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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:01 PM Original message |
Has It Really Just Been Hippies vs. The Establishment? |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, the crew cut kids are in battle with the long hairs |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
105. And if you think both good and bad came out of the 60's |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. ...you're a realist**nm |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #105 |
153. I would be interested to read what you think the bad was that came from the sixties. |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Interesting take. Even at 53, my wife and I feel like hippies that our establishment neighbors |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. And Freedom. Hippies are all about Freedom, even if somewhat imperfectly so. |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. YES! Thanks so much for that addition to my list! |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. Bush admitted as much in an old interview from 2000. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Only the eldest boomers got to be hippies |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Agreed. Born in 61, so technically a boomer |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
118. I agree with your parameters... |
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Greybnk48 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
119. You're a "teeny bopper" like my little bro. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. "You guys were the inventors of air guitar!" .... Wrong. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
120. Exactly! |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #120 |
149. Hey, I Resent That |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. Oops |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #149 |
179. 56 here too and I agree. nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
165. You still do, since the boomer category is just demographic |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Excuse me? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Read the WHOLE post. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. I did. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. In all normal distributions, there are always out-lyers and I believe we're talking about |
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justaregularperson (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
192. This is all stereotyping. Boomers led the Reagan "revolution |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Thanks. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. As a "first-wave" hippie, I agree with that totally. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
86. No, it's a completely different demographic |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
142. As a 61 year old, I agree with you - we experienced the beginning of change |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #142 |
188. Many young 20 and 30 somethings... have never known anything but prosperity... |
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justaregularperson (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 03:49 AM Response to Reply #188 |
193. Not sure what world you are living in... I think they have not seen real prosperity |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
92. Born in 49 and agree with you completely. . . n/t |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
99. Great post. Another born in '49 who agrees with you completely. (nt) |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
127. The 60s were well over by 1980, when someone born in 1956 was 24. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #127 |
134. Actually, that first cohort was apolitical |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. In 1980, voters 30-44 (born 1936-1950) were 31% of total turnout. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #136 |
144. That's the sad truth. The republiks had the middle aged and older crowd firmly |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #136 |
152. It's unfortunate they started in 1936 |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #152 |
167. there's probably a difference if you go 46-50, or if you looked at people |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #134 |
157. Very true. I've been an anomaly among my own old hippie peers in that I've always voted. |
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justaregularperson (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 03:59 AM Response to Reply #127 |
194. You got it right. It was the "Hippie generations" selloffs that created the Reagan revolution |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
140. I so disagree that those |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #140 |
154. Had you read the whole post |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
184. I tend to believe younger boomers and older boomers have far more in common as a whole |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama still thinks he can negotiate with authoritarians. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Given that his opening negotiating position is "I won," I think he'll do okay. :D nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Throwing your weight around may be satisfying at some level |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
74. "It's just another day in the psychodrama." Beautiful! Well said! (nt) |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. I would call it more authoritarian versus anti-authoritarian. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. You're mistaken about Felt |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. far out! |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. i haven't met any hippies that turned rr |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. No, it hasn't. If Hippies had ever had anything like power, how could "we" have |
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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I must respectfully disagree. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Who in the world do you think kept liberal values alive after they killed our leaders? |
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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I stand corrected. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I'm sorry to be so strident. But you have to remember or to imagine |
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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Agreed. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. dob = '66? So, you weren't there. Sheer numbers? You are going to have to establish how many |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. i was there- the fall of '66, right near halloween |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
76. The idea made manifest that it is good to figure out what you own thing is! Wow! |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Kent State took care of "direct" challenges. n/t |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. Excuse me, but we've ALWAYS been the baby boomers |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
85. Right. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
93. the "me" -ers are the "let's get physical" crowd.. they turned inward. . n/t |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
121. That term was used in the '50s. I remember it as a kid. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
126. not so |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
