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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:53 PM
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JUST when you think Palin can't make herself look like more of an idiot
Apparently, along with not knowing the job description of a VP, she also doesn't know the job description of an Alaskan governor:


http://www.themudflats.net/2008/12/27/palin-and-her-understanding-of-senatorial-succession-a-little-odd/

PALIN:I met yesterday with Sen.-elect Begich to see that we are on the same page as we move forward as he starts his new job representing Alaska.

I thought that Sen. Stevens was going to be re-elected, and it was so close, and that if he were to step aside because he was convicted , then I would get to appoint a Republican. So I was kind of surprised at the outcome there.

(snip)
We saw the writing on the wall. And to make a very long story short, the issue made it to the ballot. Should Alaskans continue to allow Senators to appoint their replacements, thereby assuring the continuity of representation in the Senate? Or should voters hold a special election, foregoing the continuity, in favor of keeping control over who actually gets the seat.

The special election won hands down. The governor was stripped of the power of appointment. And during the same election that this ballot measure passed, Lisa Murkowski was re-elected to the seat. Go figure. But nonetheless, the law was writ, and everybody who wasn’t living in a cave knew it.

(snip)

I’ll tell you what it all meant. It meant that Sarah Palin has not been paying attention to some incredibly basic aspects of Alaska government, and hasn’t been since at least 2002 when Murkowski the Younger was appointed to the Senate. She also wasn’t paying attention in 2004, when the law was changed. She also wasn’t paying attention in 2008 when every national news media was asking whether she had the power to appoint, and the answer was no.

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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:54 PM
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1. Actually, I was pretty certain more idiocy was in the offing.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:59 PM
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2. I don't think it ends here, either.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:55 AM
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22. too bad it didn't happen and she didn't get a chance to share her
superior knowledge about what a G.O.V. does all day.
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:59 PM
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3. Well she is the governor of the state of which she is the executive of the governor is also.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:07 PM
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5. heehee
Very good Palinese. :thumbsup:
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:25 PM
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8. I'm sorry...you didn't end that quite correctly.
It should've been well she is the governor of the state of which she is the executive of the governor is also too. :evilgrin:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:07 PM
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4. I feel for the people of Alaska.
Here I thought we Californians had the most embarrassing piece-of-navel-lint governor in the country. I was wrong.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:16 PM
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6. You got a close second
Did I lose my mind for a bit last week, or was there actually an interview with that dingbat of yours in which he wished that the Constitution could be changed so that he could run for President?

I really, really hope I lost my mind and imagined that one.

If not, I'll just continue praying for you and my friends and family who dwell in what used to be the Golden State.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:29 PM
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9. Don't know if he said it recently but it wouldn't be the first time he suggested it.
I hope he goes back to acting after this term as governor. Some are suggesting that he may make a senate run.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:36 PM
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11. He did..in an interview on 60 Minutes last week
Now if we could just change the Constitution to protect us from Palin running again...surely there is SOMEthing in the fine print....
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 07:45 PM
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37. There are a lot of really poor governors in this country.
Ours have a nasty habit of winding up in jail (Illinois).
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oldnslo Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:21 PM
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7. I've been expecting, and continue to expect still more
I don't think the well is anywhere near dry with Scarah . Her Idiocy, or is the modern spelling idiocity, knows no bounds and constantly needs outlets. They will come, YOU BETCHA!
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:32 PM
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10. I'm sitting here unemployed and this dumb ass woman is the governor
of a state.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:42 PM
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12. I know
:shrug:

:puke:


:cry:


...and Phil Spector is married again.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:49 PM
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13. Oh, I knew she wouldn't disappoint.
:rofl:
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:19 PM
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14. If it were possible, I would almost feel sorry for her.
I am becoming convinced that she is living in some fantasy world and is totally clueless to reality.
But more so I have sympathy for the Alaskans who have her as their leader...the ones that can think must be so embarrassed..
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 12:48 AM
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17. Of course she is.
Growing up embalmed by the Religion that she is into, she wouldn't have to know anything except that the world is going to end and she is supposed to help it end.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:40 AM
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21. I have a girlfriend who lives in Alaska with her husband and he is almost unredeemable.
He sent around this email a couple of months ago extolling palin's virtues - how wonderful it was that she liked snowboarding and could field-dress a moose. WOW. That sure qualifies her to be president, dontchathink? But he was ga-ga about it. Thought she was utterly FABULOUS. By the end of election season, fortunately, my girlfriend (his wife) was starting to have second thoughts. Don't know what she sees in this guy...

People like him, jingoistic, narrow-minded, knuckledragger troglodytes who invite this shit and help sustain it with their utterly idiotic, head-up-the-ass voter preferences, get no sympathy from me. I tend not to be very sympathetic when it comes to problems that are self-inflicted.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 10:10 AM
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26. "As America saw more of Palin, her popularity faded"
That is from the local Wasilla area paper website today. Looks like they are in need of a new editor. It should have read "The more Palin opened her mouth and spoke...."
As someone living in Texas, I feel for Alaskans..it sucks to have one dumbassed pol/gov make the country think everyone from that state is also a dumbass.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AK_YEAR_IN_REVIEW_AKOL-?SITE=AKWTF&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Palin - exuding beauty, confidence and energy - electrified the Republican base and gave McCain, for a time, what he needed most - a campaign boost.

