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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:15 AM
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Barack Obama's Vacation
What do DUers think about President-elect Barack Obama's Hawaii vacation, specifically the fact that he is renting an $8 million home? I do not have a problem with the vacation, but I do not think anyone should be upset if someone makes an issue out of it when Obama supporters made an issue out of John McCain's wealth. In addition, many people made the contrast between John McCain's wealth and Barack Obama's I guess you could say modesty. So, I am just wondering how DUers feel about the vacation considering some people a big deal out of McCain's wealth. I always knew Obama was wealthy and I did not have a problem with that wealth. I am just wondering how people feel about the renting of the house.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:15 AM
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1. Don't care. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:18 AM
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2. If he can meet his jobs goal, I don't care if rents the entire Waldorf.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:18 AM
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3. He probably needed one that could be easily secured
by his security people. I would venture to guess, it's set in a not to crowded area which means it's a more expensive place. Most housing is expensive in Hawaii so having seclusion would up the price a lot. I'm not going to argue his choice.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:19 AM
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4. Barack Obama earned his $$$, unlike McCain, so your analogy is faulty at best.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 09:24 AM by ClarkUSA
Why shouldn't a man who happens to be the future president spend his money on family friendly vacations at secure locations?
He's also with a gaggle of longtime friends, and they're all splitting the cost of the property as they always have donel.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:12 AM
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24. I agree! nt
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:19 AM
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5. as long as he is using his own money.
the wealthy are out of touch with the plebians (us). They have no clue as to what it is to live on 8 bucks an hour. Congress did, after all, just vote itself a pay raise. There is a kings class in this country, and a serfs class. not much in between these days.
I would respect a politician who lived on 8 bucks an hour a lot more then a wealthy one, to be quite honest with you.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:20 AM
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6. I think your post is absolutely ridiculous and
worthy only of scorn.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:20 AM
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10. well, now that I think of it, scorn implies interest
probably it deserves to be ignored.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:18 AM
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39. Asking Questions
I do not see anything wrong with asking questions. People reacted a certain way during the election and I wanted to know how people would react now.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:20 AM
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7. funny how no one asked these questions of the bush family
or the cheneys.


:shrug:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:21 AM
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12. Or to go back into the past, Nixon and Reagan and their estates.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:50 AM
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20. yeah, it kinda makes me think the unspoken word is "uppity".
how dare the black guy stay at a large building that's expensive...when we NEVER heard how expensive the places were with the white guy. Hell, mccain couldn't even count how many places, but that's okeydoke, just don't let the black guy stay at a nice place.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:13 AM
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25. You are so right! nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:53 AM
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31. It's ok. His vacation got the Chuck Todd seal of approval today on The Today Show.
He brought up that Hawaii might seem special to lots of people, but this was Obama's home state. He also mentioned all of the Pres. who had expensive vacation homes of their own... ie Reagan, Papa Bush, Nixon and Shrub's ranch.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:24 AM
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27. You weren't paying attention. People sure did. nt
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:57 AM
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33. I guess I wasn't, then, because I so don't recall it at all in the MSM.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:10 AM
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35. Yes, there were regular tallies of his weekends at Camp David and his nearly weekly...
that's right "nearly weekly" flights to Texas.

I think the difference is that no one really wanted GWB in his office, and a large % didn't expect him to be there all that much. The 9 to 5 presidency with two hour lunch/workout break, and all.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:36 PM
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44. I just saw his 3 helicopter flight head to Camp David. nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:20 AM
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8. He is vacationing in the state where he was born and raised. It might be an 8 million dollar home
but you don't mention the rental fee.

I would think the Obamas would have to stay at a place that would be logistic in order to protect them.

No biggie at all.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:20 AM
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9. He has been on the campaign trail for 2 years, he earned it
He started on the transition the day after the election, and has been working steadily every since. A weeks vacation over the Christmas holiday is fine with me. Nothing would get done this week anyway. He needs to take a break.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:21 AM
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11. I have no problem with him taking vacations. And he doesn't have to stay at Motel 6.
He'd have a hard time taking as many vacations as * did while he was in office.

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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:22 AM
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13. Lots of people rent homes when they vacation on an island.
Why should I care? :shrug:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:23 AM
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14. He deserves it. It's been a rough year. The RW machine is going to be tough in 2009
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:29 AM
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15. No prob
with ANY pres' vacation plans.

Remember Clintons ALWAYS stayed at 'fancy' digs belonging to 'friends.'

O's fortune/misfortune that he's got Hawaiian family history, AND great tradition of spending time with close group of friends (from Chicago.) Keep in mind extraordinary security matters.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:36 AM
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16. So what this is the last real vacation he gets for 4 years
DU, where concern for concern concerns everybody. Oh and Obama isn't wealthy, I don't know where you got that idea.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:15 AM
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37. Read the Post
Read my post correctly. I said I always knew Obama was wealthy and I did not care about him being wealthy, but since others seemed to have made a big deal about the wealth of other people I was wondering how people felt about Obama renting an $8 million home.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:33 PM
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43. I read it, and you have NOTHING to question. If I go to a hotel and rent a room
does the value of the hotel come into play? You are beating a dead horse for the sake of beating it.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:40 AM
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17. How much does it cost to rent a home worth 8 million?
I doubt he's actually paying 8 million.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:44 AM
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18. I think I read it's about $3,800 a day but he's splitting the compound
with two other families.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:00 AM
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21. In today's economy, I bet they got a good deal! n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:50 AM
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30. A little less than $1300 a day for a family of four. Less than some high end resorts.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:47 AM
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19. I want him (and his family) well protected and safe. He can spend
whatever he wants on his family vacations, it's his money not ours.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:01 AM
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22. This is the first time I have heard the value of a home a politician was renting
It's just a ploy to paint Obama as elitist. Here's a clue - real estate prices on the island of Oahu are expensive. Especially if that place has a view desirable to vacationers. Hawaii is where he grew up and he's visiting family and saying goodbye to his grandmother. I wish people would give him an effing break.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:28 AM
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29. And, in addition to those factors you just listed,
With the MESS the current idiot is leaving behind, this may be the last decent vacation he gets for at least 4 more years.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:05 AM
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23. As George Bush prepares to take his 500th vacation day in office I have to wonder who cares?
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 10:07 AM by ThomWV
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:23 AM
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26. Fine, except he was a basketball player during the campaign and he's morphed into a golfer now. nt
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:25 AM
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28. Don't care
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:55 AM
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32. Is he paying for the home himself? Then BFD
The guy deserves a nice vacation.

I think we have better things to rant about than this.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:58 AM
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34. He's renting an $8 million dollar home?
So what? He can afford it. And it's not like he paid $8 million dollars for it.:eyes:
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:15 AM
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36. as long as he's not like our lazy lame duck and set a record for vacations
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/11/politics/uwire/main3927378.shtml

an astounding 879 days at his ranch in Crawford, that article was written May 11th so it's probably more now.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:18 AM
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38. He is renting it, not owning it... I stayed in a $1 Billion hotel once... McCain OWNED them HUGE DIF
I mean this post is just dumb
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:03 PM
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40. iS HE PAYING $8 MILLION TO STAY THERE? OR IS what
the house is WORTH? MAJOR DIFFERENCE!!
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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:06 PM
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41. Do you have a link?
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:08 PM
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42. i JUST READ, he is renting it with two other families
so, it will be around $1,300 per day.. that' not a bad deal.. the media is so screw up.. why doesnt' th emedia tell the WHOLE STORY? they report as if Obama is paying $8 million.!!...

jack assesss....

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