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Wang111 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:13 PM
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George W. Bush has “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” and is severely mentally ill
George W. Bush has “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” and is severely mentally ill

“I blogged previously that Bush seems to have the characteristics of a person with narcissistic personality disorder” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/george-bush-narcissistic-personality-disorder/).

“Bush Diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1821195).

“Jerome Doolittle on Bush’s Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/04/16/jerome-doolittle-on-bushs-narcissistic-personality-disorder/).

“George Bush and NPD . . . DSM Criteria . . . A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following. . . .” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2008/06/george-bush-and.html).

“Even as a narcissist, Bush knows he isn’t a great intellect, and compensates by dismissing the value of intellect altogether” (Paul L. Minot (M.D., psychiatrist). Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.dlmweb.com/news98.html).

“Westen says professional ethics prevent him from making a diagnosis from a distance. But he says U.S. President George W. Bush ‘exudes’ narcissistic traits and ‘a kind of cockiness when he doesn’t know things’” (Sharon Kirkey. (2008, September 16). A PORTRAIT OF THE NARCISSIST. http://www.canada.com/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=d29a4b0d-029c-4ce5-b5cf-b7827c6763e6).

“Psychologically speaking, Mr. George W. Bush is what is called a ‘malignant narcissist.’ A narcissist is someone who has become hypnotized and entranced by their own inflated self-image. They have become so self-absorbed that not only are they not in genuine relation with others, but they relate to others (including the environment) as objects to satisfy their own need for self-aggrandizement. A ‘malignant’ narcissist, however, is a narcissist who reacts sadistically to others who don’t support and enable their narcissism” (Paul Levy. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/02-08-05/discussion.cgi.19.html).

People should not enable George W. Bush’s malignant narcissism.

“A Narcissist as President . . . Glenn, although your daily column and (I presume) your book accurately analyze Pres. Bush’s worldview and its consequences, there is another aspect that should be explored. had_enough’s posting, for example, points out that GWB probably exhibits narcissistic personality disorder. I think that is most certainly the case. (For those who doubt it, look up the criteria for NPD and compare to GWB’s actions.)” (formerprof. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:uGy04hR9Yk0J:letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/06/20/bush_motives/view/index18.html+george+bush+narcissistic+personality+disorder&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=30&gl=us).

“Bush suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. . . . President George W. Bush shows every sign of a mental obsession that is rendering him dysfunctional” (Bert Hyman. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://groups.google.com.mx/group/alt.health/browse_thread/thread/dabc2b26609c8cd8).

“Bush has a narcissistic personality disorder marked with authoritarian instincts, surprising ignorance, and an anti-intellectual bent that create a figure inspiring revulsion and loathing among many Americans and most of the world, AKA Bush hating” (Michael Leon. (2004, June 8). Bush the Narcissist. http://www.counterpunch.org/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.counterpunch.org/leon06082004.html).

“I hate to say it, but George Bush tends to conform quite adequately to this model of narcissism” (Molly Brogan. Retrieved November 12, 2008, http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye/msg/8483cbf0242acb46).

“What, if they say that the President has deceived the American public, the Congress, and the Senate, and that he did so, not because of any rational reasons, but due to an ‘acute narcissistic personality disorder’? . . . And that this acute narcissistic personality disorder of the President has caused unnecessary deaths of Americans and waste of billions of dollars to the US Treasury” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.shamsali.org/taj/2005/staying-course.html).

“The most disturbing aspect about narcissists, however, is their pathological inability to empathize with others, with the exception of those who either mirror them, or whom they idealize. Hence Bush’s horrifying insensitivity to the Katrina victims, his callous jokes when visiting grievously injured soldiers, and numerous other instances” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://ttiot8.livejournal.com/2542.html).

“Narcissistic personality disorder . . . George W. Bush has narcissistic personality disorder” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://reekinghavoc.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1E8F9648BDFF7E0C!1538.entry).

“George Bush’s Psychosis . . . Bush’s comments raise questions about whether Bush may suffer from what psychiatrists call a narcissistic personality disorder. This disorder has the following characteristics: arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes; sense of entitlement; preoccupation with grandiose fantasies; need for excessive admiration; a grandiose sense of self-importance; inability to recognize or identify with feelings of others; exploitation of others; and envy” (Sam Parry. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://mindprod.com/politics/bush911psychosis.html).

“Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. . . .” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.toledotalk.com/cgi-bin/tt.pl/article/24168/Is_Carty_a_Narcissist_PLEASE_Stay_on_Point/13).

“George Bush is a ” (tarantula. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.metafilter.com/43241/Narcissist-narcissism).

