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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:35 PM
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Florida legislature is hacking budget, sparing no one. No cuts in corporate tax breaks in sight.
Florida is known for its huge corporate tax breaks. As best I can see they will not be affected at all in this crisis. I guess after Poppa Bush once famously said "read my lips, no new taxes"...that the state which is in reality still Jebbie's state will not give in and do away with the corporate breaks. Not even to save the state from disaster.

As state Rep. Curtis Richardson, D-Tallahassee, complained last week: "Over the past eight years we have given $18 billion in tax relief to the richest 2 percent of our population and corporate special interests. Now that the economic times have turned, we choose to place the burden on balancing the budget on those who are least able to afford it."

..."The only sure winners in such public-private accommodations are the corporate owners and executives who use public dollars to offset their internal costs and artificially pad their bottom lines. Aren’t they clever?

Corporate socialism


The article today from the Sentinel.

From the Orlando Sentinel

Convening a special session Monday to close a $2.3 billion deficit, lawmakers prepared to make the third round of cuts in the past 15 months. Among them:

*A $490 million cut in K-12 education spending. The reduction could mean fewer elective classes, less one-on-one tutoring and even layoffs, schools officials said. A nearly $150 million cut for universities and community colleges, including $367,000 of the $9.1 million intended for the University of Central Florida's new medical school.

*Another $330 million in cuts for nursing homes and hospice, AIDS care and prevention, and hospital reimbursement rates, even though Crist had vowed to hold them "harmless." Reams of other cuts: $2 million from Space Florida, the agency intended to recruit commercial aerospace business; $7 million from the Visit Florida advertising campaign; $15 million from film incentives.

"This is a preamble of what is to come in the regular session," said Sen. Mike Fasano, R-New Port Richey
, who chairs the Senate's transportation and economic-development budget committee.

Republican leaders flatly rejected Democratic calls to consider higher taxes, including a $1-a-pack cigarette tax worth $700 million a year.


Democrats are totally helpless to stop it because the Republicans are in total control of Florida in every single way.

The sad part is that Florida welfare rolls are growing and food stamp requests are up over 45%

Of all the regions in the state, Southwest Florida saw the biggest jump. In Charlotte County, where the unemployment rate is 10 percent, the number of people receiving food stamps grew 113 percent.

In Lee County, where the foreclosure rate is highest in the state, the number of recipients jumped 125 percent.

Even in Sarasota County, the need rose 95 percent. In Manatee County, the increase was 83 percent.

"There are people coming to us every day who have never had to ask for help before," said Dan Dunn, executive director of All Faiths Food Bank in Sarasota. "People who used to be middle class, who lost their jobs or their house, can't afford to eat."


If indeed there is any bright spot at all in this mess, the budget crunch may stop the giveaways to CSX of a great swath of Central Florida paid for with the money of the taxpayers.

Jeb's secret 2005 deal with CSX may be hurt by budget crunch.

A multimillion dollar deal with CSX Transportation could face problems in the Legislature in 2009 as lawmakers try to plug a growing budget gap.

"When we're scrambling to come up with $2.3 billion in the budget, it may give people some incentive to take a second look at this deal," said state Sen. Paula Dockery, R-Lakeland, an opponent of the deal during this year's legislative session.

The state proposed in 2007 to give CSX railroad about $450 million to buy tracks for a commuter system through Orlando. The deal stalled in the Legislature when lawmakers failed to approve a controversial liability agreement.

According to the plan, CSX would have leased the tracks from the state to haul freight during the off-peak commuter hours. The company wanted the state to take full responsibility for any accident involving a commuter train, even those blamed on CSX.


The Republicans in the legislature were even ready to give CSX even more of a deal by giving them immunity from liability and putting the burden on the taxpayers.

TALLAHASSEE | A deal passed Thursday by a Florida House committee would force the state to pay legal costs resulting from accidents on a proposed commuter rail line in Orlando, even if a private railroad company was at fault.

"If we want to put passengers on that line, then we have to accept responsibility," said Rep. Rich Glorioso, R-Plant City, chairman of the House Infrastructure Committee, which passed the indemnification Thursday. There are still many more stops before the plan faces final approval, with a May 4 deadline.