As America saw more of Palin, her popularity faded, but she kept a fierce cadre of defenders who said she remained just what the country needed - a maverick who along with McCain would change politics as usual in Washington, D.C.

At home, the popular governor found some of her support gone. Some Alaskans felt that national politics had changed Palin from the personable Sarah they knew into McCain's pitbull. Some resented the conservative picture Palin presented to the country of what it means to be a real Alaskan.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:19 PM
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27. Well, I hope most Alaskans are a little more clear-eyed than my friend's husband.
He's just completely hopeless. Thinks she's ready to be president because she's outdoorsy and can field-dress a moose.

CRIMINY!!!!!!!!!!! And I'M fit to be president because I can do my own nails and make good chocolate chip cookies, according to that lame-ass reasoning.

The only voices I heard from Alaska trying to tell the truth or even trying to CONSIDER the truth (as my girlfriend indicated in one of her emails as the election got close - and she obviously knew her husband didn't know what she was writing to me) were stifled and suppressed - like the waitress who said she'd heard the Tundra Tart say "Sambo beat the bitch" in a coffee shop with a bunch of her cronies at table with her - all snickering. And the waitress was fearful for her job and balked at coming forward, according to the investigative reporter who wrote about this and was thus unable to pursue it farther.

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/

( BTW - Snopes.com reports it can't confirm or debunk this:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/sambo.asp )

Reminds me of the suppression that was imposed on many of us who tried to get the truth out about the war itself and the run-up to it, and how WE were silenced, too.

And I do have to admit, I have some of those misgivings also. I find myself wondering WTF voters in Alaska saw in her that allowed them to be taken in, or WTF voters in Texas saw in tom delay or george bush or any other of those schmucks that Texas turned out. Then again, we had Arnold forced upon us out here, too. Another WTF for sure, although I suspect that the luster of his movie-stardom simply blinded a lot of people. They see what they want to see, I guess, not that it has much bearing on reality.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:05 PM
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30. Sarah won the governor's seat by contrast with her predecessor.
If you had been here when Frank "the Bank" Murkowski was governor, and if you had witnessed how Sarah actually did blow the whistle on some of the corruption in his administration, you would have understood how it was that she was able to win. Tony Knowles, her Democratic opponent, was generally seen as a "has-been," and Andy Halcro, her Independent opponent, just didn't have enough support to defeat her -- although he was one of the first to recognize her weaknesses.

I didn't vote for her, of course, but from all appearances she wasn't doing too bad a job as governor. Her demeanor on the campaign trail was positively shocking to most of us; we had never seen this side of her.

I will never trust her again. She's a two-faced lying b****, and even when she seems to do something right, I know it's only for her self-aggrandizement.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:05 PM
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32. I appreciate your perspective, because all I have is from here in California.
I don't know how ANYONE could NOT see her as mean, divisive, shrill, mean, willfully ignorant, deliberately hurtful, hate-mongering, and - uh - did I mention MEAN? The mean-spirited speeches she made from her convention appearance onward just were BEYOND total turn-off for me. And the hatred she deliberately and repeatedly tried to stir up among her followers - who were fired up by her "he's been palling around with TERRRRRRRRists" shrieks - to shout "kill him" and "terrorist" and other outright murderous things - TRULY, Blue_In_AK, I do NOT see how ANYONE could support that. I felt very strongly, while suffering through some of those speeches, that she was DELIBERATELY trying to get Barack Obama killed. And I will go to my grave believing that.

If anything, she proved, to me, to be every bit as much of a domestic terrorist as she accused Bill Ayers of being.

I wonder if enough of your fellow Alaskans have had their eyes sufficiently opened about her - whether she's gonna win a second term. Frankly, I'm not too optimistic. I'm certain my friend's husband is one of those, but then he NEVER had his eyes open - from the get-go. As I said originally - he's hopeless. Completely unredeemable. A knuckle-dragger of the first order.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 06:10 PM
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35. The mean, divisive, shrill, hate-mongering Sarah
had been under wraps during her first two years as governor. As a matter of fact, her popularity rating was higher among Democrats than the old-line Republicans because of some of her more populist positions. Tacking the extra $1200 onto the permanent fund dividend this year didn't hurt either, although it brought out the cries of "socialist" from the fiscal conservatives. Her strongest allies in the legislature were the Dems. That's why we were all so shocked by how she acted down there. I fully expected when I sat down to watch her convention speech that she would display her agreeable, friendly, "can't we all get along" self, but I knew after about the first three sentences that she had been "Roved." I couldn't even watch the whole thing -- and then it just went downhill from there.