“Bush suffers from a classic case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (Andrew Ferguson. (2007, February 13). New York Magazine’s Head Doctors Analyze Bush: Andrew Ferguson. http://www.bloomberg.com/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_ferguson&sid=a9qSP1uqTwQw).

“George W. Bush? Definitely a sociopath, and certainly shows strong narcissistic traits as well” (Hurria. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.boomantribune.com/comments/2008/10/4/0332/29321/38).

displays several characteristics of someone who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He is cruel, lacks empathy and consistently displays patronizing and contemptuous behavior. One example is how he mockingly assigns people nicknames; Turd Blossom for Karl Rove, Pootie Poot for Putin, etc--taking a typical act of endearment to deliver a thinly disguised scornful and intimidating insult” (Jesusland Joe. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.theleftcoaster.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=4920).

“In these the conclusion is that Bush does not have antisocial personality disorder, but narcissistic personality disorder, a disorder listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, 4th Edition – Revised in the same ‘cluster’ as the antisocial personality disorder. . . .” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://nmcouncil.com/WordPress/?p=5).

“Bush’s Mental Condition . . . In this extract from his book, The Hubris Syndrome, Lord David Owen speculates on whether George W. Bush suffers from alcoholism, ADHD, narcissistic personality disorder and displays some of the symptoms of megalomania” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://addhelpsite.com/tag/george-w-bush/).

“I think the historical record demonstrates that President Bush in not a truthful person. There are many possible explanations for this, but my favorite it that he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. . . .” (pcarey. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.frostcloud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2523).

“Peter Michaelson: Uncovering the Psychological Roots of the Bush Tragedy . . . When we look deeper into Bush’s psyche, we find a self-loathing so intense that he feels the need to compensate for it through his belief that he has been especially chosen by God to be president of the United States. An idealized self-image, or a narcissistic personality disorder, or grandiose delusions are often coping mechanisms for self-loathing” (Peter Michaelson. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1520).

“Alan Bisbort echoes Van Wormer’s thought in the American Politics Journal, in an article entitled ‘Dry Drunk – Is Bush Making a Cry for Help?’ The list goes on and on. Some suggest paranoia, obsessive-compulsive disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, religious delusions and depression” (Bob Fitrakis. (2003, March 15). Sick Caesar: Remove Bush from office. http://www.freepress.org/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2003/321).

“W. Bush has a narcissistic personality disorder – this from Susan Anderson, a professor of clinical psychology at New York University” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft?person_modifier=George+W.+Bush&sort_by=relevance&page=&criteria_name=text&criteria_value=%22york+university%22&related_id=&startMonth=&startDay=&startYear=&endMonth=&endDay=&endYear=).

“Re: Bush suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder . . . Bush suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. People with narcissistic personality disorder also have difficulty recognizing the needs and feelings of others, and are dismissive, contemptuous and impatient when others share or discuss their concerns or problems. They are also oblivious to the hurtfulness of their behaviour or remarks, show an emotional coldness and a lack of reciprocal interest, exhibit envy (especially when others are accorded recognition), have an arrogant, disdainful and patronizing attitude, and are quick to blame and criticise others when their needs and expectations are not met” (gene...@xxxxxxxxx. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics.bush/2007-09/msg02055.html).

“I would like to name Bush’s illness ‘malignant egophrenic (as compared to schizophrenic) disorder,’ or ‘ME disorder,’ for short. If ME disorder goes unrecognized and is not contained, it can be very destructive, particularly if the person is in a position of power” (Paul Levy. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.serendipity.li/bush/madness.htm).

“You know, in looking at the criteria for a diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, one cannot help but think of George W. Bush” (Leisureguy. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/brainstorm/200809/getting-over-a-narcissistic-mother).

“President Bush has a Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The most powerful man on the planet is mentally ill. I am not the first to write or talk about this. I am sure that his father and mother secretly wish they had identified his problem at early age. Perhaps they just didn’t know why George Jr. was different. . . . What I have read about narcissism seems to accurately describe George W. Bush” (Posted by LS Butts. (2006, December 22). George W. Bush: Narcissist and Chief. http://justiceeroom.blogspot.com/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://justiceeroom.blogspot.com/2006/12/george-w-bush-narcissist-and-chief.html).

“What Is Wrong with George Bush? . . . From http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Narcissistic_personality_disorder: A narcissistic personality disorder . . . is characterized by an all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts. Five (or more) of the following criteria are considered necessary for the clinical diagnosis to be met. . . .” (Gregory Arnold. (2004, October 9). What Is Wrong with George Bush? http://www.political-commentary.com/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.political-commentary.com/home/2004/10/what_is_wrong_w.html).

