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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:26 PM
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The New Attorney General Rules
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-attorney-general-rules-by-dday.html


The New Attorney General Rules

by dday


According to Jon Kyl, and I would imagine a substantial portion of the right, you cannot become Attorney General unless you unequivocally support torturing human beings.

KYL: I think Eric Holder will have some problems. He has not been able to stand up to his bosses in the past, President Clinton when he wanted to do pardons that I think Holder must have realized were big mistakes but he facilitated. And he’s also made some very unfortunate statements about our interrogation of prisoners, terrorists, and other things that lead me to believe that he is not going to be supportive of the Patriot Act, the FISA law, and others. And if he can’t be supportive of those laws, then he shouldn’t be Attorney General.


Got that? If you cannot be trusted to violate federal and international law, you cannot be allowed to become the nation's top law enforcement official. This is the looking-glass view of the world on the right.

And it infects the discourse. I would argue the reason for Obama's stilted rhetoric and the general reticence, outside of John Conyers, to prosecute the war crimes of the torture regime is that nobody in the establishment ever really pushed back in a coordinated fashion on the mainstreaming of torture, that allows for this kind of a statement by Kyl, which would have been almost nonsensical a few years ago. The Village got infected with war fever, goosed by the right, and they are only now coming out of it. And so Obama awkwardly tiptoes around ending torture because there are non-trivial political consequences for doing so. That's a very sad commentary on this country, but it's true.

Once we started having a debate in this country about torture, we made it tacitly acceptable. That was the original sin.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:32 PM
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1. Good take on us even dialoging with crazy!
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 09:33 PM by midnight
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:41 PM
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2. If you cannot be trusted to violate federal and international law
you can't be in charge of it..


got it.
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thefirebirdhimself Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:42 PM
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3. Maybe I'm not drunk enough yet...
But how is "not supporting the Patriot Act, the FISA law, and others" a bad thing? Also, why would Holder be under obligation to support Bush's policies in an Obama administration? Bush, after all, is not going to be his boss. Obama is. Am I missing something here?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 10:41 PM
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4. Keep drinking, you're fine.
You're missing the fact that Kyl is a dipshit.

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 12:24 AM
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5. That last line wraps the issue up in a nutshell.

Once we started having a debate in this country about torture, we made it tacitly acceptable. That was the original sin.

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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 01:17 AM
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6. Hell, we made it *openly* acceptable, at least to some people.
I hope to someday not be ashamed (at least in part) of my country.

I was just listening to a piece of an MLK speech on the radio that basically said what Rev. Wright said, just in a less inflammatory/sound bite way.

When we do bad, we should say so and try to fix it.
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