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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:43 PM
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CNN cheerleading for Gaza invasion for an hour now...
right now they have guy on there comparing Hamas to Hitler...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:44 PM
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1. NATCH!
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:45 PM
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2. No...that's not what he said...
Mr. Levy stated that Hitler was elected by the German people, but when the Germans were defeated by the Allies, then the new German President said that his people had been liberated from a tyrant.

His point was that you can elect someone who is bad for you as a People...can you think of another country which did that recently (2004)?
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:46 PM
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3. But to bring up specifically that example...
could have picked Shrub instead.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:49 PM
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No...he said that that he didn't particularly like this example,
It was clearly a universal point...and well-taken.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:49 PM
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5. Levy was ridiculous. "What matters is INTENT". No Levy, what matters are RESULTS.
You can't let Israel's massacre off the hook by saying "they don't target civilians, but Hamas does". Israel is killing hundreds of civilians - to the point that saying "they don't target civilians" is a LIE. You bomb a university, you are targetting civilians. You bomb a densely populated area - you are tartgeting civilians.

They need to stop lying - among other things.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:51 PM
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7. Egypt and Jordan are examples of Israel living in peace...
why can people not accept that the Israelis just want to live IN PEACE, and the only way to do that in these instances is to militarily defeat those who have sworn the destruction. For crying out loud, that is the Hamas creed. Not co-existence, not peace, not anything but death to the Zionist Entity.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:58 PM
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10. Would you like to address my actual point? I know it's hard to defend the massacre of innocents,
but that's the issue here.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:00 PM
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11. Cheap rhetoric...
where was your indignation when cafes were blown up in Tel Aviv or rockets were falling on schools, or Passover Seders were bombed?

Your 'point' is irrelevant...
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:25 PM
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14. Because you can't defend Israel massacring innocent Palestinians - year after year.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:32 PM
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16. Because YOU can't defend the consistent and steady attacks
upon a Sovereign State by terrorist factions whose aim is to destroy that State.

And you know what...the Gazans had every chance to make a country, but all they did was use their resources to attack Israel. Well, guess what, you play that game with a powerful country, you get what you deserve. Maybe, they'll stop pledgeing to soak their hands in the blood of Jews and think about co-existing.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:43 PM
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18. Jesus Christ, that's some twisted fucking thinking. The blood soaking the ground ain't Jewish.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:56 PM
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19. It's called a "blockade" ... the perpetual strangulation of Gaza by Israel.
Israel, even after discontinuing the 35-year OCCUPATION of Gaza, still controls the airspace above Gaza, the access to Gaza from the sea, and the land borders around Gaza. The Palestinians in Gaza can't even eat without 'permission' from Israel. Unemployment in Gaza is running about 50% or more, largely due to the fact that the citizens of Gaza cannot engage in trade or even rely on power to factories that's not controlled by Israel. The Israelis insist that Gaza exert control over Hamas but the citizens of Gaza can't even construct a civil infrastructure (police, government, fire fighters, etc.) that's not destroyed by the IDF/IAF.

It's a massive political codependency where each 'side' blames the other for their bad behavior. (Classic codependency goes as follows: When the wife is asked why she nags, she says it's because the husband's always drunk. When the husband's asked why he drinks, he says it's because the wife is always nagging.)
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:05 PM
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21. So stop the terrorism, remounce it,
and the blockade will cease to exist.

It's simple...but true.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:17 PM
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12. Maybe it's because of their expansionist policies.
n/t
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:19 PM
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13. Old and thin argument, ranks right there with...
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 02:21 PM by fla nocount
"A land without people for a people without a land." The world has become too sophisticated for that kind of raggedy posturing to hold water. I'm not defending the political stance of either party in this conflict but the oft quoted rationales used to defend occupation, acquisition and the removal of an indigenous people have so many holes that they whistle when the wind blows. The world deserves some new excuses to continue with this charade.

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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:53 PM
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9. Well said nt
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:49 PM
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6. Oh, a few more.
Israel being one, the US another, Canada another, Great Britain another......it's all a matter of degree.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:48 PM
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4. Note that the CNN Scroll repeatedly cites "37 dead" in Gaza attacks. Only
rarely does the scroll quote the actual 485 number. "37" is the number killed just since the ground incursion yesterday. I just posted this in the I/P Forum, but it smells to high heaven.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:51 PM
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8. Actually, CNN's coverage has been pretty good.
At least the coverage on Rick Sanchez' show.
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soulcore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:27 PM
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15. I'm getting really sick of the anchors...
...constantly badgering the Palestinian guests while being gracious kind hosts to the ones spewing Israeli propaganda.

I'm watching the live feed now and the anchor is actually ARGUING with the guest, forcing the issue that Hamas is to blame for the entire tragedy.

It's sickening all around.

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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:32 PM
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17. C hristian N azi N ews? Naw, they can't be bought. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:58 PM
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20. as i was nodding off last night, cnn had their 'crisis in gaza' banner and their dramatic music goin
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 02:59 PM by spanone
the ultimate reality show & they're going for the ratings
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