“Because George Bush is that narcissistic, that desperate, and yes, that sociopathic as well” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.liberalrapture.com/2007/09/bush-and-oj.html).

“Unfortunately, President George W. Bush is a very good example of narcissistic personality disorder at this pathological level of functioning. He is overly sensitive to criticism, surrounds himself with those who will reinforce his grandiose sense of the false-hero-self (butt-kissers), lacks empathy, displays a restricted range of affect in general but is sometimes given to bouts of acting-out (through rage or drinking, in his case), is manipulative, interpersonally exploitive, compulsively lies to do so, demonstrates poor reality testing (at the dysfunctional level of the personality disordered vs. that of the psychotic) and will only attempt tasks in which he has unrealistic assurances of success . In terms of psychopathology, Dubya is well beyond the ‘spoiled brat’ stage that the researchers seem to have addressed misusing clinical language” (rdf. (2007, February 22). The Authoritarian Personality. http://www.talk2action.org/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/2/22/9536/90913).

“But Bush (43) is no dummy. Intellectually lazy for sure, but he is not stupid. His problem, it seems to me, is one of psychology not intelligence. Is there any doubt that he suffers from some personality disorder?” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.hotpotatomash.com/2008/02/ronald-reagan-t.html).

“GW Bush, who--again, based purely on his actions--shows all the signs of someone with constantly worsening narcissistic personality disorder” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/06/20/bush_motives/view/index11.html).

“Bush’s out-of-step behavior with reality has a clinical name. Its called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The symptoms are listed below. . . .” (Posted by woodq8. (2008, February 13). The Clinical name for Bush’s Mental disorder. http://www.e-thepeople.org/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/124601/view?viewtype=best&skip=10).

“Yes, Bush fulfills the criteria for diagnosis of Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (AlexLawyer. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/13/5189).

“Bush has narcissistic personality disorder” (chemoelectric. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/10/04/862/94161).

Any psychologists here? I would like to know what sort(s) of pathology Bush suffers from. I generally don’t like to extrapolate politics from personality, but Bush is impossible to ignore in this regard. This man is deeply disturbed and his illness has affected us all. What is he? A delusional narcissist? What? Somebody give me a pop-psychology diagnosis (jrw).

Yes, narcissistic personality disorder, with delusions of competence, a sense of aristocratic entitlement, and perpetual immunity from the murderous consequences of his own ill-considered actions or inaction. None of this bout him is new. He has demonstrated sociopathic reckless and irresponsible behavior his entire life. Will history bail him out this time, as opposed to his father’s friends? 9/11, Katrina, and the economic meltdown are his legacy, and I doubt historians, even those sympathetic to Republicans, will see his disastrous presidency as ill-fated due to circumstances beyond his control (Rich).

Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_10/015132.php

“Narcissists and Psychopaths in Politics . . . The Madness of George W. Bush, A reflection of our own psychosis http://baltimorechronicle.com/011305PaulLevy.shtml” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://groups.msn.com/narcissisticpersonalitydisorder/nsingovernment.msnw).

“So far, Bush leadership is much too narcissistic . . . George Bush is being narcissistic. Not the worst of it is that the people around him are making fools of themselves defending him. . . .” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1O998-narcissistic.html).

“‘Narcissistic Personality Disorder’. It used to be called Character Disordered. George w. Bush is a classic narcissist” (dennis from west chazy. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2008/07/mccain-says-dan.html).

“I believe we are all aware now that George W. Bush is a psychopath, with a personality disorder characterised by chronic immoral and antisocial behaviour. It will be his only defence, his mental health problem, if the War Crime Tribunals catch up with him one day” (Roland Michel Tremblay. (2008, May 25). George W. Bush and Dick Cheney dictator and psychopath’s checklists are complete: time for impeachment. http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/05/25/p25646).

“George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month. . . . Ego? Maybe. Narcissistic personality disorder? Possibly. Schizophrenia? Likely” (TBogg. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/i-feel-pretty-oh-so-pretty-that-the-city-should-give-me-its-key-a-committee-should-be-organized-to-honor-me/).

“George W Bush is a classic narcissist as anyone with any psychiatric background can tell you. . . . Here is a link to a psychiatric analysis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Mr. Bush exhibits many if not all of these traits” (Bryan. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/01/bush_my_thinking_is_taking_sha.html).

“Is Bush a narcissist or an Oedipal retard, trannie?” (Posted by Oddball. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://shadowculture.com/movies/goodbyemrcranky/74/269.html).

