Calling PE OBAMA...Please see what you can do to rid our Nation from Taser Guns

It seemed like a good idea....but unintended consequences has emerged to reveal a sorid misuse resulting in too many fatalities..

The Police, and I love um, used to work with them as a Fire Captain, are known to have a percentage not really mentally "there". Posing as normal...they exist.

If we count the fatalities of the past 12 months....them deaths are not a couple...,more like dozens...

Its time to recall them gizmos....humans are not cows....

They can get by with .357 Magnums just like they did 30 years ago.

other "non-lethal" methods of restraint. Nobody ever died from those.

Believe it or not, lawyers (and other people) have even blamed pepper spray for some deaths.

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without having to do any work.

than from police firearms, since police depts started using them. This is a very serious problem that needs addressing immediately.

It's kind of like what Mark Twain used to say, "There are lies, damn lies - and statistics."

If you go by Amnesty International's numbers, there are more than 20 "deaths", but you can't just go by the numbers as they have the potential to be very misleading.

The numbers they use include instances where people died and the ME said the taser "couldn't be ruled out". In other words, the ME is saying, "The guy died after a taser was used on him and we don't know if the taser killed him or the half-pound of PCP he injected into his nutsack with a turkey baster."

Now if you go by the numbers where the ME said death was a result of a taser, it goes down to just about nil. Considering tasers are used hundreds of thousands of times each year, that ain't too bad and then if you take into consideration that many people would almost certainly suffer considerably more injuries and possibly death if other more physical methods of restraint were used, the issue becomes a lot more complicated.

The fact is police have to deal with batshit crazy people routinely (many of which have done enough drugs to kill a mature water buffalo). It's inevitable that some are going to die one way or another with or without police intervention even if nothing but the best techniques and tools are used. Simply saying "people die, tasers bad" is almost always bullshit post hoc nonsense.

Now that's not to say there aren't stupid cops out there doing stupid things, but when you consider in many places cops are paid shit and given almost no training, it's a small wonder there aren't far more problems.

:beer:

WE make and sell all sorts of items to kill of destroy. This is what we do here. But hell no we don't make much else.

teasers are seeming to be just as bad as guns. Too many deaths as the results of teasers they should be banned.

in the meantime....since we got 9 days till action time....some music

don't worry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnvSQuv-H4

what gives, aren't cops everywhere scared when they teaser someone they might die if not they should be because so many die.

Those things got thousands of volts in them

EDIT: Possibly you're not familiar with the other toys our domestic terrorists are just pining away for. Digby is the go-to source for this:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/taser-update-by-digby-just-little-note.html

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/12/114845/76/236/659815

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=hullabaloo+digby+taser&btnG=Search

after walking across the carpet on a dry day.

The actual voltage from a Taser when applied to a human body will drop from around 50kV (open circuit) to 6kV or less. It is the 19 pulses per second of current that causes the neuromuscular system to effectively shut down.

And the amps are measured in fractions.

...first minute, Jan. 20, 2009 before all that silly stuff about the economy, climate change, torture, the various wars in the mid-East and Central Asia, energy, all that stuff...

Thank God Obama has us to set his priorities.

Given the Fatalities thus far....Damnnn

It should be treated as deadly force EVERY time it is used. Given the fact that I doubt it will be outlawed, I would like the same accountability utilized as they do with firearms.

I've always been anti-TASER...however, I'm much more jaded now and don't believe they will be taken off of the market if someone is making money on them.:(

I'm mean, what's up with *THAT*?

:rofl:

assuming the guilty BART officer isn't lying :eyes: , he mistook his (real) gun for his other penis extension Taser. If the Taser had a completely different trigger mechanism, maybe one where you pull backwards with two fingers, that wouldn't have happened.

effect?

No word after 5 days...das a long time....

If this is brought up in court....its aloha for the manufacturer and for them Police Department....

lie cheat or steal...but we'd soon run out of batteries.

Prolly just a "Few Bad Apples"...like Dick, George and Don...and Adolf and Heinrich, and Ernst and Reinhardt...