Now I can't help but feel that she was playing us here in an effort to boost her popularity all along because she had far grander things in mind. That's why I will never trust her again. She's been talking about increasing funds for Denali Kid Care (our SCHIP program) and Head Start, which ordinarily I would cheer, but now I know she's only looking toward 2012.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:30 PM
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15. What a fucking idiot.
Please keep reporting on her GOP-controlled media!

LOL!

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:47 PM
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16. Oh. You mean Palin wasn't just a bad nightmare?
With the election being nearly 2 months behind us, it's jarring to be reminded of
Palin's clownery.

I seriously think that I have repressed most of the memories I have of Palin during
the 08 campaign. I mean really. It was so painful to watch such a complete buffoon
and her hillbilly, trash family thrust in front of the cameras. To think that these
people got so close to the White House...boggles the mind.

Her stupidity knows no limits. I seriously hope that America had time to really think
about what an embarrassment she is.

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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:14 AM
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18. The news makes her depressed
That could be why she doesn't know it, it makes her sad to see the news and her handlers try to protect her from it.

Imagine this dimwit in charge of the military and economy.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:13 AM
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19. The "gotcha media" strikes again
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 03:15 AM by jberryhill
Well, you know, I was answerin a question shouted from across a room, and some people in the media want to make it seem as if we don't have laws and things like that also up here in Alaska, and that comment was sort of - carrot - reporters! Yeah.

But I read most of the laws, all of them really, you know, whatever laws they put in front of me. I've been spearheadin the efforts at reformin the laws there also, you know, just like that great reformer and genuine American hero John McCain, and doin great things for this country and especially those parts of the country that are in those American parts of Alaska.

I'll go git some and bringem tooyah!

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:29 AM
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20. You forgot to say "maverick."
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 04:00 AM
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23. I was going to say it, but I decided to be all mavericky and shake things up there also /nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 04:18 AM
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24. pretty typical repuke
utterly clueless
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 09:08 AM
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25. The grift that keeps on giving.
or the gift that keeps on grifting?

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:37 PM
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28. "I would get to appoint a Republican." Poor Palin'; she truly is deeply stupid.
How very sad.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:55 PM
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29. I was rather amazed by this.
There are very few Alaskans that I know of who aren't aware of the special election provision. The whole state was in an uproar over Lisa Murkowski's appointment, and the referendum doing away with gubernatorial appointments passed overwhelmingly. There was some question at first about whether there could be interim appointments until the time a special election could be held, but our Alaska Supreme Court ruled "no."

Sarah only hears what she wants to hear.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 04:12 PM
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31. She wasn't elected for smarts, or for diligence.
She was elected for Teh Pretty, and for the simple answers she offered to complex questions. A vote for Palin was a vote against thinking, which is hard work.
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:16 PM
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33. Palin's epitaph, "In what respect, Charlieeeee?"
She was a protege of Stevens'. She got to where she is because the Republican Party, through their trademark cynicism and cunning, wanted a female they could point to as an example of their "leadership" in women's rights.

They've adhered to this pattern for many years. Palin is the female version of Clarence Thomas.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 06:15 PM
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36. More accurately she was a protegee of former governor
Wally Hickel, who had a falling out with her over the Trans-Canada deal just prior to her being picked for VP. An Alaska Dispatch article from August 14 http://alaskadispatch.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23:hickel-stands-by-his-words-stevenss-time-is-over&catid=1:talk-of-the-tundra&Itemid=12 had this to say:

At one point, Hickel expressed his unhappiness with Gov. Sarah Palin, who last month pushed the Alaska Legislature to grant Calgary-based TransCanada an exclusive state license to build a multibillion-dollar natural gas pipeline. Hickel, of course, has long favored an “all-Alaska gas line,” with the pipe running to Valdez, where the gas would be turned to liquid and shipped on refrigerated vessels. When Palin was running for governor in 2006, Hickel appeared in advertisements supporting her and the Alaska pipeline.

“I made her governor,” Hickel told me, “but when she did that deal with the Canadians, I wrote her a letter and I told her, ‘I’m never going to support you again.’ Now we’ve got to replace her."

----------

Of course, he backed down and endorsed her for VP, but I do think he has been disappointed in her. Sarah and Ted tolerate each other, but I don't think they're close. She has enemies in the Republican establishment.

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 09:43 PM
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41. Stabbed him in the back / Stabbed McCain in the back

It's the only way she advances.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:47 PM
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34. I don't know why anyone would think that in the first place.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 08:13 PM
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38. Sarah Palin is not fit to serve in government in any capacity,
or even on a PTA committee.




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MMsteezycheeze Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 08:15 PM
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39. when is her stupidity...
gonna end
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 08:36 PM
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40. Given that there is some uncertainty about Alaska's law on filling a senate vacancy
I have no doubt that Palin believes that she could name an appointment. Ultimately, the issue would have to be resolved in the courts. I believe that she'd lose, but its not certain by any means. Here is an article that explains the issue: http://www.adn.com/politics/story/569836.html
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 11:02 PM
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43. According to this piece by Andrew Halcro
the Supreme Court has decided this issue. See http://www.andrewhalcro.com/test_1
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 09:48 PM
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42. that gal is dumber than a fence post
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