“George W. Bush has great trouble mastering even a simple sentence. He is, day by day, becoming more and more incoherent, delusional, and, well, unpresidential . . . Why? . . . That’s normal for someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (Roedy Green. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://mindprod.com/politics/bushismswhy.html).

“A psychiatrist’s analysis of george bush as having a Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.diigo.com/tag/george-bush).

“‘Narcissistic Personality Disorder’ is probably as good a shorthand for what’s wrong with George W. Bush” (Posted by Mark Kleiman. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.samefacts.com/archives/gwb_the_beloved_leader_/2007/02/bill_frist_in_democratic_dress.php).

“I wrote some long posts about Bush’s psychopathology. I basically agreed with psychoanalyst Justin Frank, MD ( author of ‘Bush on the Couch’) that Bush, among other diagnoses, suffered from narcissistic personality disorder” (Hal Brown. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/1951).

“Velvel writes, ‘One view is that Bush has a narcissistic personality. Due to insecurities, he has constructed a grandiose vision of himself and is thus immune to the criticisms or views of those who do not go along with his views. Because he is no intellect (to put it mildly), he dismisses intellect entirely, and utilized his strength, personal affability, to win over others. Narcissistically, he apparently will do anything to protect his psyche from the destruction of being shown wrong—including causing the deaths of thousands of Americans and Iraqis in pursuit of a mere long shot opportunity to proceed’” (Lawrence Velvel. Reported by Sherwood Ross. (2008, October 27). Bush “exhibit number one for the danger of having a nut job in the oval office.” http://impeachforpeace.org/. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=5829).

“Paul Levy: GEORGE BUSH IS A MALIGNANT NARCISSIST” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.gluetext.com/content/m/malignant/malignant_narcissist.html).

“I’m thinking, since it’s absolutely obvious that our president suffers from personality disorder, and since the voters of the country were not aware of this condition when he was elected (well, most of them were not), I think it would be appropriate to strip him of his job, his insurance, and his lifelong benefits. He should also be required to use his elitist family’s bank accounts to reimburse the country the billions he has stolen from it, including Specialist Town’s $15,000” (JIM MCKAY. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.thenation.com/bletters/20070409/kors?write=1).

“The psychiatrist at Huffington Post who analyzed Bush’s behavior concluded that he suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/that_doctor).

“The combative speech Mr. Bush gave on Saturday, the railing of the Senate Republican leadership and Mr. Bush when they failed to pass the Patriot Act, followed closely by their childish determination not to renew it for three months while compromise is negotiated, are symptomatic of a narcissistic personality disorder (DSM-IV code 301.81). Among the diagnostic criteria listed there is number ‘(5) has a sense of entitlement (i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations).’ There are other criteria and Mr. Bush is a multiple winner. In my book he is a prime example of homo tyrannus” (Hestal. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=127).

“One definition of ‘narcissist’ I saw, says there’s a self-deception quality, and that is easy to see in George Bush, etc. It was even in the news last year, ‘is Bush a liar or just self-deceived’” (Edwin Rutsch. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://democracyforamerica.com/blog_posts/25707).

“George W Bush is mentally ill . . . Narcissistic Personality Disorder” (Posted by J -Som. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.liberalrapture.com/2007/07/george-w-bush-is-mentally-ill.html).

“There is other evidence of Bush’s narcissistic disorder that is in plain public view, though it is not widely reported by corporate media” (Sara S. DeHart. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.bushwatch.com/dehart.htm).

“Diagnosing Dubya: What’s Wrong With Georgie? . . . Narcissitic Personality Disorder? Alcoholism? Substance Abuse? Oedipal Complex? Sociopathic tendencies? Dry Drunk? What's wrong with George Bush? . . . Personally I think he's got serious NPD coupled with major delusions of grandeur” (LetterMan. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.mosquitonet.com/~letterman/diagnosis.html).

“For example, Bush, in his delusion, imagines he is divinely guided. His supporters want to believe this to feed their own adolescent fantasies of wanting to have a divinely inspired leader to take care of and protect them. Because of this need they invest, so to speak, in Bush’s delusion, which just confirms to Bush all the more that he indeed is God’s instrument. Bush and his followers are co-dependently and reciprocally feeding and supporting each other’s unconscious narcissistic needs in a truly pathological, and ultimately self-destructive co-dependent relationship” (Paul Levy. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13099.htm).

