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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:32 PM
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Did Bristol have that baby?
It was due on the 18th, how far overdue do they let women go these days?
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:34 PM
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1. Not all apples fall from the tree at the same time

I had a friend who went 10 months. Not 40 weeks.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:36 PM
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3. That's probably Bristol's problem. nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:35 PM
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2. My sister in law was over a month late with her second child
and I know that with first children they can come later than expected.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:38 PM
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4. And second children come on time. nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:48 PM
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8. This second child came 4 days early
during suppertime, when Mom was left in a hallway in the hospital, unattended, one foot in the stirrup, the other down. She says she felt me coming and started screaming. I've always been early for everything, it seems. :)
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Sisaruus Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:36 PM
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19. My 2nd was 3 weeks late.
The first was 3 weeks early.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:26 AM
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25. Not mine.
Both of my children arrived over a week earlier than their due date.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:32 AM
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36. Indeed, they do, often
:evilgrin:

I've left this topic far behind because it did what we needed. It got the main stream media whores to do their job but there is a part of me that enjoys being right and yes, this second pregnancy is likely to go 48-52 weeks. Strange thing that.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:42 PM
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5. our experience was reversed
my wife had 28 minutes of labor with our first child and thirteen and a half hours of labor with the second!!!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:27 PM
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18. Are you serious?
My OB induced after I was 10 days after my due date. We had quiet a lengthy discussion,
and my OB said that he never allows a mother to go 2 weeks past her due date, because it
is unhealthy for the baby.

I worked as a volunteer in a maternity ward, and I've never heard of a woman giving birth
a month after her due date.

Do you know why they allowed the pregnancy to continue that long?

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 12:04 AM
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21. I bet the only reason is uncertainty of conception date. Yes, it is
too long. The placenta doesn't last forever.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:42 AM
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32. I was thinking the same thing. The doctors could not have thought it was really a month overdue.
That would be medical malpractice.
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applejuice Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:08 AM
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34. Seriously, the doctors must have thought the dates were wrong.
They will never leave a baby a MONTH after it was due. Two weeks is the limit.

Maybe the dates were about two weeks out and then they left it a further two weeks equaling a month in all.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 12:08 AM
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23. Some OBs are pretty induction happy.
They can do a non-stress test to check for degradation of the placenta, if needed. Inductions really shouldn't be done in non-emergency situations, because they greatly increase the risks of any number of unfavorable outcomes.

Mine was a month late. Other than being pretty enormous, (10 lbs, 24" long) nothing was in any way worrisome or non-routine. Oh, except that there was a little mec in the fluid, but that's normal with postdates babies.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:41 AM
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31. Yes, they are

It's easier for them to induce than to make an assessment of what's going on.

Ditto c-sections. For a variety of non-medical reasons, they'd rather cut than wait.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:44 PM
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6. The kid's probly trying to hang on until after the wedding.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:45 PM
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7. Didn't Discovery Channel already do a special on the
longest pregnancy in history?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:50 AM
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37. Maybe Bristol is in the middle of a speech?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:54 PM
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9. It is possible to go too long. Depletion of placenta could be a risk.
I don't know of any OBGYNs that allow pregnancy to continue beyond 42 weeks, at least not without a stress test, ultrasound, etc. They'd try inducing labor.
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NoQuarter Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:06 PM
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10. Has anyone even seen Bristol lately?
I mean if her mother wants to have any political credibility in the future, she would be shoving her pre-maritally preggers progeny in our faces 24-7 just to prove all the "haters" wrong.

So far, crickets.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:30 AM
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29. Yeah, she is over at her grandparents' house with all the loot sent to her from around the world
for "the baby". Yes, really. Hey, Sarah, don't ya think that all those people from around the world who have sent gifts deserve to actually SEE this baby????? Or maybe you just need to get a "return to sender" stamp.

http://www.grandparents.com/gp/content/newsoftheday/news/article/a-chat-with-sarah-palins-dad.html

Grandparents.com: How's the family getting ready?
Chuck Heath: For Bristol's baby? Oh, I don't know. all kinds of gifts laying around the place — all kinds of baby stuff. I’m in a room right now just full of baby stuff — more than she'll ever use.