Under the proposal, even if CSX railroad employees or actions were totally responsible for an accident involving passengers, the state would be liable for the legal damages suffered by passengers.


The budget problems may have stopped that immunity from going through.

To reach $2.3 billion, lawmakers also will empty out cash reserves and halt school building projects intended to lower class sizes.

Florida is truly a state based on the "empty government buildings" theory of Jeb and his family.


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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:43 PM
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1. How do they get away with this crap?
Do republican voters like this kind of representation?

:banghead:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:47 PM
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2. No, even some of the moderate Republicans are rebelling.
There just are not enough of them. The Jeb/Rubio Republicans are still dominant.

Crist caves in to them. They are in control.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 01:09 PM
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4. Exactly, there is nothing to stop them
:(
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 06:12 PM
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5. It's much the same here...
*sigh*
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:52 AM
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28. they keep getting re-elected.
apparently florida voters like it that way.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:53 PM
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3. Can you say "Shock Doctrine"?
I knew you could.

The disaster capitalist puppet Pawlenty is active in Minnesota as well. You are not alone. Of course our Legislature is now DFL controlled so hopefully T-Paw will roll over.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 06:19 PM
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6. The young, old and poor
people are always the first the Repukes go after.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 09:21 PM
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7. And that is exactly who is being targeted in Florida.
It is heartbreaking.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 04:18 PM
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22. Members of the Florida Democratic Party
have only themselves to blame.

Two gubernatorial elections since I've lived in Florida, both that Democrats had a chance to win.

Both times, the Party fielded a candidate with no chance.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:26 PM
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8. Budget cuts to seniors targeting nursing homes badly.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jan/06/state-budget-cuts-could-hit-seniors-hard/news-breaking/

"TALLAHASSEE - State budget pressures are bearing down hard on Florida's 4.3 million seniors.

Lawmakers are proposing to slash millions from health and related spending on seniors as part of the overall plan to close a $2.3-billion hole in the state budget. Cuts would affect everything from nursing homes to in-home services for seniors to a program helping caregivers to those with Alzheimer's.

Of greatest concern to AARP: deep cuts to Medicaid reimbursement rates for nursing homes.

"This will really force them to reduce staffing levels – that's our main concern," said Leslie Spencer, lobbyist for AARP Florida, the lobbying juggernaut representing people age 50 and over. "Studies show once you reduce staffing levels, it has a direct impact on the quality of care."

The Senate is proposing a 10 percent Medicaid rate cut, or $73.5 million, for what remains of the fiscal year ending June 30. House lawmakers are proposing a cut of 9.6 percent.

Spencer said she fears such reductions will prevent some homes from complying with nursing staff requirements mandated by the state."

Very sad.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:13 PM
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12. I wonder how many of those senios voted for the old white man....er McCain
and STILL think he would be a good president.:eyes:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 04:08 PM
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21. our friend worked in a florida nursing home ...
she told us she`s never seen anything like that in her life. the conditions were worse than anything she seen in the homes and state facilities here in illinois. convicts,mentally ill and handicapped all thrown together. she quit after two months.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:49 PM
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9. We're getting close to a third world country down here.
Republicans are governing with an ideology that's every bit as bankrupt as the Soviet Communists.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:55 PM
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10. And they even seem proud of it.
It's pathetic.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:08 PM
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11. For decades, I had planned to retire in FL on my boat
but now I can't because I can't get adequate medical care there.

So here I sit, high and dry on a farm in TN on my sailboat
because I can't heat it in the winter in the water here.
(In FL, the winters are warm enough to do it)

But, the quality of my Medicaid is good here in TN

I was fucked out of my house by Smirk,
Now I've been Bushwhacked again.