“George W Bush is driven by ideology and a narcissist developing a cult of the personality, a man suffering from borderline personality disorder as they did, and capable of justifying imposition of great harm” (Zed. Retrieved November 12, 2008, from http://www.drudge.com/news/113355/cnn-obamas-lying-william-ayers).

Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

“GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” BLOG OF ANDREW YU-JEN WANG

http://andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com/2008/11/george-w-bush-has-narcissistic_12.html
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:20 PM
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1. I would say both Narcissistic and Antisocial
Personality Disorders co-occurring - he has the symptoms of both: "a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood" (Antisocial) and "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy" (Narcissistic).

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:36 PM
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14. I agree he has both. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:45 PM
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15. Cheney is classic APD ... and the Smirking Turd mirrors him in a complex enabler/NPD dance.
The Smirking Turd's primary pathology is NPD but does exhibit an echo of Cheney's APD when seeking his NPD 'supply.'
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:32 PM
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33. I say we name this hybrid after them. n/t
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:21 PM
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2. good lord.What is the treatment for NPD?..talk therapy,meds?
is there ANY treatment for it?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:26 PM
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4. NPDers are resistant to therapy
I was married to one and suffered cruel emotional abuse for many years, and then a horrendous divorce process. Finally one day his business partner, a psychologist by training, told me about the obvious NPD. I studied up.

When I first watched W., in his early campaign, I pegged him as NPD immediately. The arrogance, the ruthlessness -- all there.

George W. is the personification of the worst kind of human that could assume the world's most powerful position.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:32 PM
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9. I guess the only perk of having lived with one is being able to recognize them
in the future.

It took me decades to realize this was what was going on with my father, but once the scales fell from my eyes, it was easy to spot. Like you, I pegged GWB from very early on.

I hope you didn't have any children with your ex but if you did, there's a really good book: The Children of the Self-Absorbed.
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:00 PM
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23. Thanks
I want to order that book and send it to Bristol Palin, it may help FREE her.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:11 AM
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39. Seriously,
Sarah Palin is definitely another one!

Talk about grandiose . . . .
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 04:14 PM
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71. Thanks for that book reco, I'll check it out.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:47 PM
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16. NPD is effectively untreatable ... since 'treatment' is a supply to the pathology.
After all ... attention FUELS NPD ... he's on stage and being enabled by the action/reaction.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:28 PM
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6. Meds don't help. And talk therapy usually doesn't help, either.
One of the features of this disorder is that they wouldn't let a therapist help them, because they are so perfect they don't need help. In their own minds, at least.

It's usually the relatives of a narcissist who ended up going for therapy.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:07 AM
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81. I'm pretty sure there is no treatment or cure for it.
Sociopaths don't consider themselves sick and don't seek treatment.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:25 PM
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3. This is all well and good...
But why weren't we having this discussion eight years ago?

He's leaving office soon...

All this is just a bit late, IMHO.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:28 PM
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5. some of us WERE having this conversation then.
It helps people understand the pathology to talk about it, even now. And it helps raise awareness of NPD, which is something to be feared and avoided in relationships with others.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:31 PM
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8. OK, that 's good!
Your points are well taken!

I meant no offense, really...

:hi:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:33 PM
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12. The other reason is because we don't ever want to have another President
with this disorder, and unfortunately, many of them ARE drawn to politics.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:33 PM
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11. These aren't new ideas. People have warned about Bush's narcissistic personality disorder before,
but like the warnings "there are no weapons of mass destruction", the voices of reason went unheeded.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:40 PM
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28. We were
And we were told that armchair psychologizing wasn't appropriate. It didn't matter that we were right and that the "man" we were discussing had the keys to the nuclear buttons.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:29 PM
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7. This isn't news to anybody at DU
:hi:

We've hashed and rehashed Pea-Brain's damaged mental state for the last eight years. It's obvious to anyone who has been paying attention.

The bad thing is we haven't been able to do a thing about it, except wait to vote him out of office.

The only thing to do now is clean up the mess W and Crash Cart made in the world.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:50 PM
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17. You bet ... we had him nailed as a pathological narcissist in 2002-2003.
We had MANY threads discussing it.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 04:17 PM
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72. Yes. False "charm" is one of the attributes, and it's been frustrating to watch so many succumb.
I gave up telling fundies, "No, he doesn't really care about those things, he's just saying them to get your support. He's lying," because it was like talking to a wall.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:32 PM
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10. I don't think Bush is a Narcissist
Edited on Thu Jan-01-09 04:33 PM by hyphenate
I think he's a meglomaniac, but more telling is that he is a true psychopath.

From what I know of mental disorders, a psychopath doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, but a sociopath knows the difference and doesn't care.

