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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:31 AM
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"I'm Gonna Blow Your B!*#* Off!"
According to reports, the woman had been shopping at the Berkeley Whole Foods and was returning to her car when a man approached her.

The man told her to give him all of her money. According to a Berkeley Police Department statement, a "physical and verbal altercation ensued." That is when she went into her van to get the money.

When he got into her van - she said she grabbed his gun while it was still in his hand and said, "I'm gonna blow your balls off."

She said the robber then punched her before attempting to get behind the wheel of her van in order to drive it away. That is when she began stabbing him in the leg, shoulder and neck area with scissors she had in the center console. He then got out of the van and ran away.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Im-Gonna-Blow-Your-Bxxls-Off.html
video: http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=251043

He picked on the wrong person!
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:34 AM
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1. She's not a very smart person for that matter
good thing it turned out the way it did.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:39 AM
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4. She should of just shot him
instead of warning him about her targeting the balls...
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:55 AM
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15. Bullshit. In a situation like that, where someone gets IN your car, you'd damn well better fight.
If you don't, statistics say you'll probably end up dead.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:19 AM
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23. Yep. Every expert I've heard speak on the matter says the same thing
if they try to get into your vehicle or get you into a vehicle, that's when all bets are off. Fight like hell!
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:30 AM
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26. I've thought a lot about what I would do in a similar situation
assuming the bad guy hijacked me and made me drive, that is...

I think I would probably cause an intentional accident by crashing into a tree or pole or something. Maybe even without thinking, as I'd be scared shitless and it would probably happen anyway...

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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:43 AM
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32. Why not just run off? Why in the world fight?
What are you trying to prove?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:54 AM
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39. I think a lot of it is instinctive at that point: fight or flight
My guess is that she went on autopilot. Regardless, I'm happy she got out of it alive.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:48 PM
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58. I agree, I think a coin flip happens in your head at a certain point
And fate and adrenaline pretty much takes it from there.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:21 PM
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41. What do you mean, what am I trying to prove?
You should perhaps review some stats on this topic, especially the subset where women are the victims. If you can run off, that's fine, but that's not always possible. And if you can't, you'd better fight if you want to survive. Simple as that.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:30 PM
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44. I don't mean what are YOU trying to prove
I am saying what are people that fight back trying to prove. In this case she was able to go to the car to get some money. That would tell me she wasnt in the car all the way when the attacker jumped in. It would seem like plenty of time to take off. The only reason she is alive is because the guy didn't have it in him to kill anyone (thank god). I don't care how good of a fighter you are, if you are going for someone's gun they have more than enough time to pull the trigger if they are infact willing to kill you. After she saw that he didn't pull the trigger there was no reason to keep fighting, running off would have been fine (eventhough you already made one fatal mistake). Provoking the gunman further by stubbing him is just stupid.

Being smart and alive is a lot better than being brave and dead. Just my personal opinion.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:18 PM
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59. But that's precisely the point.
If someone forces you into a car with them at gunpoint, if you DON'T fight back in some way, you'll most likely end up dead. The attacker may have been physically holding on to her, too. We don't know. But to say categorically that you should just "run off" is incredibly naive and short-sighted. Sometimes you CAN'T run off; in that case, you fight.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:53 AM
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38. I agree. NEVER get to that second destination
Kick, scream, yell, stab, run...do whatever it takes because the second destination is where people end up dead.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:11 AM
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18. She was very lucky that she wasn't killed. n/t
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:12 AM
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19. Some of us liberals ain't above kicking some ass when it's required.
:thumbsup:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:49 AM
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36. Criminals love people like you.
They call you "food"
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:32 PM
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45. Right. I smell another person that has seen waay to many movies and thinks they can fight
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 12:33 PM by no limit
Im sure you think you can snatch a gun pointed at you with your amazing kung foo skills, huh?

