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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:32 PM
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Take a look around you people
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 06:33 PM by TwixVoy
Take a long look around you people. The corruption, fraud, and thievery is not just in business. It permeates our society at all levels. We teach it to our children as the way to succeed. The example our government, businesses, and communities show us is exactly where we are and where we are headed. Apparently the things I was taught as a child are useless and without merit in the world of today.

I am beginning to wonder if I should have used all my efforts in life to screw the rest of you. To look for and use the "loopholes" and other means to advance my agendas. Instead I spent my time thinking about those who would be hurt if I lived only for myself. Instead I read the thoughts of those who, more often than not, put themselves second for the common good of all. Names that are listed on our constitution. These men and women could have just as easily used their positions of power to make themselves even more powerful and wealthy. Instead they CHOSE to give the rest of us, common people, the power to have a life and decide what that life would entail. And we the common man that they gave so much for have thrown it all away because it is easier to point the finger of blame at someone else and live by terms that just SUCK, than it is to, simply put, DO THE RIGHT THING, and stay out of the rest of our lives if we are not DIRECTLY injuring our neighbors or society.

This is half the reason I believe we aren't going to make it out of this down turn. Not only are we financially screwed, but the corrupt bastards run business/government/media at all levels.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:36 PM
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1. How do we teach it? In class? By the parents? OR
by the news, media, and peer influence?
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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:38 PM
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2. Are you a fool?
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 06:41 PM by TwixVoy
Have you never observed HOW these CEOs/executives GOT in to positions of power and WHY they have screwed the country over to make a buck? How many of these scum bags are worth anything by any ethical standard? Can you name me a CEO who is? What kind of message does it send to society about the way to get to the top? And if we as a society truly do not accept it as a way to advance in society, why are there not riots in the streets among the common folk?

Shit, look at a freaking Governor SELLING a freaking Senate seat and being in true DISBELIEF anyone is calling him on it because he is dumb founded anyone would be surprised about "Business as usual". Just how many back room deals do you think DO get reported on your TV?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:47 PM
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8. I think you need to review the history of Chicago politics
Selling a seat isn't a surprise -- it's a TRADITION.

Anyone who is acting surprised about back room deals ANYWHERE in this country has had to have been in a coma. In the South it's called *good ole boy politics*, and I'm sure there are regional names for this same sort of skullduggery everywhere.

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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:48 PM
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9. Yup
Thanks for making my point.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:19 AM
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15. I understand John McMeel, CEO of Universal Press Syndicate
may be a saint.

If that's not too much of a non-sequitur.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:41 PM
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3. Unawful acts, in a perfect world, would be punished, starting with the Bush
Admin. They weren't. Bad acts should have consequences but our leaders look the other way for whatever reason(s) that is, and the perps go unpunished. No examples set here, no role models whatsoever. Good post TwixVoy..
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:45 PM
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6. just what I posted the other nite
in my rant. We are made to play by the rules, but no one in authority does anymore. How do you reconcile that ? I can't seem to. Can you help me do so. That is very sincere cause I can't do it any longer.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:55 AM
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19. Are you (and the other posters who expressed ...
... similar sentiments) very young, or do you really not remember that, before bush, there were plenty of corrupt politicians who "got away with it". There is a rather long history of corruption in this country (and elsewhere). Things were, arguably, much worse a hundred years ago.
I'm all for holding guilty parties responsible, but let's not pretend that we, as a country, have not been in this position many times before.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:41 PM
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4. Hear, hear. k/r
And then everybody unconsciously agrees to not see it, or lie about it.

"It's just like that."

The useless answer to dozens of innocent childhood questions.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:44 PM
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5. You're right. We're screwn.
Let's move to Mexico and drink tequila.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:45 PM
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7. Exactly and yet Some Like It That Way
a lot of unbalanced folks make it to the top because they have no ability to feel any guilt, regarding the way they got there.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:51 PM
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10. You are right, but many folks rather not see it
I got screwed

By people who profited from my work and efforts

these days I don't trust people ANYWHERE...and I'm rather cynical

But we have been here before... in these same deep straits...
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:53 PM
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11. Best expressed, IMO, in Syriana.
This quote, which sums up the sick neocon/far right ideology perfectly, comes to mind:

"Corruption? Corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations. That's Milton Friedman. He got a goddamn Nobel Prize. We have laws against it precisely so we can get away with it. Corruption is our protection. Corruption keeps us safe and warm. Corruption is why you and I are prancing around in here instead of fighting over scraps of meat out in the streets. Corruption is why we win."

"Danny Dalton"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apM0d3M-sps
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:46 PM
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12. I give you a recommend,
Just don't tell anyone, its a secret.:hangover:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:55 AM
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13. And the myths persist our M$M channels
:argh:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:05 AM
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14. i agree. i said we are having a breakdown in all of our society and a poster was clueless
or purposely made himself clueless because it did not meet his agenda.

this is not a small thing our nation is facing. serious business.

i solely put the bushco as responsible. we couldnt have done it without them. too many, too many climbed on board. and he helped and allowed the corporations to do it. every fabric of our society is now hurting

and it starts with each one of us....
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:24 AM
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16. The failure of civilization can be detected by the gap between public and private morality.
The wider the gap, the nearer the civilization to final dissolution

- Frank Herbert "The White Plague"
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justaregularperson Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:42 AM
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17. It is actually a worldwide change. We are seeing the values of darwinian capitalism overtake
the common man as well. Previously this kind of greed ethic was rejected by many of the common people. but we have been heavily propagandized and our marketing society has capitalized and rewarded anti-social behavior to the extreme.

Where I work most of my co-workers could care less about those that get laid off or end up on the street, as long as it isn't them everything is "just life". Our values are at an all time low.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:38 AM
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18. Do you really believe it was sane of them ...
to give common people the power to do the right thing?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 11:01 AM
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20. You wrote...
I am beginning to wonder if I should have used all my efforts in life to screw the rest of you. To look for and use the "loopholes" and other means to advance my agendas.


And I disagree because anyone who doesn't have a sociopathic personality cannot actually do something like that.

Honestly, it takes a real sick person...one who truly doesn't care about anything or anyone other than him/herself.

It's not something that you can just decide to do...because your conscience will always jump up to bite you in the ass.... :7

So, call me naive...call me a hopeless fool...but I do believe that there are still enough honest, caring people in this world to counterbalance the sick bastards who are out to screw over anyone they can, without conscience.

Don't give in to the bastards! Don't let them get you down!

I don't believe corruption will triumph...

:)

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