I think that after years of destroying his mind, and from we know of Bush in his earlier years, he does have a warped view of the real world, and that psychopath fits him better. On the other hand, both Dick Cheney and Karl Rove are sociopaths, because they know what they've done is wrong, but they don't give a fuck.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:35 PM
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13. Why don't you? Because he is a classic. And there is very often overlap between
these disorders, so he is quite possibly both a narcissist and a psychopath or sociopath.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:12 PM
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24. My money says narcissistic sociopath with meglo-maniacal overtones ...
and definite "daddy" and "mommy" issues.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:09 AM
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53. When this illness peaks
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 11:10 AM by glinda
he can come out as a total looney toon that is mega dangerous. My uncle has it and has caused grief to my mother by stealing our inheritance. He dangles it over my distant cousin's heads for power and control. This disease can morph into a huge psychosis of paranoia, violent acts, etc.....It cannot be treated.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:51 AM
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55. the narcissist in my life has caused incalculable damage
Driven family members apart via manipulations and lies. I can't even think about it. The effects are heartbreaking.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:29 PM
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60. Yes. They drive family members apart, disown, lie.
They do this to keep their secret I think and also because it is compulsive. I think maybe one reason that no one does anything with Bush is that they don't want to trip his wire. All the issues with everything being secretive is perhaps just an extension of his madness with everyone taking advantage on the side. If Bush ever HAD to face reality, he would crack. I think that is why he keeps creeping further and further into his fabricated world. That is why he says so many untruths. It is his insulation against totally going off the rails altogether. That said, he should be committed before he leaves office.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 04:18 PM
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73. Sounds like chimpy peaked in 2003, when he invaded Iraq.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:52 PM
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18. don't forget the oedipal aspect to Bush's condition
The weak and failed son of a cold, hostile mother and a distant, powerful, accomplished father. The most powerful military in the world's history put in his hands. It's a recipe for woe in the world.

Karl Rove knew that, of course, and exploited it.

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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:27 AM
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45. Oedipal? What a lovely picture that presents.
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:53 PM
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19. The Smirking Turd is the poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Future editions of the DSM should include his photo and a biography. Cheney's the classical sociopath-megalomaniac. So's Rumsfeld.

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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 04:06 PM
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68. "Psychopath" is an obsolete term that has been replaced by "sociopath."
"Psychopath" is punchier in casual conversation, however.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:53 PM
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20. psycho
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:55 PM
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21. Welcome to DU!
He has that, and a whole lot more.

A self-proclaimed messiah complex, for starters.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:57 PM
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22. At this point, I don't really care about his psychological profile.
Whether or not he has a clinical disorder doesn't change the reality of what he's done and I wonder, if he were to actually receive such a diagnosis, could he not use that as a defense?

Unless he had a true psychotic break that he's never returned from, since say 2000, fuck him. He committed war crimes and if he is brought to justice after he leaves office, that will be wonderful. If not, may the forces of Karma reign on him a fitting punishment.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:18 PM
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30. !
:applause:
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:30 PM
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25. First, you have to have a personality. Considering Bush is someone
with no conscience and thinks killing children saves our freedom he has to be criminally insane. He should be in an asylum and not allowed contact with other people. He is dangerous to others.
:dem:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:43 PM
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26. None of which makes me want to visit the blog you are do desperately promoting.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:59 PM
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27. Bush may be a little narcissistic but he is mostly like Palin...and empty vessle puppet.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:20 PM
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31. Who do you think is pulling the strings?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:34 PM
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34. Cheney & the neocons. The neocons model themselves on psychopaths. Some of them are some of them
are not. I think Cheney is a better candidate for a psychopath than Bush is.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:09 PM
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35. I know because I was once a puppet to a narcissist. I wasn't an empty person I just was
very, very naive and didn't take offence and ask what was going on for a long time.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:14 PM
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29. welcome, Andrew Wang...
...and thank you for compiling all that information.
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Wang111 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:45 AM
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78. Thank you for your welcome
“Grasswire”:

Thank you for your welcome.

Andrew
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:28 PM
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32. Yeah, we got it.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:43 PM
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36. Jeeze, and all these years I thought . . .
. . . he was just an asshole.

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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:47 AM
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44. I think that's the layman's translation of the diagnosis.
Besides, it's easier to spell, and is quicker to type than "Drunken Coked-Up Self-Loving Mean-Spirited Oedipal Scum-Sucking Pus-Filled Worthless Waste of Oxygen."

