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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:54 PM
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What is the role of the media?
After reading David Gregory's justification for the GOP-controlled media's (and his) failure to do their job (here), I'm wondering, what exactly is the job of the media?

What can we rightfully expect from the media?

Please post your ideas in reply and later I will make a poll based on them.

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:57 PM
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1. Report the news without editing. If the show does analysis, one minute from each side...n/t
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:00 PM
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2. Unfortunately...
..the job of the media is to make a profit for its owners.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:11 PM
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5. Media revenues come from advertising.
Thus, the 'deep pockets' of advertisers fund the media based on whatever criteria those advertisers use to provide such funding. It's NOT necessarily the cost-effectiveness of that advertising, either.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:01 PM
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3. To serve as a megaphone for the Right Wing Echo Chamber
You'll see a Return to Skepticism come January 21, even over things that seem to be settled facts. We're already getting a taste of it from the Blagojevich/Obama story. In spite of the fact that the prosecutor and Blagojevich's office both deny that there were any connections or untoward contacts with the Obama campaign and staff (as well as Obama's own denials), "questions linger" about just what that might mean. The scrutiny leveled at this non-story, applied retroactively to just about any scandal of the Bush years would be quite welcome, but it is not to be. Only Right Wing Echo Chamber points get amplified.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:08 PM
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4. Off the top of my head -
1. Publish clear, un-slanted and factual reports of international, national or local events.

2. Publish a spectrum of opinion on same, clearly cited as editorial opinion or comment.

3. Publish clear, un-slanted and factual reports of international, national or local politics.

4. Publish a spectrum of opinion on same, clearly cited as editorial opinion or comment.

5. Engage the public in regards to political participation and civic involvement, internationally, nationally or locally.

6. Serve as a bridge, when appropriate, between the public and its elected politicians and public bureaucracies.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:36 PM
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7. I don't mean to sound stupid, but ...
... does this include investigative reports?

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:19 PM
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9. Definitely. That could have been another item, I pictured it under
"Publish clear, un-slanted and factual reports of international, national or local politics."

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:52 PM
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13. Excuse me, but ...
... I think there is a slight difference between "publish(ing) clear, unslanted and factual reports ..." and investigating.

The first being more like going to a press conference and reporting what was said, the second is more like researching the hows and whys behind the event that spurred the press conference in the first place.

Reporting what was said at a press conference may be the minimum what most "news outlets" do because it costs more to do investigating.

Maybe adding the word, "in-depth" in there would satisfy both?

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:49 PM
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22. Good point. Maybe this -
Maintaining clear, un-slanted and factual public journalistic oversight of elected politicians and the public bureaucracies.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:54 PM
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26. Ni-i-ice! That covers EVERYTHING! n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:34 PM
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6. the role of the media...
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 04:35 PM by grasswire
...is to stand between the people and tyranny. How is this done? By finding and telling the truth. The press is given Constitutional protections so they may be the watchdogs of liberty.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:36 PM
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8. Would you mind ...
... posting a link or two for the lurkers?

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:21 PM
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10. Good point. I'd include the 1st amendment as a role, in regards a public press and the government.
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 05:22 PM by pinto
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:23 PM
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11. to brainwash the masses....
.. for corporate conquest? :shrug:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:28 PM
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12. See your point, yet I think the poster was looking for a 'best practices' role of the media.
Not a current critique. I may be wrong.

:shrug:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:53 PM
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14. You're right, I am! n/t
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:38 PM
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21. Cool.
:thumbsup:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:58 PM
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16. LOL! That's not what I meant!
Please see Pinto's post #12 above!

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:56 PM
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15. you have to clarify what you mean by "media"
There's a distinction between journalism and commentary, between features and reportage.

Gregory probably referred to what is generally called the "Washington press corps" or what is called "opinion leaders."

Those who report on politicians, corporations, and government must be held to a higher standard than is currently applied. A way to demand this is through the professional organizations for journalists. The Columbia Journalism Review, the Society for Professional Journalists, the National Association of Newspaper Editors, etc. etc. etc.

Another problem is that the White House Correspondents Association has become a weak-toothed pussycat, run out of the WH itself and subject to manipulation and intimidations. Credentialing for correspondents needs to be returned to the association. It was transferred to the WH press office several decades ago, giving the WH the power to deny entry and to discipline critics.

THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:03 PM
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17. Personally, I don't care what Gregory's opinion is, nor do I care what he meant.
If he can't make himself clear and understood (even after all this time working with those "word" things) I don't care to try to do his work for him.

As far as what I meant by "media", you're welcome to define it however and in as many different ways as you choose.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:28 PM
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19. why so touchy?
I thought we were having a discussion.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:51 PM
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24. Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as touchy.
And yes, you're right: we're having a discussion.

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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:04 PM
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18. I'd tell you ,however due to National Security I can't
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:34 PM
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20. 1. To inform and enlighten the American People
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 06:54 PM by Uncle Joe
as to the critical issues of the day, leave the celebrity pablum for the tabloids. The only way this can be done is for the journalists to be totally familiar with the issues, they're reporting about, pros and cons.

2. When they're interviewing political or business leaders, ask the question, then shut the hell up, until they can come up with a decent followup question. Cutting off, interjecting and dominating the mike is rude, crude and hypocritical, there is nothing free about he exchange of information when the interviewer is intent on putting their own self absorbed spin on everything. Give the American People some credit for determining political lies, by giving them all the facts and information pertinent to the issue without continuous corporate media opinion and/or propaganda. As an example, I believe Bill Moyers is the best interviewer on television today, because he asks intelligent questions and he's an outstanding listener.

3. When members of the corporate media wish to slander or libel a political leader, the rest should call them on it, instead of relying on lazy ass group think, remedial courses in critical thinking skills may aid in this endeavor. The corporate media may think they're just damaging a single political leader of whom they don't care for, but in fact they're betraying the American People's best interests and tearing down the nation. But they know this shit or they damn sure ought too. As an example, the group think slander and libel committed against Al Gore over the better part of two years prior the selection of 2000. How insane do you have to be, to believe Al Gore actually claimed to have "invented the Internet"!? That group lie cost the nation hundreds of billions if not a trillion or two dollars, countless lives, injuries, loss of world esteem and God if there is one, only knows what else. How much trouble could it have been for our so called free press to actually have given him credit for his legislative achievements, dedication and vision in championing opening up the Internet for the American People!? That episode alone more than anything exposed the corporate media's true regards for the First Amendment, they only gave a damn in so far as it benefited their own narrow corporate agenda.

4. They also shouldn't be dancing or partying with the political or business leaders of which they have the responsibility to be informing the American People about. They should keep a professional distance! The most critical reporting I expect from David Gregory at this point is that Karl Rove stepped on his toes.

5. In general I believe the corporate media are too concentrated and ironically this has only served to weaken them as a free press.



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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:53 PM
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25. Nice list. Thank you for posting. n/t
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 06:55 PM by ColbertWatcher
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:56 PM
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27. Thanks for the tip,
you could make a good editor.:)
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 07:06 PM
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29. Aww, thank you! n/t
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:50 PM
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23. 2 answers
true role: to inform the public on important issues

current role: to mislead the people
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 07:02 PM
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28. As for the journalistic media, the task SHOULD be simple:
Inform, explain, investigate. Who, what, why, when, where, how.

In the absence of publishing entities unowned and un-influenced by major corporations, mainstream media "news" is untrustworthy for anything other than weather reports, obituaries and giving sports unwarranted primacy.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 07:18 PM
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30. To compete with each other to bring us as much of the truth as possible...
...or just to entertain us.
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