Bastards!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 02:08 AM
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13. Bushwhacked is a good word for it.
Yeh, things are pretty bad here right now. Sorry to hear about your problems. So many are hurting it seems there is no end to it. Best to you.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 08:44 PM
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23. My inlaws are favoring Appalachia
because the healthcare is so much better.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 08:59 PM
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24. The social engineering experiment
GWB wanted to foist on the country, was all but completed here. They tried to push State workers into a stock based, no guaranteed benefit, pension plan, just like "private accounts" for social security. It was voluntary (with an incentive), however, they got very few takers.

Otherwise, most of it was fairly successful. Low taxes for the wealthy, vouchers, privitization of government services, tax cuts and incentives for favored businesses, gutting of social services, teacher layoffs, broken budgets, low pay and no raises for state workers, and in an Abramoff special, liberalized gambling on the reservations, cruise boats, and race tracks.

Unfortunately the repugs run the entire thing. Further, there is little evidence that the FL Dems will pull their heads from their posteriors long enough to run a credible slate of candidates which could do something about it. They seemed to prefer to spend their time and limited resources suing the DNC for no good purpose. I knew that there was I reason I considered the Greens back in the 1980's, I am beginning to recall it now.

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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:32 AM
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27. Forget living on a boat down here in Florida
UNLESS....you have deep pockets. Anchorage live aboards are shunned because they don't pay property taxes. Public marinas are shrinking to make way for high-end Condo Complexes. (Any tiny bit of waterfront is becoming more and more for the use of the uber-rich only) Florida is a paradise for Millionaire boaters who's Captains bring their boats down for the "Season". But "Hey" if your boat can be put on a trailer, it is do-able to launch for the day, but to live aboard? About $1,000 a month just for your slip.
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 02:14 AM
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14. CSX getting another big tax break?
Have we any members from Baltimore who can point out those clowns response to the derailment under Baltimore in 2005?

Rail companies should be encouraged to fight global warming, but CSX are idiots by any standard.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 11:58 AM
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18. I am doing some more checking on CSX today.
To see if the immunity deal was stopped. Jeb rammed it through secretly in 2005...not even all the Republicans knew about it.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 08:34 AM
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15. Our kids will have to bring their own toilet paper to school again.
Seriously that is what goes on here. This place sucks.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 10:10 AM
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16. Please tell me you are joking.

I went to a Central American country on a mission trip a year ago. WHen we went out to the mission sites (a school and a church), we had to bring our own toilet paper.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 11:57 AM
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17. No joke. We once had to do that.
I don't remember the year, but the kids and teachers had to furnish toilet paper and paper towels. Plus pencils and paper for the classroom.

We would stockpile the items for the bathroom and if I remember correctly the custodians would take care of replacing them as needed.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:59 PM
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19. Our school budgets will be hacked yet again...
Our county school board just sent all of us a letter imploring us to write to Tallahassee to complain about all of the budget cuts. There have been millions of dollars already taken away, we have cut so many programs, unfunded/underfunded many mandates (class size room is one), enacted tons of cost-saving measures.

Right now they are just trying to get blood out of a turnip.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 04:04 PM
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20. All of this crap....
Edited on Wed Jan-07-09 04:05 PM by vinylsolution
.... needs to be wrapped around Jeb Bush's neck, until his political career has been completely strangled.

Texas used to be the National Laboratory of Bad Government, (under George W), now Florida has also been run aground by BushCo.

The young, the old, and the poor deserve much better than the current gang of Republican pols.




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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 11:48 PM
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25. Fla. Pols.
So far all you have forgot the US Sugar deal. I'm pretty sure that was a 1-1.2 Billion deal. Tell them to wait until next year for the deal on their soon to be useless sugar farm.that makes up half the shortfall. Gee, in the old days we even had crayons and other supplies.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:01 AM
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26. UN Human Rights Clause MAY be able to halt this
denying Americans lifesaving meds: for heart attacks, for diabetes, for cancer. The areas they are cutting MAY be illegal under some obscure American Law; the Right eagerly combs thru ancient American laws-remember that old law they tried against Greenpeace? We need OUR SIDE to search thru laws & stop the righties from pillaging Americans' lives. Those corporations exist at the pleasure of our government & they OWE taxes. They'll take away Willie Nelson's house & other individuals homes & belongings but NOT corporations?
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