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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:24 AM
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Wright is to Obama as Warren is to Bush/McCain
They are both lightning rods for this divided country.

I have been disappointed in some of Obama’s picks for his cabinet and I have expressed those disappointments here, but it was not until he picked Warren to deliver an invocation that I realized just what he was doing.

Just think he could have picked the Rev. Wright and it would have really rattled the chains of the right wing…Freepervill would have been flooded with vitriolic comments right now if he had.
And if he had the agenda of sneaking in some legislation that was shady or unpopular it would have been a smart move because while the right was burning the effigy of Wright they would not have noticed, or it would have been to late when they did.

That is how the right wing has operated over the last 8 years and we fell for it every time.

Now Obama has put their lightning rod up there and let us do the burning of effigy…and why not, he can’t do anything now because he is not even POTUS yet…and it is better that we fume and fuss a little but keep our eyes on the prize which is fundamental change that will come through legislation and appointments to the Supreme Court, and the justice department.

And it just may defuse the right wing talking points a little for some, and that can’t be a bad thing if consciences is what you are after.

PS; I will not answer any personal attacks on me, but you are welcome to post them here, and I promise I will read them, because I believe in free expression for everyone.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:43 AM
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1. One needs only to look to Obama's book, Audacity of Hope, for the answers
Chapter 6: Faith
Delving back into the discussion about the polarity that has come to characterize the American political sphere in recent years, Obama tackles the issue of religious faith, focusing specifically on the origins and impact of the Democratic party’s increasing discomfort with displays of religious faith. According to Obama, as the GOP has become increasingly associated with evangelical Christianity, Democrats have somewhat automatically assumed the opposite position, and increasing numbers of progressives seem willing to attack all reference to religion in governmental contexts. Obama recounts his own journey from atheism to faith, contending that the structure of religion has fortified and deepened his moral convictions. Because of the high degree of religiosity reported in polls of Americans, he contends that regaining a sense of ease with religion is the only way that the Democrats will be able to connect with a majority of the public. At the same time, Obama asserts the continued importance of the separation of church and state, although he contends that some of the recent instances of persecution of this principle, such as the debate over the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, are somewhat ridiculous. He concludes that faith could serve as a common ground for future collaboration and cooperation between the two parties, and that tolerance and respect for religious diversity is of paramount importance.

http://www.wikisummaries.org/The_Audacity_of_Hope
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:52 AM
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2. Yep, throw the non-religious under the bus..
The non-religious already have zero political representation, let's make it even more uncomfortable for them.

Someone pointed out a while back what it was like to be non-religious in America, it's like being a claustrophobe stuck in an elevator with a bunch of agoraphobes, not only is the experience uncomfortable, the other people around you are actually enjoying it.

I seriously doubt Obama was ever an atheist, atheism is a philosophical position usually reached through reason, theism is just the opposite.





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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:13 PM
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8. This is beyond ridiculous! Talking about being totally closed minded
and intolerant. Reaching out to others is "throwing the non-religious under the bus"?!?! You need to grow up
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 07:15 PM
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9. The non religious are 15% or more of the population..
Where is the openly non-religious person on the podium?

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 01:28 PM
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6. I guess I should have read his book befor I voted
It would have saved me some disappointment at his selections.
But it would not have changed my vote.
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riley3 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:00 PM
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3. Also, in his book he mentions his theory that it is important to engage in dialog
with people. I am far from an expert when it comes to Warren, but what I have heard is not good. Perhaps shining so much attention on such a hateful person will cause his followers to look at him in a new light.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:21 PM
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4. Rasputin is to Czar Nicholas II, is to Wright is to Obama, is to Warren is to Bush, hm...
I'm glad now I didn't have this sort of Q on my SAT, though while I do agree perception can be, well, perceived as reality, image *is* important




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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:23 PM
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5. warren hates people - wright hates government
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 01:33 PM
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7. I am not convinced that Wright hates government.
But I am sure he hates being a black man in a white controlled government.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 07:31 PM
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10. Add "broken" to the list of gov't issues
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