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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:12 PM
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This is the most famous radio ever made


Why?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:14 PM
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1. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
It's a 'gated' radio. :D
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:15 PM
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3. Kind of.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:15 PM
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2. Um. It made a sex tape with Paris Hilton?
:shrug:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:15 PM
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4. Nope. It's older than she is.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:16 PM
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5. That is the actual Watergate receiver: tagged as evidence by the FBI.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:21 PM
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7. Exactly
I tripped out when I learned this fun fact about this manufacturer's radios: The dress code for the assembly line workers (all of whom were women) called for nice dresses and heels, out of respect for the work these receivers were to do.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:43 PM
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10. Rain on parade moment:
Not so fun for the workers forced to work an assembly line shift in freaking heels...
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:04 AM
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28. They sat at desks when they made the receivers
For the entire lifespan of the company pre-BAE Systems (it started out as Communications-Electronics Inc., then became the CEI Division of Watkins-Johnson Inc.) each device--they made many kinds--was built by one person. You sat in a good chair when you did it, someone brought you a cart full of components, and you built the device yourself. Wearing heels all day wouldn't tear you up.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:39 PM
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40. Thank you for that clarification n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:50 PM
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13. A man made that rule. nt
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:19 AM
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20. Why do you seem to hate men so much? Did a man hurt you badly?
lots of your posts seeth with blame for men. On another post you made the claim that ex's wife's never murder their husband's with no proof.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:26 AM
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23. You've never worn heels. nt
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:04 AM
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29. I can imagine wearing heels at work is not easy. Can you admit that not all men are the same? nt
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 10:06 AM by cabluedem
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:32 AM
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24. Mookie is right
Unless they were sitting, working an 8 hour shift in heels would be painful. Have you ever worn them?
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:11 AM
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31. No, I dont wear heels. Just pointing out that not all men are cruel or unsympathatic as some think.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:44 PM
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41. I don't recall seeing where she blamed all men for this rule
But I am glad to know that there are folks here ready to jump at the slightest suggestion at an attack on all men, everywhere. Thanks for holding up your end!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:22 PM
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16. Mostly women, not all though.
I worked on the Watkins-Johnson assembly line when I lived in Maryland. It was in the years just prior to the Watergate break-in. I may have worked on that actual device.

No shit! We built really good stuff. :smoke:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:10 AM
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30. I used many of the devices you built
Your stuff didn't wear out, so we still used it. Why the hell not? There are LOTS of things you can do with a good-sounding, sensitive receiver, and old WJs are definitely that. I want one for personal use.
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:04 PM
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39. Yes, we Americans, women and men, can build things that last..
I have a refrigerator
built in the 50's that still works fine.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:50 AM
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25. I don't remember all the women wearing heels and dresses.
Seriously, where did you hear that? I worked for Watkins-Johnson in the early 70's. There were a lot of women on the line, but I had a lot of male co-workers as well. I don't remember any particular dress code other than the protective gear worn in the clean rooms that were used for some assembly.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:22 AM
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33. I heard it from the man who invented the WJ-8610 receiver


Turns out it wasn't official, but everyone did it, and it was done before the WJ purchase of CEI.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:48 AM
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37. Interesting..
I remember years after Watergate when I found out that it was a W-J receiver, and I thought "Holy Shit!, I may have worked on that thing."

I did mostly front panel assembly at Watkins-Johnson. Had a NASA soldering certification. I went on to work at the Goddard Space flight Center for various contractors, then started building stage sound and lighting systems, and wound up out on road tours with most of my favorite bands. Damn, those were fun years! :smoke:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:19 PM
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6. "One small step for man..."
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:26 PM
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8. I peeked at the photo Properties - Wow!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:27 PM
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9. Cheater!
(I wish I had thought of that...)

:hi:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:47 PM
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11. If you were a spook or signal corp, this was the most famous radio.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:59 PM
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14. Haven't seen one of those since 'A' school.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:11 PM
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15. Did mine at Devens
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:59 AM
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26. I did ASA ARDF training at Devens in 1970 ..
What I did, I cannot say.
I was with the ASA.


(XYZ in Viet Nam)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:55 AM
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38. 05h20 Devens, from there to ETS at Kagnew Station Asmara Eritrea. Back then
it was still part of Ethiopia. We did more than copy dits.


85 ft dish




150 ft dish



Driving down or riding a bicycle down this road was a real gas


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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:58 PM
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43. Park Street Diner?
Luigi's Piza? (strip mall outside the gate.)

Cloverleaf Pizza? (across from Feltus Pontiac)

Mohawk Club? (Shirley)

Honest Francis, the Poor Man's Friend? (used cars)

All 50s-60s and long gone.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 06:52 PM
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48. The Mohawk was there in 1982...
When I went to BNCOC at Devens, I did a stint as Charge of Quarters in one of the trainee barracks--where I accidentally got in a Boot Polishing Contest with a whole slew of trainees. Anyway, while we were polishing I started singing the classic 05G cadence, "Hey there Billy Boy where ya been / Down at the Mohawk drinkin' gin / Whatcha gonna do when you get back? / Puke it all up and go right back." These poor souls looked at me real weird--first, they don't sing songs about drinking in AIT anymore, and second, the Mohawk closed a long time ago.