But I've also found "Shit-fer-Brains" to be an acceptable substitute.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:03 PM
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37. Looks like a verdict has been reached, psychologically speaking
Yes, Bush is a narcissist.

I used to have a tenant living in my house who was a narcissist. It was a nightmare.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:21 AM
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82. I did too...I had a tenant living in my house who was a crackhead,
an alcoholic and a pathological liar. Just like Bush, he would lie about things he knew I knew. He owed me about $800 in back rent and other expenses when I finally kicked him out, not to mention the value of all the stuff that mysteriously disappeared from the garage while he was living with me.

That's how I was able to recognize Bush for what he was very quickly...I learned the hard way.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:32 PM
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38. The question becomes: will he step down on the 20th?
Or kill half of us to stay in power??
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:21 AM
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47. I am still very cautious about whether he will step down
he still has enough time to cause havoc, and people will be in the streets if that happens.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:08 PM
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59. I don't think that will be a worry. He's long since tired of the job.
He kinda checked out a while ago. He's ready to return to being a fuck-up as a private citizen.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:17 AM
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40. yea...I've been saying that about the shithead since BEFORE he was appointed King...
...not that anyone give a rat.

Hook that rat bastard up to an fMRI machine and let's SEE THE PROOF. Then lock his ass up in a straightjacket for the rest of his miserable life.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:31 AM
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41. I have one thing to say ....
K&R - "Retrieved November 12, 2008"
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:08 AM
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42. Wang, many of your links don't lead to the quotes you cited
while others lead to badly written articles with commentary furnished by yourself, some of which also promotes a book written by Lawrence Velvel as the best book ever written and other such tripe.

I haven't checked even half of your links, but I'm sure others here will catch on quickly enough.

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Wang111 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:57 AM
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79. The links indicated are the proper links
Kaleko:

The links indicated are the proper links. The links worked at the time I did the online research on one of George W. Bush’s mental illnesses—narcissistic personality disorder—for my educational and/or scholastic work (my blog). It can easily be the case that whatever link(s) had worked and then stopped working (for example: the website(s) were removed). And it can easily be the case that whatever quoted information is hard to find at an existing link where one may have to read through pages of information before finding whatever quoted information.

Happy New Year!

Andrew
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 05:21 AM
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43. read Justin Frank's book "Bush on the Couch"
Bush is in heavy denial. If he were to become more willing, treatment is available and works.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:16 AM
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46. there is no doubt about Bush mental disorders he is a sick man.
I have kept this interview by Dr. Justin Frank for a long time, and of course it all makes sense.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/interviews/2006/3314justin_frank.html

Bush has mental disorders.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:26 AM
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48. "Dry-Drunks" exhibit similar behaviors, their faulty thinking remains,
even though they no longer drink. You could say the same about Limbaugh. "Recovery" requires admitting mistakes and making amends to those wronged, Neither Bush nor Rush have done either.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:11 AM
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54. Yes but he exhibits both dry drunk and Narcissism
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:36 AM
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49. We've known this for a long time. The big question is what to do about him.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:40 AM
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50. I'm glad that at least one of the alleged professionals in the OP...
...acknowledges that diagnosing from a distance is highly unethical.

I'll nearly excuse the rest, though, as * is such a tempting target.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:54 AM
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57. see my post #56. (eom)
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 09:30 AM
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51. I get sick of doctors and pseudo-journalists posting this crap just to make headlines...
Yes, he's shown traits of all these. But has anyone examined the man? Talked to him? It's dangerous and irreponsible to make a mental diagnosis of a man just cause you want to make a splash in a magazine or journal.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:53 AM
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56. you are wrong
This kind of arms-length diagnosis is used by intelligence agencies all the time, to predict the actions of world figures in positions of power. It's standard procedure. It would be irresponsible to ignore the mental state of someone with nuclear capability.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 10:17 AM
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52. W has NPD and Darth Cheney is a Sociopath.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:56 AM
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58. Since its too friggen Late to do anything re Bush/Cheney...the very Least we can do is PREVENTION
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 12:03 PM by opihimoimoi
HOW to Prevent another NPD from the Oval Office....adequate Filters must be part of the System...which let us down in 2000....we voters did not know enough to make good decision in the voting booth.

Bring back the old fashioned DEBATES....the current ones allow them sneaky NPDs to squeeze past through

We need better filters so we can see the real guy...

