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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 07:13 PM
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Are we back to days of Mythical Robin Hood? Will the Peasants Revolt? "London Banker" has Views:
LONDON BANKER:
For a while now I have been on the fence on the inflation/deflation issue – whether the massive monetisation of bad debts by central banks and governments will lead to rapidly escalating inflation as currencies are debased or, alternatively, lead to deflation as bad debts and illiquidity undermine all commercial and financial activity in the economy. I’m now coming down on the side of deflation for a very simple reason: there is no longer any incentive to save or invest, and so debt and investment cannot increase much beyond current bloated levels.
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I think it took me so long to feel confident about predicting deflation because the floating currency system under dollar hegemony and Bretton Woods II distorts the workings of both inflation and deflation. Despite the US being the epicentre of all the failed debts, failed securitisations, failed credit derivatives, failed rating agencies, failed banking businesses, failed corporate governance, failed accounting standards, failed capital adequacy models, and failed regulatory forbearance, the US dollar has recently strengthened as deflation globalised. The US exported inflation in the boom years, and now exports deflation in the bust years.

Since spring 2008, as US investment banks sold off assets, imposed margin calls, and used access to unsegregated wholesale assets in custody in the rest of the world to upstream liquidity to their US-based parents and affiliates, the dollar has strengthened relative to other currencies. The media reports this as a “flight to quality”, but it is more like a last looting of the surrounding countryside before dangerous brigands hole up in their hilltop fortress. The brigands appear temporarily wealthy compared to the peons left stripped and penniless and facing winter. When the brigands have eaten all the stolen grain and livestock, however, they will have no means to replenish except to use force to raid the countryside again. The peons can always hunt, forage, farm and carefully husband a surplus to gradually increase their wealth. If the brigands raid too thoroughly or too regularly, the peons have no incentive to grow crops or keep herds (negative savings returns) and everyone starves (deflation).

In the meanwhile, the peons just might wise up, hide any surplus more securely and organise mutual defense against further attacks to ensure that their peon children prosper and the brigands die off. That would be the end of Bretton Woods II, and the rise of China, India, the Gulf and other productive and/or resource rich states which invest surplus in domestic productivity and regional growth.

I reread my piece on Fisher’s Theory of Debt Deflation in Great Depressions the other day. One of the more confusing aspects is his assertion that the dollar “swells” as debt deflation takes hold. What he meant, of course, is that deflation increases the quantity of assets and the likely investment return each dollar purchases as deflation wrings debt and misallocation of capital out of the economy.

It is now clear to me that policy makers in the West are determined to apply every available resource to underpinning failure, misallocation and executive excess. As this discourages the honest saver from parting with cash, policy makers are ensuring that deflation will wreak its havoc on the financial and real economies of the world. Only when that deflation has played out and rational policies that reward market-based management and returns are restored will it be worthwhile to invest again. In the meanwhile, any wealth saved securely from state seizure will "swell" to buy more assets in future - a key aspect of deflation and a key means of restoring the control of the economy into the hands of more farsighted savers and investors.


I have quoted Mr John Mill before, but it bears repeating: ““Panics do not destroy capital; they merely reveal the extent to which it has been destroyed by its betrayal into hopelessly unproductive works.” The extent to which capital has been betrayed in the past quarter century under Bretton Woods II, bank deregulation and the Basle Capital Adequacy Accords is unrivalled in the history of fiat banking. The bankers, lawmakers, regulators and academics who collaborated in the betrayal still hold power, like the well-armed brigands in the fortress, and their continued collaboration to prevent accountability must inevitably discourage honest savers from risking further loss. Even so, it is the savers/peons who hold the ultimate power as they can starve the brigands.

Some day soon savers will revolt at financing further depredations. They will refuse to buy even government securities, gagging at the quantities of issue forced upon them under terms of only negative return. When that final massive bubble bursts, deflation will follow its harsh corrective course and clean out deficit-financed “unproductive works”.

When that happens, if reason is restored in markets with effective oversight, I might consider investing again, very selectively, in whatever productive works might then be on offer and only when secure in realising - and retaining - a positive yield.

http://londonbanker.blogspot.com/2008/12/deflation-has-become-inevitable.html
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 07:19 PM
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1. Interesting article
I hope he or she is overstating the case, but worth considering.

Bryant
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 07:20 PM
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2. Yikes! This makes perfect sense.
;(
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 07:57 PM
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3. So where do you put your money?
Got any answers?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 08:02 PM
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4. "London Banker" replied on the "Comment Thread" to the post...
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 08:32 PM by KoKo01
He's some "under mattress" and the rest "spread out amongst banks."

Led me to believe he's holding "Cash Back" but "Invested in CD's." :shrug: Maybe some in "safe MM" that the Government has extended until April to guarantee..(but since he's a Brit...I don't know if it's same there as here)

Problem Is...as he points out..."THEY" have taken away almost all places where one can be safe and there's no where left to "savers" to earn any interest rates. Bond rates are earning less than you put in and CD's are dropping. But, CD's are still earning better than Money Market Funds.

So...what to do. CD's maybe. They are still yielding better than -0% ...but being rather "safe than sorry" maybe buying "laddered CD's in different banks in your area. In other words...by 3 month, six month and year or two CD's if one has some funds left after the Bush/Cheney asssult) If one or two GO DOWN ...you at least have some diversified funds split amongst other banks. But, if you don't live in a Major City..how the heck are you going to find any banks to split up what might be only a few savings given what we've been through.

And, then, there are so many who have NO SAVINGS AT ALL! But, that's another story. :-( It would be time to be aware of the DU FUND DRIVE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4674723
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 07:39 AM
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5. Thanks.
Guess I'll just pay off my mortgage and buy a 12 gage. When I need food, I can shoot the bunnies in my back yard.
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