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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:36 PM
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Cheney: Bush's Actions Legal If Not Impeached
Source: The Raw Story

If you don't get punished, you didn't go anything wrong, right?

That's the message Vice President Dick Cheney gave in an interview with CBS' Bob Schieffer on Sunday, suggesting that a president's actions are legal if those actions didn't result in his impeachment.


Asked by Schieffer if he believed that anything the president does in time of war is legal, Cheney said there is "historic precedent of taking action that you wouldn't take in peacetime."

Cheney referenced Abraham Lincoln as an example of another president who "suspended the writ of habeus corpus" during a war, prompting this exchange:

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SCHIEFFER: But nobody thinks that was legal.

CHENEY: Well, no. It certainly was in the sense he wasn't impeached. And it was a wartime measure that he took that I think history says today, yeah, that was probably a good thing to do.

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The vice president spent much of the interview defending eight years of the Bush administration's policies, including its surveillance and interrogation programs.


more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Cheney_Presidents_actions_legal_if_hes_0104.html
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:38 PM
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1. We are not at war n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:22 PM
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17. We are not at war: tis all an excuse for all the illegality, inhumanity, unconstitutionality that's
gone down. :D
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:38 PM
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2. Cheney Is Delusional--This Century's Kissinger
He is SO asking for a war crimes trial in the Hague AND a treason trial at home....

so let's give it to him!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:18 PM
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16. Hear! Hear!
:P
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:40 PM
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3. ROFL Go fuck yourself Mr. Cheney!
See you in the Hague. Once you collect your fucking pardon, then they will have standing, you prick.

-Hoot
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:40 PM
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4. Not exactly what he said.
He said that Lincoln's actions were legal, from the perspective that "legality" means "that which is not stopped by the legal system," and that regardless his actions were looked upon favorably by history. He's not saying Bush didn't do anything illegal per se, but rather that the country tends to be more lenient on the chief executive during wartime.

It's weaselly, but not *exactly* "Bush's actions legal if not punished."
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:43 PM
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5. whenever I read some of the quotes by Cheney
all I can say is :wtf:

what bizarro universe is he living in
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:50 PM
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6. He Has Somwhat Of A Point
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 05:50 PM by MannyGoldstein
By not impeaching Bush and Cheney, Congress has given tacit approval of their conduct that may be used in legal arguments later on.

Actually, the precedent of his predecessor in creating law through executive decree, bypassing Parliament, is is how Hitler came to rule Germany unchecked. The courts used the precedent in deciding that Hitler could do the same.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:55 PM
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7. Indeed.
Complicity through inaction sets a precedent. The Democrats in power have said, "The actions of this administration are acceptable, please feel free to continue in the future."
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:34 PM
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13. Ahhh, the old "Because you let me" defense.
I can only hope Cheney's love of bunkers and holes is rewarded in spades by some/any court.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:02 PM
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8. Thanks to the 2006-2008 elections, cheney and limbaugh are eunuchs.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:03 PM
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9. Yes, the impeachment threshold.
I remember from law school.
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oldnslo Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:05 PM
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So then Bush good president if not bumped off, ticket punched, etc.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:05 PM
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10. Wrong, Dick!
Why is everything out of this guy's mouth so wrong?

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:28 PM
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11. I despise the hypocrisy that is Dick Cheney and the Federalist Society.
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 06:32 PM by higher class
He pretends to be talking about Bush, but he is talking about himself. He is and has been the President. Don't think your fooling us, DicK.

Though you wouldn't be able to figure it out yourself, we know you were able to rely on the Federalist Society who figured out a path of screwed up reasoning and gave you the excuses as well as the accompanying signatures of that worthless Attorney General.

Then, you had Mr Addington, Woo, Libby and a batallion of other lawyers to tell you how to do it.

Nuts do you DICK - do you get pleasure when talking about Bush knowing it's yourself? Pleasure from letting George swinging from the tree? Poor George. He allowed himself to be your joke?

Nixon left two daugthers and children to deal with his reputation and legacy.

Bush is leaving two daughters and their children to deal his reputation and legacy.

And you, also, are leaving two dauthers to deal with YOUR reputation and legacy.

Yes, I support the chant - hope to watch you on tv when you arrive at the Hague.

President in act - of killing, thieving, lying,and torturring and making a huge fortune while pretending to be a VP.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:34 PM
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12. it's just amazing that Cheney
goes on interview show after interview show, unafraid of any repercussions. The contempt with which he holds the American people, not to mention the rest of the world, is mind-boggling.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:43 PM
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15. he knows that nothing will be done to him arrogant SOB he is.
I would love for us or some attorney general prove him wrong.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:41 PM
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14. that arrogant SOB that is why our goal should be to get these criminals
their just dues.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:36 PM
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18. if the dems let these crooks walk, they will have set a frightening precedent
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