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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:59 PM
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I watched "Milk" this morning. Sean Penn is BRILLIANT in this role.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 10:19 PM by BeHereNow
Don't walk, RUN to see this film.
Best work EVER by Penn, if that is possible.
He just keeps getting better.

Seriously- this is a MUST see performance and film.

BHN

On edit, I just need to add that I think Dweeb
was channeling Harvey earlier in a disappeared post tonight.
Love you Dweeb.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:02 PM
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1. Agreed ...

I saw it for the first time yesterday.

I was stunned how good this was, how good he was. I've always liked him as an actor, but with roles like this there's always an extreme danger of being too over-the-top *or* far too low-key with the characterization. Milk is a difficult character to play since he has so many sides to him, and Penn (and the writing) captured that very well I thought.

I can't imagine him not getting an Oscar for this.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:07 PM
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4. At the end of the film... the genius of the actor is evident-
When I saw the clip of Harvey Milk and realized how
completely Penn BECAME him, I was speechless.
Seriously, there are no words to describe the brilliance
of the performance.

BHN
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:19 PM
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8. I got that near the beginning ...

Coincidentally, Harvey Milk was my first exposure to the concept of homosexuality when I was a child. I was aware of him originally because some members of the family were huge Anita Bryant fans/worshipers, and his name came up at family gatherings. Then, we he was murdered, I was aware of it and remember my Grandma saying something about it that people needing to pay more attention to the words in the Bible and stop using it to justify killing people. (She didn't like Bryant ... thought she was a loudmouth with no brain. Grandma liked loudmouths. She was a loudmouth. She loathed loudmouths with no brains.)

And then I saw a documentary about him a few years later on HBO, and he intrigued me enough that I learned quite a bit about him before I was even in high school.

So, yeah ... Penn just transformed himself and remained true to the real, heroic person that Milk was. I haven't gotten over being impressed yet and likely won't.

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:27 AM
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19. He looks like Harvey too (in the movie)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:01 PM
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13. In contrast, look what he did in All the King's Men.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:15 PM
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16. I never actually saw that ...

I can't bring myself to watch movies about or based on Huey Long. They always get it wrong in my experience, and that's one of my "subjects." It's hard for me to enjoy movies I'm constantly critiquing, and I'd already heard I probably would be doing that.

None of my friends would see it with me. :)

Not good, I take it?

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:20 PM
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17. I saw previews. That was enuff. Very over the top.
Reviews said same.

The Broderick Crawford version would have fine if Mecedes McCambridge had not been so stridently overacting.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:22 PM
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18. Over the Top ...

Yup ... that's what I was expecting. This always seems to happen when that subject or era is invoked. Irksome, it is.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:05 PM
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2. Yes - to all of what you said
including the part about dweeb.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:08 PM
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5. Careful...
Know what I'm talking about?
If not, stick around.

BHN
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Hanse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:05 PM
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3. Sean Penn is great in everything.
I haven't caught Milk yet, but I just re-watched "The Assassination of Richard Nixon" last night on TV.

Catch it if you can.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:11 PM
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6. I just got home from seeing it.
I was bit let down. It's a pretty conventional treatment of a pretty unconventional character and storyline.

There's a much better ( imo) documentary called "The Times of Harvey Milk" which is based on real time footage of Milk along with interviews with most of the supporting cast real life characters in the movies you saw: Cleve Jones, etc.

"Milk" is good though. Especially if you like Sean Penn and are unlikely to ever see the documentary.

I was surprised at how filled the suburban theater was ( a definite plus) and also by the average age of the audience ( 60 ish I'd say). I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Might be nice if younger people saw it so they can figure out WTF is going on.

Without context, nothing can really be understood.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:18 PM
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7. Can't say I "like" Penn as a person- heard some pretty bad things about him as a person.
But as an actor- he's undeniably brilliant.

One of the hardest things I ever learned was that
not all great artists are nice people.
Quite the opposite.

BHN
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:23 PM
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9. I've seen the documentary ...

Documentaries are great, and that's a good one.

However, for better or worse, you introduce far more people to concepts and subjects and meaning with films like this. People that won't sit down and watch a documentary just because it is a documentary will see a movie about the same thing. And then they might watch the documentary, or they might not. Either way, they know more than they did.

I'd have a different opinion if they'd butchered the story. They didn't. It is fairly historically accurate and doesn't do nearly the kind of time compression and character composition that many movies of this type do.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:36 PM
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10. Agreed, and Josh Brolin is channeling Dan White.
Penn really is brilliant as Milk. Brolin looks so much like White it's frightening.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:50 PM
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11. I haven't seen the movie yet. . .cuz I live in the boonies and it isn't
playing anywhere near me. . .:-(. But I do have a question . . .whatever happened to Dan White, anyway? Did he kill himself?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 10:52 PM
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12. Yes- he did kill himself.
He served a ridiculously short term for
man slaughter charges and after his release,
committed suicide.

BHN
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:13 PM
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14. I don't know that he was diagnosed ...

But I've always believed he was bipolar. He showed a lot of the symptoms.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:14 PM
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15. Saw it Christmas Day
You are right. It's awesome.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:58 AM
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20. what a small world- i DRANK milk this morning.
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 02:59 AM by QuestionAll
:hi:

maybe i'll give watching it a try tomorrow.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 04:12 AM
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21. All the characters in MILK look very much like the people they play.
Victor Garber plays Mayor Moscone.

Garber was the naval architect in Titanic, Mr. Andrews.

He was the only other person in the cast I knew besides Sean Penn. (OK, so I live under a rock.)

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 05:27 AM
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22. I saw it opening night
I will happily go see it again and will be getting the DVD. Despite the tragic ending, most of the story is a joyful celebration of Harvey Milk and Sean Penn captured the man magnificently. As I said to my hubby after we got out of the film, "I know Sean Penn isn't gay nor is he Harvey Milk, but for those two hours, I forgot.".
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