Pulling a trigger takes a couple milliseconds. The only reason this woman is alive is because the attacker didn't have it in him to kill anyone, he was just out for the money. If he had in fact been capable of killing this story would have turned out much different.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. You are completely correct and awesome.
And people like you, gosh darn it.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:42 PM
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47. So do you have a point?
I just pray that if anything like this every happens to you you take the smart way out, I dont want to see you on the news with the headline "tried to be a hero, now dead".
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:47 PM
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48. You don't need to pray for me. I'd rather die in a parking lot with a bullet in
my face than on a back road with my hands tied behind my back.

But that's just me.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:51 PM
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49. I see you are missing a lot of facts here
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 12:52 PM by no limit
She had enough time to get in the car to get some change, when I go to grab change from my car I never get in all the way. in addition the gun man would have to get in the car using the other door. There is opportunity number 1 to get away, she didn't take it, maybe she was afraid he would shoot, fine. She then went for the attackers gun at which point he didn't shoot. There is opporunity 2 to get away, you now know he won't shoot you, just run the fuck off. What did she decide to do instead? Provoke the gunman by stabbing him while he still had control of the gun. If you think that's an act of courage and not stupidity then I don't know what to tell you.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:11 PM
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You don't know what to tell me because you weren't there.
neither was I.

Maybe I'd have given him a cup of coffee and a shiatsu.

Maybe I'd have stabbed him in the eye with a ballpoint pen.

Maybe I'd have accessed my personal carry and ventilated him.

Maybe I'd have died on my knees begging for my hello kitty shopping bag and musette

Who's to say???


Maybe you can come to my memorial and make random generalizations about how standing one's ground is always a bad idea.

maybe.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:23 PM
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54. we have enough facts to know that this was stupid
I never said standing your ground is always a bad idea, I said it's a bad idea most of the time, especially in this case as the evidance suggests. Anyway, I think we're done here. Have a nice day and a happy new year.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:11 PM
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53. duped by a duplicate
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 01:13 PM by cliffordu
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:36 AM
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2. This never happens to me at Kroger's
I'm staying away from Whole Foods after reading this.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:37 AM
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3. The word "balls" is now unfit to print?
sorry, that's what first caught my eye. Yeah, that's probably how I would react to a robber too. The idea of someone trying to turn me into a victim makes my blood boil!
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:41 AM
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5. Off topic
You got a Maine ?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. Isn't he gorgeous?
I tell her that all the time :)
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:48 AM
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10. A big hairy one:


He's sitting on 'his" chair next to me as I type this. :-)
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:54 AM
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14. Whoa , he is GORGEOUS
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:15 AM
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20. Thanks!
I think he does fancy himself the "George Clooney of catdom". He sure likes having his photo taken, silly beast!






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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:19 AM
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22. You should see about him becoming some sort of cat model
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 11:20 AM by Marrah_G
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:29 AM
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25. Lol! That would be a great idea, but he's a total wuss around strangers
he's literally paralyzed with fear when we go to the vet. He just sits there and trembles-but they can do anything to him! He once had a cut that needed stitches and they didn't even need to hold him down; we just flipped him over on his back and the doctor stitched away while Obie shook like a leaf,too frightened to move. Poor guy!

However, his uncle and grandfather do model professionally:





:hi:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #10
29. Had a Maine much like Oberon...
What a character... and so bright.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
62. I think mine is the reincarnation of the collie I had growing up
they seem more like big, loyal dogs than cats!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #10
50. If I come to Orlando, can I come over and pet him.
He's cute. :loveya:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:35 PM
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60. Sure!
He digs belly rubs.