GP: From all over the country?
CH: All over the world. I'd say a half-dozen foreign countries.
In Sarah's mailroom, there's 87 boxes — big boxes of mail that haven't even been opened. I've been answering letters all day, all week. We figure there's over a hundred thousand pieces here. And we'll never get it done. We're just inundated.

(snip)

GP: What kind of grandmother do you think your daughter will be?
CH: My daughter will be a great grandmother. She's a great mother — great daughter, great mother. I don't know about how much time she can spend, she's so busy. But she'll get her licks in. Don't worry.


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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:42 AM
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33. Believe it or not...

Some people do not run their lives as an experiment in disproving internet conspiracy theories.

That is a generally applicable principle.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:18 PM
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11. What did Bristol do?
I don't understand the continuing fascination with Bristol and her pregnancy.

Just a few days ago, some on here were bemoaning that Bristol was delaying the birth until Christmas day.

Funny....nobody seems to have noticed how wrong they were!

One of the many things I thought ill about Sarah Palin was accepting the nomination knowing her DAUGHTER was going to get placed into the national spotlight as a result.

Well, the election is over. Got it yet?

What is wrong with people who want to continue this paraparatzi obsession with her pregnancy?

Let. Her. Be.

She is a woman. She is having a baby. What has SHE done to incur our wrath or morbid curiosity? Did she choose her mother?

I would like to know how any Democratic supporter of women's rights can with a straight face treat her this way?

Get friggin over it.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:23 PM
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12. Bristol was used to deceive the country
the consequence of that deception is more apparent every day.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:28 PM
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16. A shining example of "values" RWingers try to shove down our throats
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 09:28 PM by Lastlaughin08
And lies her misfit family tried to sell to the American public.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:24 AM
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50. Ah the mantra! Could it also be that we have a mother to be that is being insulted as a woman....
who just wanted to have a baby in peace but some gossip-minded liberals find it necessary to pry into her personal life? Gees, this is almost like the gossip-minded conservatives! I hate gossip, even more embarrassing when Democrats do it! What ever happened to a woman's right to privacy?
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:28 AM
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52. Please be more specific! In what way did Bristol (not her parent) deceive?
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 12:29 AM by earthlover
What is your evidence?

I really don't understand the interest, one way or another, in her pregnancy. Who cares? Who cares if it was early, late, or on time?

Ask yourself this....if she was a Democrat would you have the same "concerns" about her?
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 12:02 AM
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20. It's because we don't believe she's HAVING a baby (or that this is her second baby) ...
If Sarah Palin was lying about Trig being her child (if he's really her grandchild) ... and if she used her daughter to cover up that lie, then Sarah should get a good ass-kicking.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:20 AM
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49. and your evidence?
give me a break! Sounds like you are into gossip. I am not.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 12:08 AM
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22. I have to admit a bit of curiosity
Never really cared too much about the "politics" of Bristol's pregnancy, figured that was kind of out of bounds. But hey, can't blame someone for plain ordinary curiosity.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:31 PM
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13. "that baby". LOL. n/t
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:10 PM
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14. My cousin Catherine arrived a month late.
Her mom moved in with us, for "a few days", to be next to her gyno. Recently Catherine asked if she could move in to my old guest house where her mom stayed 30 years ago.

I said sure. But you have to move out SOME TIME!!!:smoke:

Seriously Trig's birth plus 10months. = new baby.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:15 PM
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15. SOP is to deliver by 42 weeks (if dates are pretty sure).
There are significant risks for post-dates babies.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 12:09 AM
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24. I've always heard 38 weeks from conception or 40 weeks from last period.
The calculation of time since last menstruation, of course, assumes regular (28-day) and 'normal' menstruation.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:38 AM
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26. That's time to EDC. Term is any time within two weeks of EDC either direction.
Technically baby's not late until 42 weeks. At that point it's time to start talking about doing a non-stress test, but it shouldn't be automatic to schedule an induction.
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applejuice Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:18 AM
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35. Well, let's hope that Bristol is getting better medical care than Mama sought out then.
I hope she is getting a stress test etc. Mama Palin apparently wandered around Texas and took a long plane ride after her waters had already broken with Trig's birth. This was with a known high needs pregnancy.