128. "baby boom" = coined in the 40s. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Funny how people concerned with Social Justice got lumped together |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Or to Marin. Or to Canada. Or, to Hollywood or Silicon Valley. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. Some of us came to Alaska. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Perhaps That Might Explain |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
171. Obama has never shown a really good historical appreciation for the |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. Hippies , their kids and grand kids coming of age soon |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
66. & i got some fine grandkids |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. The "Me" generation was the one of Reagan |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Bingo. |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:24 PM Original message |
Here's the kicker for me. What are these establishment types so afraid of? And - |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. too easy. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. In order for younger people to really understand this, they would have to go through |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
49. their trauma was 9-11 |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. The Civil Rights Movement inspired Hippies. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. that's right |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
84. The things he said in his inaugural address about "old things" are clues to his mind on the topics |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. what gives me optimism |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Yes!! Thanks for reminding me not to take that for granted. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #96 |
143. a window of great potential |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Where were you, patrice? My family was all immigrants from Central America |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
73. The Kansas City area. I saw The Beatles at Arrowhead stadium and felt the world change, in 1964. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #73 |
129. Don't forget Kahlil Gibran, the Little Prince, and Jonathon Livingston Seagull ... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
135. Patrice, what a long strange trip it has been. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Stirling Newbury Just Wrote a HUGE Essay On This, Sort of |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. Bingo! "Obama's rule will be about coaxing us past any remaining desire to thwart the machine." |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
81. You can't build a new movement by tearing down an existing one. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. LOL... PLEASE |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Being radical doesn't mean I have to agree with poorly thought out opinions. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #81 |
146. ROTFLMAO! |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #146 |
151. It Happens Often Enough |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #151 |
178. You respond to this |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #178 |
199. Great. So Maybe |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #146 |
177. delete |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 08:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
141. Thank you for this. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
147. This is really good, thank you. n/t |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
162. That is a painful death, the death of that desire to thwart the machine. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
197. Newberry doesn't know what he's talking about |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. Nonsense. Obama isn't post-anything, he's just a new brand of establishment. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Obama is a Boomer; hippies are the Establishment; corporate government continues unabated |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
71. I don't get your "hippies are the Establishment", in fact, I totally disagree. Sorry. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. I agree with you and you are making my point |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
172. "Unfortunately for many and in DU discussions "Hippies and Boomers" ARE "interchangeable terms." |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
106. Time to come out of hiding. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. I'm not hiding. I've been here since 2001 getting regularly derided for being a "far leftist". |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. I purposefully worded my post |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Yes, but I can only answer for myself as an individual. I can't answer for anyone else. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. these are potshots passing like ships in the night |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Scarletwoman wrote: |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. yer smart and aksing the right questions but aren't listening to the answers |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #123 |
145. you are on the money! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #145 |
168. unfortunately |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #123 |
176. I think you're projecting. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
125. Mmmm. Pot. |
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Ani Yun Wiya (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #106 |
181. I don't hide, nor am I afraid to say things. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. No. |
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Ani Yun Wiya (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #182 |
186. So... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #186 |
189. whose idea of equality? |
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Ani Yun Wiya (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:20 AM Response to Reply #189 |
196. An explanation of my viewpoint. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #196 |
200. The goals you mentioned can be achieved |
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Ani Yun Wiya (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-29-09 05:26 AM Response to Reply #200 |
202. In my first response to you I said... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #71 |
137. The hippies are responsible for the environmental |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #71 |
139. I love you, scarletwoman! You say true words. nt |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #139 |
158. Thank you! I appreciate the love! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
138. "hippies are the Establishment" No way! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Obama is a Boomer; hippies are the Establishment; corporate government continues unabated |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I'll grant that some Hippies are/were establishment anti-Establishment, in that |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. True, and this obituary of boomers in politics is more |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. we weren't at battle with our own generation, it was |
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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. But that doesn't explain what's happened since. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. It does in a way. The politicans that weren't interested in being martyrs |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. the hippies were concentrated in certain geographic areas |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. Right, grannie! Some people look at Bill and think bad thoughts about Hippies. |