McCain revealed himself to us during the long campaign..."I screwed up" was his comment to Dave....thus his loss was assured....
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guyton Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:00 PM
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62. draft a qualified head of state
Seriously, anyone who really believes that they are best qualified to run the country has got to be delusional.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 04:08 PM
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69. One Person ain't gonna do it......its gatta be more than that....change the mode of selection
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:48 PM
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61. wangy-poos links don't work, I guess the propagandist was too busy playing
with his wang to actually make any sense.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 04:09 PM
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70. Although I disagree with
the name-calling and insults you just used (y'know, DU rules about respect and all that) I gotta ask, where is the OP anyway? Another hit-and-run post, I guess.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 05:02 PM
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74. Yeh, calling out pure propagandists is just so disagreeable and, like, honest
Why it's an annoyance of the highest order! I demand a protocol of civility be maintained in my royal presence!
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Wang111 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:03 AM
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80. The links worked at the time I did the online research
specimenfred1984:

The links indicated are the proper links. The links worked at the time I did the online research on one of George W. Bush’s mental illnesses—narcissistic personality disorder—for my educational and/or scholastic work (my blog). It can easily be the case that whatever link(s) had worked and then stopped working (for example: the website(s) were removed). And it can easily be the case that whatever quoted information is hard to find at an existing link where one may have to read through pages of information before finding whatever quoted information.

Happy New Year!

Andrew
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:12 PM
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63. How nice
is this like "not responsible"? Or "not guilty by reason of insanity"?
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TEmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:23 PM
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64. In the words of my friend "no shit, sherlock"
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:35 PM
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65. Eeeeyup. 2009 is going to be the Year Of "I Told You So."
And just in case some of you missed my years of ranting, here are a few other things I'm pretty sure will turn out to be true eventually:

* Bush was spending all that time on vacation because he was having frequent "moments of clarity," as Sam Jackson would put it, where he would suffer from depression and mental breakdown. Narcissists only function when the delusion of their own competence returns to them, and I'll bet it took an entire team of psychologists to keep them functioning.

* The Bush Administration has been running programs of systematic murder and kidnapping in at least three places around the globe: Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Philippines. My guess is they have murdered somewhere between ten thousand and fifty thousand people. The people doing the deeds are "contractors" working for the likes of KBR, Raytheon, and Halliburton.

* Most of the trillion-dollar bailout went into the pockets of a few dozen Republican donors.

* The ISI, Mossad, China, and Russia all knew about the planned attacks of 9/11/01. All of them warned the United States before the attacks.

* The North Koreans didn't really detonate a nuclear weapon. They staged it and the Bush Administration played along so that they could go back to ignoring them.

* The Chinese and the Israelis have all of Karl Rove's emails, and the Republican Party will be beholden to those nations for the foreseeable future because of it.

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:46 PM
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66. What do the people who appointed him president suffer from?
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 04:02 PM
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67. So, tell us something we don't know.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 05:06 PM
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75. And What Excuse Does the Rest of the GOP and Nancy Pelosi Have?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 05:13 PM
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76. There are known knowns after all: Awaken In The Dream, The Madness of George W. Bush...
A REFLECTION OF OUR COLLECTIVE PSYCHOSIS

George W. Bush is ill. He has a psycho-spiritual dis-ease of the soul, a sickness that is endemic to our culture and symptomatic of the times in which we live. It is an illness that has been with us since time immemorial. Because it is an illness in the soul of all of humanity, it pervades the field and is in all of us in potential at any moment, which makes it especially hard to diagnose.

Bush's malady is quite different from schizophrenia, for example, in which different parts of the personality are fragmented and not connected to each other, resulting in a state of internal chaos. As compared to the dis-order of the schizophrenic, Bush can sound quite coherent and appear like a "regular" guy, which makes the syndrome he is suffering from very hard to recognize. This is because the healthy parts of his personality have been co-opted by the pathological aspect, which drafts them into its service. Because of the way the personality self-organizes an outer display of coherence around a pathogenic core, I would like to name Bush's illness "Malignant Egophrenia" (as compared to schizophrenia), or "ME disease," for short. If ME disease goes unrecognized and is not contained, it can be very destructive, particularly if the person afflicted is in a position of power.

In much the same way that a child's psychology cannot be understood without looking at the family system of which he or she is a part, George Bush does not exist in isolation. We can view Bush—and his entire administration: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc., as well as the corporate, military industrial complex they are co-dependently enmeshed with, the media they control, the voters supporting them, and ourselves as well—as interconnected parts of a whole system, or a "field." Instead of relating to any part of this field as an isolated entity, it’s important to contemplate the entire interdependent field as the "medium" through which malignant egophrenia manifests and propagates itself. ME disease is a field phenomenon and needs to be contemplated as such. Bush's sickness is our own.


THE DISEASE IS NON-LOCAL

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