I'm all for not using unnecessary medical interventions and unecessary C-sections (I was in a hospital with doctors on call, but used birthing pools and midwives etc for my three births. My oldest was 2 weeks late and we didn't induce.) but I was worried by a lot that I read about what apparently went on with Trig's birth.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:17 PM
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17. Did Bristol marry that drug dealer's son?
You know, the redneck highschool dropout.

Did he marry Baby Puck's momma?

Will Granny be in jail when Little Puck is born?

Real Americans have great family values, don't they.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:05 PM
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40. Well, when you put it THAT way...
:rofl: Good one!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:14 AM
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27. Who gives a flying fuck?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:22 AM
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28. I was over a week late n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:37 AM
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30. "Due dates" are not like the expiration dates on milk cartons
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 02:49 AM by jberryhill
They are simply estimates of a highly variable process.

Provided that nothing has gone wrong, babies are born when they are good & ready to be born, just as has been going on for millenia.

It's one thing that most living organisms are capable of doing without much interference from anyone or anything else.

And, yet again, some people will not be happy until a 24 hour live webcam is mounted to the crotch of a 17 year old girl in Alaska. Medical privacy means nothing to these people.

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 09:12 AM
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38. Although I disagree with what is being done I understand why it's being done..
The whole point is that Sarah Palin wishes to strip medical privacy from Americans in some ways.


It's completely unfair to drag her daughter into this but it's also completely predictable human behavior and Sarah Palin initiated it.

Keep in mind that we saw this young lady feted at the RNC and held out as a good example to the rest of our children and grandchildren.

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 04:47 PM
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39. So what?
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 04:48 PM by jberryhill
Was it Bristol's choice to have her uterus be the subject of national commentary?

No.

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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:18 PM
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41. ok, I will weigh in, being that i find palin and her family immensely
fascinating in this weird stalker way.

I agreed that Bristol deserves privacy, but palin put her family in the public eye, so we should at least get the where/what/whens on the birth, I think we are owed that, and I am sure some will argue we are not.

Also, being that Bristol and Levi have no visible means of support, other then their parents, they might make some good money f(or a fresh start in life) by selling some photos. And while I am all for giving the young couple some space (if they are a couple) they must understand, like it or not, they have a public profile now, so anything, good or bad, might be played out on a public stage.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 06:29 PM
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45. I read that Levi
dropped out of school and is off working on the north slope somewhere. So much for being around for the birth of the child that gave him access to the Republican Convention complete with a standing ovation and a hug from John Mccain. Way to go.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 06:38 PM
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47. wow!
sounds like the wedding is off, then. wow oh wow
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:51 PM
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42. a 17-year-old who is 9 1/2 months pregnant--
--is not a happy camper. But on the bright side, thank goodness none of the Palin children ever seems to go to school and none of the men hold down a job. So the baby will have plenty of people to look after him (or her).
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:53 PM
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43. I heard her water broke last week sometime....
She's trying to decide which airline to take and where to take it to.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 06:25 PM
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44. now that I can appreciate!
}( }( :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :applause: :applause:
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 06:31 PM
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46. What the hell should I care?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 07:25 PM
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48. Give the poor girl a break.. Her first baby was a preemie..probably born in late Feb
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 07:25 PM by SoCalDem
and swaddled inside Gramma's house until she could convince people that she was pregnant-looking enough to have a "re-birthing/branding" in April.. Bristol probably did not even get pregnant again until April..which makes her due date in January..you know... "around the Xmas holiday"... The Palin family only has ONE "date-certain" event..The day that Tracksuit joined up..SEPTEMBER ELEVEN...

ALL other days are "about","around", sorta, kinda days..

Bristlecone's baby will probably weigh in at 7.5-8 lb, and be a fullterm mid-January baby...an "Irish twin" to his older brother Trig... Hey,,.maybe she won;t name him Wrangler Levi Toughskin after all.. She should call him Calc..and then when she gets her GED in 2016, she can apply to college and say she's studied Trig & Calc.. The YOUUESSAY needs math majors :)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:27 AM
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51. My continuing theory is that she isn't currently pregnant
That it was all a ruse so that when she tragically fails to delivery a healthy/living baby in December, her mom will so kindheartedly let her and Levi "adopt" baby Trig as a consolation prize (which, after all, is really her baby anyway)
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