And then there was WAAF...now it's in Boston, but it used to be in the Cocaine Realty Building in Worcester. And I'm like naaaaaah...turns out there's a Cocaine family in Worcester, and they're in the real estate business. (Go to opensecrets.org and search for Cocaine...Mary Cocaine gave $250 to Niki Tsongas in 2008.

Oh yes...remember Parthenon Pizza?
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 07:38 PM
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49. Don't remember Parthenon Pizza. Town?
I know a niece of Stanley's (Mohawk owner) and if I remember correctly,
he passed away afew years ago.
Cloverleaf Pizza was owned by a relative of mine.
The lineup of used cars at Feltus Pontiac each had keys in the ashtray.
Us kids would fire them up, listen to the radio and eat pizza.
Imagine that today, every car would be gone before sunrise!
Luigi was a Golden Gloves fighter.
I saw a Mercedes 300SL Gull Wing Coup at the Millstream Bar.
The good old days!
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:04 AM
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19. Wow! I haven't seen one of those since the 60s.
I was stationed at a small NATO base in Turkey in the early 60s and that's the radio we used to listen to the news. Am I old or what?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:32 AM
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21. Certainly not Sinop, that was ASA.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:35 AM
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22. ASA no longer exists - I guess I was one of the last.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 08:38 AM by ThomWV
509th Radio Research Group ->313th ->Other
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:02 AM
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27. I was in the 509th RRG!
224 Avn Bn, 1st Radio Research Company (AVN) at Cam Ranh Bay
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:29 AM
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34. 4th USASAFS


I met some of the newer INSCOM guys, they weren't the same as the men of the lightning fast chicken fuckers.





When Michela Wrong did a book on Eritrea, she did a chapter on us. She included one image: the one of the bridge. I know all the guys on the bridge, but don't recognize them from that angle.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:20 AM
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32. Ah yes, the R-390. Fantastic radio.
I remember the running cadence the 33's used to sing at Fort Devens...

R-390 sittin' on the bench
Thirty-three sierra with an itty-bitty wrench
Kick it, bang it, shove it on the floor
R-390 comes back for more.


I used to know this ancient master sergeant who was hacking dits when the Army still used that receiver. When they removed it from service and sent them to DRMO, he bought six of them. Then he went to JAG and had them put in his will that he was to be buried in an R-390--he wanted them to cremate him, put his ashes in an R-390 then bury the receiver. He was only about 900 years old when I knew him, so I would assume they did it by now.

The problem with the R-390 in this case, is an R-390 never tried to take down the Republican Party.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:31 AM
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35. No, they were fiercely independent.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:49 PM
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12. Looks like the radio on the historic sub I volunteer on. nt
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:44 PM
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17. Followed the link to the original site hosting the pics....
would love to have one of the suitcase receivers.
Especially the one with the built in o-scope.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:47 PM
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18. Well, check some of this stuff:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:54 PM
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42. Some of those Icoms look pretty damn sweet
This was supposed to be a hell of a receiver...



Tuning it would have been really weird, though, because it has four tuning knobs--for 10 MHz, 1MHz, 100KHz and 10KHz increments. Their radios were mostly for shipboard use in the radio room, so apparently there's a good reason for the way the radio's designed.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:15 PM
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45. Four tuning knobs .. hmmm.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 02:17 PM by DemoTex
When fine-tuning with the 10KHz knob in heavy seas a jolt wouldn't knock the gross tuning off, like sometimes happens with single-knob tuning. Or, when sailing after a port-call binge Sparky's shaky hand could set the gross tuning knobs and concentrate on the 10KHZ tuning (like the anecdote in "Perfect Storm" about the captain who served only sandwiches for the first two days at sea because his hungover crews' hands were too shaky to hold a fork or spoon).



The ICOM 756PRO-II in my all-Icom radio shack (ca. 2005)
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:50 PM
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47. Nice scope on that rig...
Does that show transmitted spectrum, a panoramic display of the received spectrum, or both?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:40 AM
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36. This is the one I want...


The glorious Watkins-Johnson 8617. IIRC it is the first receiver the electronics industry ever made that didn't mechanically couple the tuning knob to anything. It's hooked to a plastic disc with printed lines on it, and there are two optical sensors to detect its motion--somehow or another it could figure out whether you were turning it clockwise or counterclockwise so it searched in the right direction.

This...



is the receiver I humped for two years at Fort Campbell. Someone put a lot of forethought into the ergonomics of this receiver. The knobs are all different shapes so you can adjust the radio by feel. There are two other boxes that go with it to turn it into a direction finder--those we did not have at Ft. Campbell, but we had them at Ft. Drum. The receiver weighs 40 pounds with no batteries, so hauling it around on your back is a definite workout. The slickest part of this receiver was it used the same batteries as the old PRC-77 infantry radio, so there was no bitching from supported unit commanders and supply sergeants about those MI pussies needing special things just for them--you just called up for some "prick-77" batteries and C-rats, and they figured you were some lieutenant's RTO. Some really fucking talkative lieutenant's RTO, because the WJ-8640 went through batteries about twice as fast as a PRC-77 did.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:03 PM
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44. the MOST famous? doubtful.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 02:03 PM by QuestionAll
if you showed it to 500 average americans, how many would recognize what it is, or even know that a radio transceiver was used in the watergate break-in...? i'm guessing that it would be less than 1%.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 04:38 PM
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46. Depends on how you measure fame. Measured another way, this might be "most famous".
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