and protecting them?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:47 PM
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29. Did you see Moyers interview Glenn Greenwald last night:?
He spent a lot of time on that. Parts 1, 2, and 3 are posted here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x249536

Very powerful
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:53 PM
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32. Yes I saw it. It was good, but only scratched the surface for me.
I'm a 9/11 inside job kind of person, and it colors my opinion about how deep the crimes go, and how aggressively the criminals should be pursued. Moyers and Greenwald like so many others just won't go there.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:51 PM
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30. Another of Ma Barker's psychopathic sons.
Jeb, Neil and the immortal W. Nice job, Ma. None of 'em care a whit for decency and humanity.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:51 PM
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31. Wow, that would be a first. A bush cleaning up after
another bush.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:27 PM
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35. .....
:rofl:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:05 PM
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37. Top FL Republican, hubby of FL state senator, wrote very negative Jeb op ed.
This deal will effectively kill traffic flow north to south in Lakeland, and will harm much of the county wildlife and endangered species. There are no rules for CSX.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20071206/NEWS/712060444/1037/Edit

"Whether it is the good fortune of having your buddy Gov. Jeb Bush honchoing a deal for you or whether CSX CEO Michael Ward is simply a good negotiator, it pays handsome dividends.

In November 2004, CSX executives made a half-billion-dollar pitch to Bush's Florida Department of Transportation. That pitch is now being played out in an impending agreement to pay CSX $491 million of taxpayers' money to move some of its freight trains off what they call the A Line, running down the east central part of Florida to Orlando over to the S Line, running down through west central Florida: Gainesville, Ocala, Plant City and Lakeland. The terminus is Winter Haven, where CSX wants to build a huge intermodal logistics center.


The payoff for CSX's Ward was $36 million in salary and benefits paid to him in 2005 and 2006.

Much of the funding for the $491 million, a first-of-a-kind deal for a private company, was accomplished in the 2005 session of the Florida Legislature. The Tampa Tribune reported in its Nov. 28 edition that few legislators knew of the Bush-backed Senate Bill 360 where the funding was inserted just before midnight on the last day of the legislative session, May 6.

Perhaps it's worth knowing that Ward's CSX predecessor was John Snow, who left CSX to head up theU.S. Treasury Department for Gov. Bush's brother, President George W. Bush.

It helps to have friends in high places."


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 12:46 PM
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63. Also Paula Dockery, state senator, wrote a letter to the editor...bill not read by senate committee
Moderate Republicans had no chance to stop Jeb's undercover CSX deal with buddy John Snow.

http://www.loblawyers.com/blog/paula-dockerys-letter-exposes-unfairness-of-csx-deal.cfm

"I am in favor of commuter rail for the state of Florida and will do my best to bring it about.
However, the secret deal (FDOT management required employees and consultants to sign 70 confidentiality agreements) between FDOT and CSX is not the answer to our transportation problems. What we have here is less of a commuter rail project and more of a corporate welfare giveaway designed to benefit a for-profit, multi-billion dollar company at the expense of Florida taxpayers."

FDOT has entered into an agreement to purchase 61.5 miles of railway in the Orlando area from CSX for a total cost exceeding $1.2 billion, with $150 million of that as the purchase price and $440 million to double-track portions of the 61.5 miles along the CSX A-line, which is already in need of improvements.

The balance would have been appropriated for various capacity improvements to benefit CSX's flourishing freight business throughout the state. Additionally, CSX would still be permitted to run their freight trains on the track that the state would own, and pay only between $2.5 million and $10 million a year to use it, depending upon the number of freight cars it runs daily. CSX would no longer have the responsibility of keeping up the tracks and may even be given the contract by the state (and more taxpayer dollars) to maintain it.
Why not just have CSX retain ownership and let us pay the company the $2.5 million to $10 million to run commuter rail on its tracks?

CURIOUS

Aside from the proposal being shrouded in secrecy, FDOT and CSX played games with the legislation. The bill was never heard in the appropriate senate committees to which it was referred.
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lenegal Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:07 PM
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38. No Jeb, No way, Not now. Not ever again
We Floridians have had enough of this idiot. Out to pasture with your corrupt family, Jeb.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 04:28 PM
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42. But wait, we forgot the very handsome George P. Bush waiting in the background.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:33 PM
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40. Does the Bush Klan
share a bloodline with the Romanov's
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 04:30 PM
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43. FUJEB
my newest bumpersticker...

:evilgrin:
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 04:48 PM
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45. I think the whole goddamn bunch should be thrown out of our country!
They're nothing but a bunch of descendants from "Hitler's Angel"
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 05:23 PM
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46. And then there's the Terri Schiavo debacle, where Jeb had to stick his nose into family business.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 07:08 PM
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47. That was shameful what he did then.
But so many jumped in with both feet, terribly afraid of the right wing.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 07:19 PM
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49. Jeb's Family's "Values"
Columba Bush - Smuggled $16,000 worth of clothes and jewelry into the US after a trip from France.

George P. Bush - Broke into ex-girlfriend's house and drove circles in her front yard with his car during a fit of rage.

John "Jebby" Bush - Caught by the police with his pants down in a parking lot, having sex with a teen-age girl.

Noelle Bush - Arrested for prescription fraud. Ordered by a judge to attend a rehabilitation program. During her time at the facility, Bush was found in contempt of court twice - once after being accused of taking prescription pills from a nurse's office and once after she was caught with cocaine.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 09:06 PM
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51. From the Smoking Gun: Jeb Bush, the younger..2nd offense.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0916052bush1.html

And more about George P.

Dallas Morning News write up

He's our John John

"Mr. Bush, 32, also dabbles in the family business. He's a member of the Texas Maverick PAC, a group of young guns that raises money for Republican causes. He frequently speaks at GOP gatherings about outreach to minority voters and the need to get younger Republicans involved in party politics.

He's been seen as the likely heir to a political dynasty and perhaps even the future of the Republican Party, given his multiethnic background. His father is white: Jeb Bush, who was a popular two-term governor of Florida and is also considered possible presidential material. His mother, Columba, is from Mexico.

But the family political brand has been damaged by the plummet in his uncle's political fortunes. Mr. Bush says he's not yet considering a run for public office. If anything, he talks more about having children than mounting a campaign.

"I like to think I'm establishing my own identity and own brand," he said during an interview with The Dallas Morning News. "I'm just fortunate to be born in an incredible family and learned the lessons that they have learned over the years."

He acknowledges that his uncle's unpopularity has made it tough for Republicans inside and outside the family. But he says it won't deter other Bushes from public service."

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Chiefofland Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 10:01 AM
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56. Another Bush?
Oh boy. Just what we needed.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:37 PM
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57. Just what we don't need.
:hi:
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:41 PM
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59. this is like trying to be positive about a bowel obstruction
The only good thing you can say is that it's gone.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:48 AM
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60. Isaw this poster at the march in NYC during the summer of the repuke convention.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:06 AM
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61. Ha Ha.
I love it. Babs and her beautiful mind which can't be worried about body bags...no wonder her family turned out that way.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:19 AM
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62. Not sure where I seen it, but it was in the last few months
Edited on Mon Dec-15-08 01:26 AM by lisainmilo
Jeb Bush sitting next to Karl Rove. I was suspicious then, I think he is the next to be "groomed"

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