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mt13 Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #10
66. he is a beauty...
but i absolutely love the stuck tongue on the tuxedo!

back on topic, fight for your life!
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:55 PM
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51. My friend's Maine - Pixie


and Seasons Greeting to you all from one of my Chinchillas - Vinny

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:36 PM
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61. Beautiful!
and what big eyes Vinny has! :loveya:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:53 AM
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12. That is why I use...
"Procreative Nodules". It is also gender neutral, unless their are some eunuchs lurking. ;-)
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #12
16. Lol!
Hmmm, I might have to borrow that one. :rofl:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
42. That's a load of old
bollocks. :rofl:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:42 AM
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6. The robber is lucky he isn't singing soprano this morning
She looks like a tough cookie.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:43 AM
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7. My leg still hurts
Er, I mean...
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:43 AM
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8. Good for her!
FAr too many people are willing to become victims - and this shit increases because of it.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:52 AM
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11. WHAT DONNA SAID!!! She should've stabbed him in the balls. Sounds like she tried to.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #8
21. With the Bush economy
far more people are trying to make the rest of us victims!
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:53 AM
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13. Good for her; however, I do think it would have been great
if in fact she really had blown his balls off. }(

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #13
24. The only trouble with actually blowing his balls off...
is that there's a pretty nasty mess to clean up afterward....



Otherwise I'm all for it...

:7
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:41 AM
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31. That's where dogs come in handy.
They're usually not too fussy about what they eat. }(
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #31
34. OMG
someone with a sense of humor as warped as mine...


:rofl:

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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:48 AM
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35. Yes, I am pretty warped.
:hi:
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:10 AM
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17. Must Be Criminal Balls Wednesday!
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 11:11 AM by kanrok
Here's a video of an 88 year old woman who squeezed the balls of a naked intruder. Ironically, his name is "Michael Dick."

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/12/31/or.naked.intruder.kptv
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #17
28. And to think that just a few decades ago
Wednesday used to be Prince Spaghetti Day


what is this world coming to?


:scared:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #17
55. I wonder how many takes it took...
for that reporter to say his name without laughing?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:33 AM
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27. Good for her!
The choice she potentially faced was to die on her feet or live on her knees. She just gave criminals a little more reason to fear their prey.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #27
64. Would Have Been Better For You If She'd Used A Gun, Right? (n/t)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:39 AM
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30. I'm marking this.
It thoroughly puts lie to the myth that Liberals 'coddle criminals'.

Nicely done.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:46 AM
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33. She shouldn't have gotten in her car
she should have rolled underneath it and screamed like a crazy woman, rolling from side to side if the assailant tried to get her.

She is damned lucky she wasn't found dead in that van.

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:50 AM
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37. That's actually what they tell women to do
if they're followed or assaulted out on the street...

get under a car and roll back and forth and scream like crazy



My sisters and I used to pull that one when we were younger and we pissed off our mom...er, not the car...we'd hide under our beds and she would try to poke us out with the broomstick.

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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:26 PM
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43. LOL!!
Sounds like something me and my sisters would have done! LOL!!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:41 PM
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63. My car is pretty low to the ground
I don't think it would work with all models-or body types!

The one thing the safety experts do agree on is to never, ever get in a vehicle with an assailant. Better to take the chances she did with the gun and scissors than willing get in the vehicle!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:57 AM
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40. Where was the gun when she was stabbing him?
The account makes it sound like she still had the gun in her possession after threatening to blow his balls off. Which makes me wonder why she didn't just shoot him after he punched her and attempted to get behind the wheel.

Oh well whatever works. She done good anyway.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 04:31 PM
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65. The gun was still in his hands when she twisted it towards his balls
From video I saw she never had possession of it.

And I think she did good too. She was in the van when she was stabbing him with the scissors and he was in the driver's seat.

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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:57 PM
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52. There should be a ban on all scissors! n/t
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:46 PM
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56. Scissors don't kill people...
people kill people :)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:48 PM
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57. She should have done it, not said it.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 06:54 PM
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67. I have always sworn I will do 'X" if "Y" happens.
The truth is that I don't have any idea what I will really do.
I think it helps to have a plan in mind,but that's no guarantee.
I am as liable to shit, run or go blind as I am to do the right thing.
Most of us are I think.
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