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Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. No there were battles with our own generation as well. |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. i have to say that is true also |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
88. This was not a unique experience and it will happen again. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
68. A majority of young voters supported Nixon over McGovern. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
48. we will be dead soon |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. The repudiation of authoritarian control will never die. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. well said |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. he understands the power is derived from the people |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
72. Bingo! Well said. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
77. Whoa. "The mirror image of the truth is more difficult to detect as a lie. It has a familiar shape." |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
80. "The mirror image of the truth . . . " Excellent! Excellent! nt |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. I think this is a simplistic retelling of things |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Spot on. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #52 |
131. It's an old technique. Create two black & white "sides" & encourage people to identify with one. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. there`s is so much bullshit in this article |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
64. I blame Gen X, not the boomers, for this mess. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. haha |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
112. Um I'm Gen X and I was 11 years old in 1980 |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
65. Your repeated use of the malapropism "Me Generation" exposes your intent, among other things. n/t |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
69. The counter-culture was co-opted by "Up With People". Hey, kids-you can be "hippie-lite" |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
160. You know, this is such an excellent observation, it deserves some acknowledgement. |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #160 |
170. in 8th grade we were reading "Do It!" and "Autobiography o Malcolm X" and |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. Wow, sounds quite a bit different than my Catholic school days in the 50s! |
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obiwan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
70. I live on $1400 a month... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. I find boomer activists the most divisive and difficult to work with. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
166. If 50s "conservatism" destroyed the idea of collective action |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #166 |
174. Those movement were largely lead |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #174 |
187. Those movements would have been impossible without boomers. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 03:08 AM Response to Reply #187 |
190. As I wrote |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
79. Me generation? |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
82. I think its been more working class vs. upper class more than hippies vs. establishment. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Yep. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
163. It really took a turn for the worst under W. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
89. Misleading BS: Obama is shifting from "Greed Is Good" era selfishness, w/o challenging Reaganism |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Exactly. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #97 |
110. It was the boomers who elected Reagan. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. It was 51% of 37% of eligble voters that elected Reagan -- what's that, about 21%? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #115 |
124. you sure? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #124 |
132. you just confirmed it |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Given a chance, it will be up to us to make the real economic changes. nt |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. patrice, I hear you but all the fools that went along with the BS are responsible for this mess |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. I know I'm looking for a new way of getting along and there are a BUNCH of boomers who just lost |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. all these years they told us, "people will care when it affects them" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #100 |
133. heh - some of the folks currently gung ho for obama were gung ho |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #89 |
183. Is that a bad thing? |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
94. Summer of '69 ringing in here |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
101. Your OP has inspired a great thread. The article is bullshit, however, which I think you've been |
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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Oh, I hear you |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. "the Ruling Class and their faithful courtiers in the media, have their own narrative" infotainment |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #117 |
130. great quote. too true. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #117 |
150. From one of the most eloquent progenitors of the "Boomers". |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
104. I was born at the end of 1957, and I was by no means a hippie. The |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
148. i read this all last night & again this am. this is why i love du |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #148 |
155. I just re-read this thread all the through as well, and came to your post at the end. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
159. "The bums lost Mr. Lebowski! The bums lost!!!111" |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Dude!!!! |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Is this uh... uh... what day is this? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #164 |
175. Are you employed, sir? |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #159 |
185. Your revolution is over. Condolences... |
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Still Sensible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
169. It's a lot more complicated |
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Ani Yun Wiya (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #169 |
180. Naw it's simple. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 03:26 AM Response to Original message |
191. now there's an explanation! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:28 AM Response to Original message |
195. Re the "post-partisan" horseshit |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #195 |
198. When Obama keeps reaching out |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-28-09 04:46 AM Response to Reply #198 |
201. As long as he doesn't get his hopes up that they will cooperate |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-29-09 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
203. This thread has been a treat to read! Thank you all! |
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